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Jesus had long hair, yet why does the bible contradict men with long hair?

Corinthians 11:14
Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.


Why does Jesus get long hair, but all other men are disgraced.

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2 points

Uhhh because the bible is a mish mash of different literature with little cross reference. Even though at 384 Ad they decided the bible was only going to be made up out of 4 of about 400 different scrolls going around in Rome at the time (supposedly all being the true word of the lord) they couldnt make those 4 out of 400 books congruent with each other.

Jesus never existed. The writings and culture of Yoshua ("the liberator" in Aramaic) was spawned by the use of psychotropic drugs. In other words "jesus was a mushroom"

3 points

Jesus never existed. The writings and culture of Yoshua ("the liberator" in Aramaic) was spawned by the use of psychotropic drugs. In other words "jesus was a mushroom"

I think "Jesus was a mushroom" should be a new bumper sticker.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

I dare you to drive through the bible belt with that sticker :)

If you are interested then take a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Allegro

John Allegro was a world renowned Aramaic scholar, and when the Dead sea scrolls where discovered, he was one of the few who was hired to examine them. After he came out with his ideas about how the early "Christians" where into psychedelic rituals he got fired and chastized by other religious "scholars"

I have to mention that some form of psychedelic drugs have been involved in the majority of religions known to anthropologist. (I wonder why:)

If we want to think that "jesus" was a psychedelic mushroom or not - I have to say: it is a much more likely explenation for this literature than that there actually was a guy who walked on water and healed the ill - Especially since there is no evidence or any writings that are written before about 100 Ad that mention Jesus. Given how much impact he is said to have had in the bible (reaching to the highest of authority´s that are supposed to have had him killed) It is strange that there is no mention of him in that day literature. To make a comparison, there is a bunch of literature written at the time Gautama Buddah lived about him and he live about 500 years before Christ, and wasnt deep into politics like Jesus. (history is usually written around political acts)

I do think that that Disney gives a better portrayal of the old fairy tales (and we all know that the Beast died in the end of the real Beauty and the beast.) then the bible as we know it today gives of the old tales of Yoshua.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

I think that your bumper sticker should be "I am really trying to go to Hell."

Side: Biblical Contradiction
Mysaviour Disputed
1 point

How dare you insult God that way, you senseless pig?

If you don't know anything about the Bible, just keep your mouth shut.

There is no proof that Jesus had long hair. It was just seen in pictures. Maybe he had short hair.

Do not speak like you know every thing in the world.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
PungSviti(552) Disputed
1 point

"How dare you insult unicorns" moron

I can´t insult a fictional being

"If you don't know anything about the Bible, just keep your mouth shut." good thing I know a thing or two, or I would have to shut up because a mentally handicaped person told me to

"There is no proof that Jesus had long hair. It was just seen in pictures. Maybe he had short hair."

There is no more proof he existed either - no more proof than the proof for Robin hood´s existence - so Fuck Robin Hood (see how I didn´t insult Robin Hood - Since he is a fictional chracter you moron

Side: Biblical Contradiction
2 points

lol, wow you found a completely senseless quote from the Bible that must have taken all of 30 seconds.

I love that it's "the nature of things" that teaches us. What nature? Like babies are going around discriminating against long-haired men. It's not natural it's taught - by things like the Bible.

Holy crap I hate that freakin' book sometimes. For every 1 good lesson there's 18 pieces of bs like this.

Side: jesus crucified for hair not sins

I agree. the bible is full of crap. Matter of fact, the entire book is a load of crap.

Side: jesus crucified for hair not sins
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
2 points

When it is judgment day and you stand before God and he asks you why did you say my Word is a load of crap what are you going to say.

Side: jesus crucified for hair not sins
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

That book is God's Word and when you are standing before God on the Day of Judgement you are going to wish that you read and believed in "that book."

Side: Biblical Contradiction
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

I've read it many times, and I transferred from Gonzaga University with 18 credits in religious studies. Is there something specific you want to discuss, or are you just speaking in tongues again?

Side: jesus crucified for hair not sins
PungSviti(552) Disputed
1 point

I love how contradictory it is to think of oneself as Christian (forgiving and kind) one minute and the next be threatening the equivalent to disembowelment if someone doesn't agree with you.

I think one of the best evidence of the bible really being a political PR scare tactic device is how God is described as sort of an unpredictable alcoholic tyrant "that loves you" in it. This is exactly how alcoholics get control over households: by issuing out love and hate so unpredictably that other people in the house get to be immobile with stress over what is going to happen next.

Side: jesus crucified for hair not sins
aveskde(1935) Disputed
0 points

That book is God's Word and when you are standing before God on the Day of Judgement you are going to wish that you read and believed in "that book."

It's because we've read that book that we don't believe it. It's easy to believe something when you know nothing about it.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

Holy crap I hate that freakin' book sometimes. For every 1 good lesson there's 18 pieces of bs like this.

Maybe if people read their bible they'd realise this and we wouldn't have the current war with fundamentalists.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
Feolaney Disputed
1 point

Well considering that this is an argument pertaining to something written in the Bible, arguing the logistics surrounding the given premises would help make you seem less biased against something you probably don't have a lot of experience with, (other than through severely blown out of proportion pro/anti posts in a forum).

If anyone would have cared to read the scripture themselves and maybe a verse or two further they would have found that it says :

16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

The books of Corinthians in the Bible are actually letters written by Paul to the people of Corinth, Greece. From the context this isn't really a commandment other than an observational suggestion made by one of the Apostles of Jesus Christ. According the the authority he held and would currently hold assuming the text is accurate, Paul would be able to receive revelation from God, every word from His mouth being those that would need following, but as was further stated by Paul, His church has no custom.

Furthermore the first paintings of Christ were those of the Italians, and at that time the style that was most impressed on their society was that of long hair.

As to whether Christ had long hair or not, given the complete lack of scriptural enlightenment on this matter other than a suggestion made by one of his Apostles, I would say that we should be thankful that our fate doesn't lie with the knowledge of this non-pertinent to salvation question.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

The assumption seems consistent; the religious believe those who do not believe must believe so from a lack of knowledge about the various superstitions of whichever particular religion they are representing.

In fact though I find the opposite to be true. Atheists being less than 20% of the population, and the religious by percentage reproducing in greater numbers than atheists, at the same time the number of atheists increasing necessarily means that most atheists were once religious.

Myself included, by no choice of my own, indoctrination the culprit in my case.

That you are aware that Corinthians is a series of letters in no way diminishes my case that the stance that any god would judge man so harshly is tyrannical. And that that only logical conclusion when one removes themselves from the religion itself, which can be arrived at based on the various silly posts I've replied to, is that this christian god is not good at all, quite evil.

If your argument is that this god has been misrepresented I respect your stance and wish you'd dispute with those misrepresenting you god instead of quoting Bible minutia to me that I am both aware of and indifferent about.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
2 points

What makes you think Jesus had long hair, the pictures that man thought up ?

I'm almost sure that during the time he spent travling fram place to place , he was well groomed . He is a King , ya know .

Though , after he was imprisoned , more than likely , there wouldn't have been anybody available to trim his hair or even bath him .

Do you see what I am getting at ?

Everything that he needed was made available to him .

Side: Hypothetically not Theoretically
1 point

Just do what you're told.

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Side: Hypothetically not Theoretically

Who says that Jesus had long hair?

I must say that I thought this to be a Hadrian debate.

Side: Hypothetically not Theoretically
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Who says that Jesus had long hair?

I must say that I thought this to be a Hadrian debate.

I think we're all just under the impression that he had long hair because of his depiction in culture. But if you know where this comes from, please illuminate it for us.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
2 points

According to the Bible Sampson had long hair - yet I recall nothing of him being chastised.

I know not where the belief of Christ having long hair began.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

The most likely answer is simply that Jesus contradicts the bible. It's not surprising since he wasn't the son of god, but just a man, if he existed.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

Jesus is the Son of God that is what he was saying on earth put people were ignorant and still are would not listen to him.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Jesus is the Son of God that is what he was saying on earth put people were ignorant and still are would not listen to him.

Jesus can't be the son of god because he was too feeble, and more importantly, there is no god.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

How do you know that Jesus had long hair? --------------------------

Side: Biblical Contradiction
PungSviti(552) Disputed
1 point

Well the same people you bealive about the bible portray him with long hair.

But I dont think he had long or short hair because I think it is more likely that Robin hood existed (exactly like he is described in the story´s ) than that Jesus existed.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

Tell me how did they portray him with long hair?????????????????

Side: Biblical Contradiction
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

Wow. I Think It Is More Likely THat Robin Hood Existed (exactly like he is described in the story's) Then Jesus Existed. Listen to yourself one of these days.

Side: Biblical Contradiction

My children what am I going to do with you? You fight amongst yourselves, for what? My son had mid length not long hair. Long hair is down to the waist. There is no contradictions in my words, only disbelievers.

Side: Jesus had mid-length not long hair
1 point

well, Jesus's hair was not long... like, down to his shoulders. He had a "hair of wool", so if he really did grow it out it would have been more like a Jew fro.

Side: Jew Fro
1 point

What about the story of Samson? He was told never to cut his hair.

Side: Jew Fro
1 point

Haha! I almost said something about Samson. x)

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Side: Jew Fro
1 point

Yeah, that doesn't make sense, does it? haha. At first I was going to say that the Bible never actually says Jesus had long hair, but I heard just now that some historical documents may say that. If that's the case, then that does seem to be a contradiction. But you should probably verify that Jesus actually did have long hair, because I don't have a historical source, and the Bible never actually says his hair was long.

As far as I understand, this verse has to do with the culture of the New Testament times. And I think I've read "nature" translated as "your natures", which I suppose would mean that the culture of that time would support this whole hair rule.

See, from what I can gather(Although I have read this passage a while back, I looked it up on Biblegateway so I could know what I was talking about), this passage is establishing a role of woman as being somewhat under man, which of course I cannot agree with. It doesn't make woman a totally useless entity, since it goes on to say that neither sex is independent of the other, and that man comes from woman now, just as woman came from man(in the creation story). But it does still seem like this and other passages in the Bible say that woman is to be submitted to man, although not to the extent that many people have taken it. I'm not saying I agree with the amount of misogyny in there of course, just that the NT does seem to acknowledge that women are people, even if they are considered people who are to be under the authority of men. Bottom line: This passage, as far as I can tell, is one of several that shows misogyny in the Bible, but it should be acknowledged that the NT is not AS misogynistic as it has been taken to be. Sorry, that was kind of a little feminist tangent. ;]

Side: Ask someone who knows more than me
1 point

It never says Jesus had long hair. Its just something people came up with

Side: Ask someone who knows more than me
1 point

Ridiculous argument particularly if your trying to use it to say the Bible is a " bad book." Also I just looked it up it does not say that the churches had such a practice rather that they had no such practice, meaning that it matters not.

Side: Ask someone who knows more than me
1 point

Hahaha you honestly are putting this on a debate site? Samson had long hair, it never "contradicts" men with long hair.

Side: Ask someone who knows more than me
1 point

The bible's full of contradictions and lies, this is just one of the more minor ones. Still though, gave me a chuckle.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

Let me just say this the bible is not full of crap neither is it fictional humans believe that because we are sinners. The bible is 100% true therefore It cannot contradict itself. The reason you people think the bible contradicts its self is because you have never thoroughly studied it. The bible is like a complex puzzle when put together becomes clear.

Now with the case of Jesus having long hair That cannot be proven we don't know what kind of hair he had. Even if his hair went up to his shoulders the bible does not specify how long "short" is. People just cut it really short to be safe "better to be safe than sorry". of course there is also common sense "we cant just say that hair going down to our hips is short".

Now Samsung of course is an exception to this rule since its his covenant with god. To put it simply god and Samsung's mother made a deal in which if god gave her a son (With superhuman strength) then he couldn't have his hair cut. for example its like with privateers they were special pirates who were authorized by a government by letters of marque to attack and plunder foreign shipping during wartime.

I one of the comments I believe there was a misguided person who wrote that Jesus was a feeble man. That is not biblical it comes from satanism. Yes Jesus was poor but not feeble, normal. how dare you say that about the son of god well to be exact he is god, part of god since god is made up of three entities the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

Lastly the guy that compares the bible to a fairytale here is evidence and prophecies that have come true that proves the bible exists. Go here: http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/

here is the order I recommend you follow:

1)science section (especially if you believe in evolution)

2)total onslaught

3)rekindling the reformation

if you choose to watch the videos or not its not my problem. but I do not like when someone judges something without having the facts. haven't you ever heard the saying "never judge a book by its cover" and that goes to you people who say that they will go to hell. We have no right of judging them either since we are all sinners.

Also THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELL that is something the roman catholic church made up. They mainly got that from greek mythology hades and from misinterpreting some parts of the bible.

once you die you die and when Christ comes he will revive all those who died and judge everyone dead and alive. there also is no afterlife or reincarnation that is all spiritism. as the saying goes "dead men tell no tales". and if you are asking "what about ghosts" and "my dead grandma who talked to me last weekend" they are all just demons masquerading as people we know. hello there are angels and demons in another dimension that we cannot see but they can see us and know everything we have done. don't forget satan is the master of deception.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

Where in the bible does it say that Jesus had long hair? If there is a passage or some hint to it, I've never seen it. Care to show me the passage?

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

The image of Jesus we know was just Michelangelo's depiction of him.

Side: Biblical Contradiction
1 point

"But their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened" Tell me, When you bash the Scripture and those whom follow it, wouldn't the quote above apply to you?

Side: Biblical Contradiction