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Pro: Jesus is our savior Con: Jesus was not our savior
Debate Score:73
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Jesus is our savior

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Pro: Jesus is our savior

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Con: Jesus was not our savior

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First off, Jesus said when he died a Earthquake would happen and destroy the temple. Their is evidence from multiple sources that proved that happened when he died. Also, he said he would rise from the tomb on the third day. Again, this happened.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
excon(18261) Disputed
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he said he would rise from the tomb on the third day. Again, this happened.

Hello P:

Look, I'd LIKE to believe that my Jewish lanzman, Jesus Christ rose from the dead.. But, the people who wrote it down so you'd believe it, weren't there.. They were only writing down stories and legend.. And, of course, the writers NEVER said anything bad about Jesus. Kinda like right wingers today won't write anything bad about Donald Trump.

Can you imagine a future religion based on grabbing pussy???

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Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior
Phantom9(9) Disputed
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Then Explain the Temple getting destroyed by the Earthquake when Jesus died, ALso, Jesu predicted it.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Developing(494) Disputed
2 points

Excon, Donald Trumo has said improper "words". He also made some improper hiring choices (ex; Jeff Sessions). I blame the latter on him not being a career politician and therefore being backstabbed. So there is some criticism.

Moving past that, Donald Trump brought the USA record low employment rates, a secured southern border, no new wars and honored Constitutional Rights. The reality is that Donald Trump was the best president in our lifetime. That is why the psychopathic leftoids and weak RINO's despised Trump. Because he put America FIRST.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
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When Jesus spoke of the temple being torn down and being rebuilt within 3 days, He meant His body being crucified and Him returning by God's power, giving Him resurrection of life. While the temple building itself, yeah, it was torn down afterwards, due to a natural disaster aka the earthquake because the Jewish Pharisee had allowed people to sell animals etc on holy worshiping grounds. Jesus wasn't happy and called them out on their hypocrisy plus the flipping tables scene. The earth quake happened because it was meant to show God's presence. The earthquake is what caused the collapse of the temple. Further more, there is archeological evidence that point towards the biblical locations of biblical events that are historically real.

Btw, Trump spoke about all of us needing Jesus. Some say he changes his stories alot and everybody makes mistakes. Nobody is perfect. I agree Trump was the best president, however, I don't believe that this makes him perfect to be clear because again, nobody is except God and Jesus. I also don't agree about the accusations democrats and such have thrown onto Trump so far, turning many against him. Slander and lies from democrats etc only prove my point about "nobody is perfect" is true. Only Jesus was perfect when He was sent by God the Father to save us from the sins of the world.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
2 points

Well, where is he?

If Jesus was the Managing Director of '' INTERNATIONAL RESCUE'' he would be in court charged with dereliction of duty, criminal negligence and corporate manslaughter.

In times of peril, hardship and trepidation, such as now, I think I'd prefer to put my trust in tangible institutions such as the many Humanitarian Aid organisations, The Good Samaritans and all other such benevolent bodies.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
1 point

I want to share my testimony. Yes. I testify that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and our beloved Saviour. I testify that He saved us from our sins. I testify that near the end, all knees shalt bend when His presence is known amongst us all on that Day of His Second Coming. In the latter-days, God shalt pour His spirit upon all His children. I am a child of God, I am a child of the Covenant and I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. We are the sons & daughters of God. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen!

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
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I don't think Jesus is our savior. Yet, there are worse religions. For example, I was reading a 2017 Atlantic article and many of the alt-right are moving to paganism because it fits better with white supremacy.

"The alt-right is a kind of new paganism, one centered around the “sanctity” of the “white race.” Make no mistake though, it is paganism nonetheless. " Taylor S. Brown

That being said, I am going to try my best to back down from these type of arguments. I am even considering going back to church now that the pandemic is hopefully winding down. Ultimately, the alt-right right white supremacist is so much worse than Christianity. Remember that Norse shaman who stormed capital hill?

Supporting Evidence: alt-right paganism. (www.patheos.com)
Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

All of your arguments are fully invalidated. You don't think at all because you are empty minded, stupid, retarded and ignorant. That is why you have lost every argument.

Atheism Debunked (Officially and For Real)
Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

Evidence suggests that Jesus existed. He is real and I testify He still lives.

04/02/top-ten-discoveries-related-to-jesus/

Ignorant atheists and snowflakes can never grasp the meaning of life because they would rather take the easy way out by following their own understanding of Christianity. The opposition here has proven that multiple times and has been debunked more than once. It will continue until the opposition surrenders which you will if you know what's best for you.

Evidence of Christian science. God created science. Is law a science? Yes. Christopher Langdell said that. While his counterpart wanted to compare relativism to law with no absolute truth? HA. There is absolute truth. It's called facts.

https://academic.oup.com/book/27545/chapter-abstract/197533980?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://www.famousscientists.org/great-scientists-christians/

Top Latter-day Saint Quotes:

We did not come to this earth to gain our worth – we brought it with us. – Ardeth G. Kapp

Even if “everyone is doing it” wrong is never right. – Russell M. Nelson

Pray to have eyes to see God's hand in your life and in the world around you. – Russell M. Nelson

He rarely moves the mountains in front of us but he always helps us climb them. – Sheri Dew

https://pursuingveritas.com/2014/11/19/pagan-christianity/

Supporting Evidence: The Top Most Famous Scientists that were & are Christians (www.famousscientists.org)
Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

Following the lies and deception of "sciencerules", he has proven to be heterophobic, truthphobic and Christophobic. This is what the snowflake had to say, This is homophobia and transphobia.

Zooming the camera back, you have the advantage when it comes to knowledge of LGBTQIA+ and I have the upper-hand when it comes to religious knowledge.

From your previous statements I can extrapolate that you haven't read Richard's Dawkins' the God Delusion, Sam Harris' End of Faith, nor Christopher Hitchens' God is not Great. This is why your arguments were so easily defeated.

The reverse is true when it comes to LGBTQIA+. I haven't debated the topic before. So, most of your arguments are brand new to me. I do know that historically the winner/oppressor writes history and controls the deep narrative. You have to look to the underdog to understand.

Straight cis-gender people have the dominant deep narrative. Meaning to understand the issue you have to look at LGBTQIA+ material. Here's some links. Again, I can't debate you on this subject because I am too lacking in knowledge and time to learn enough to debate effectively.

https://www.theadvocate.com/

Supporting Evidence: sciencebased medicine transgender. (sciencebasedmedicine.org)"

Mutilation is not a medicine. It is insanity. "Sciencerules" has proven to have no basis of scientific fact nor the real needs for those who suffer from the mental illness: Gender dysphoria. Heterophobia will now be shown as intolerable. "sciencerules" is a hypocrite for show.

How "transgenderism" goes against natural law:

https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2016/01/16143/

Your arguments are invalidated 100%.

The truthful Bat Media has this to counter act against the slander and hypocrisy of "sciencerules"

Batman knocks out "sciencerule" by one single truthful punch to the throat. When it comes to lgbt and religious discussions, I have the superior upper hand. While "sciencerules and his subjective toxic self, self proclaims himself knowledgeable but is ignorant, subjective and intoxicating. He is an atheist. Therefore he has no knowledge of Christianity at all, only subjective assumptions based on biased opinion. My knowledge in debunking Darwinism is also superior 100%. It has been proven numerous times that "sciencerules" is inferior in every debate so far. "Charles Dawkins?" Don't you mean Charles Darwin, you dumb joke? You, "sciencerules" are a sorry excuse for a human being on this earth. My words are absolutely truthful and i have destroyed you in every debate. The bible spoke of people like you boasting as if you knew more than God. Looks like you've proven me right.

Why 2SLGBTQIAMAREPedophiles is harmful to society?

It all starts out from the 60s or so when cults arose, claiming to be for free love, equality, and peace. But was it really? No. 5 years prior to these dramatic changes in society, we have a psychologist from New Zealand who claimed gender can be changed and therefore changed the definition. He said it can be "bendable". He then experimented on his little brother along with several other boys & girls. His little brother did not want to go through with the procedure but he had no say. His parents blindly agreed to the procedure without thinking what he was gonna experience. He got mutilated and John Money called him a woman. His little brother refused to admit he was a woman because he knew he was still a man. Today, we have gender deniers who claim "gender is a social construct" and claim gender can be changed. Biology says otherwise.

Evidence of the two lesbians from Brazil who murdered a young boy:

http://baltimoreoutloud.com/wp/brazilian-lesbian-couple-mutilate-behead-nine-year-old-son/

Lesbians who murdered a man to steal his inheritance. Seems more and more of God's commandments are being broken here and yes, the law is being broken too as people are being murdered:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/lesbian-lovers-killed-dismembered-man-to-steal-inheritance/

There you have the "L" in LGBT.

Proof of there being homosexual serial killers before ever since the 60s-70s:

Becoming evil: A cult of personality (Homosexual Serial Killers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-41G9M2KXQ

Evidence of 4 gay men who are serial killers. Homophobia doesn't exist because we are not scared of gay people. We know who they are. We know what they've done. We know what they still do and still are; scum.

https://inmagazine.ca/2021/04/queer-crime-how-homophobia-helped-4-gay- serial-killers-continue-to-kill/

Activists today claim that they have been oppressed throughout the ages. But this is just not true because historically, there have been statistics of homosexual convicts. There you have it, the "G" of LGBTQIAMAPEDOPHILE. Yes, they are attempting to make normal people say they are pedophiles. However, it is lgbt who are the pedophiles since they want minorly attracted people aka an alias for pedophiles to be included. What does this mean? They want to be inclusive towards kiddie rapists and to call it a "valid sexual orientation".

He was originally sentenced to death in 1971, his sentence was commuted to life with the possibility of parole after the California Supreme Court invalidated the state's death penalty statute in 1972. He served his life sentence at the California State Prison, Corcoran, and died at age 83 in late 2017. There's your "B" in LGBT. Don't forget BLM too! They are included in this too! Burning, Looting & Murder! Oh yes, very "inclusive". Not to mention racist and hypocritical from all sides. They claim to be against white supremacy and yet they ARE WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

What's this? A bisexual serial killer? Well well well.

[https://www.advocate.com/news/2002/10/31/bisexual-alleged-serial-killer-confesses-6794]

In the year 1955, there was a man named John Money. He was a psychologist of New Zealand. He decided to change the definition of gender, believing it can be rearranged physically. He was wrong but he experimented on his little brother and several other boys & girls. His little brother refused to believe he had turned into a girl and killed himself eventually because he had lost his manhood. Ask yourself, did he really want to be castrated just because he had some manhood issue down there? Apparently, his parents allowed it. They were either in fear or they were naive enough to believe John Money was right. Obviously, they had no idea. Years later, John was arrested for pedophilia. Amidst the 60s, you know which president was murdered. President John F. Kennedy. Amidst this time, there was also a growing group called the Manson Family. They were led by a so called musician named Charles Manson. He was a convict for a time, had to do time in jail for shoplifting. Within 1969 though, that's when it happened. After convincing so many teen girls and guys to have sex with him, do drugs etc etc, he decided to order them to commit murder upon the LaBianca and Tate families. Both were families of actors and actresses from Hollywood. Manson believed there was a conspiracy of a race war but he began it. He blamed the murders on black Americans. He was shown to be bisexual in the tv show "Aquarius" where he had raped a man who was a father to a daughter who he had seduced into joining his "cause". So are bisexuals susceptible to murder too? Absolutely. The other links prove gays and lesbians are also susceptible to murder. Within the Manson Family, there were bisexuals, gays and lesbians included. John Money only added in the "T" for "trans" people who still are not the opposite gender of who he or she claims he or she was born as. Ellen Page is still a woman. Bruce Jenner is still a man. It's interesting right? Since John Money lived way before the Manson Murders occurred and way before Manson became some crook and drug addicting sex cult leader.

https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case#:~:text=In the mid-1960s, psychologist,due to a failed circumcision.

Today, we have toxic snowflakes forcing this ideology onto innocent children in schools, kids' shows etc. They should be banned immediately because boys will be boys. Girls will be girls. Don't like it? You are truthphobic. Anyone who debates back will be silenced immediately by the truth and only the truth.

There you have the "T" in LGBT

Q for Qanon: Qanon is known as a cult. Lgbt seem to be denying they are a cult. Evidence suggests otherwise. Their indenial only adds more suspicion to the populace who knows them for who they are. It's only a matter of time before they admit it.

"Murder most Queer", a novel about a homocidal homosexual. Tsk tsk tsk. Shame on you lgbt. Shame shame shame.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3998/mpub.6949764

I for Intersex: They claim that this is a new gender discovery and thus "gender theory" is born. But nope. Gender theory is destroyed by logical factual debaters including me, Ben Shapiro, etc.

2 is unexplained but still sus. Perhaps it stands for #metoo?

A for Asexual or Animal, yet normal humans; men, women, boys, and girls are not animals. We are not, in fact, asexual beings.

I can pretty much point out that "Lgbtaiapedos" are now accepting MAPs aka pedophiles. Yes they deny it so they can hide the truth from the public eye because pedophilia is illegal and immoral. They have already been exposed and will continue to be exposed for their immoral actions to the point where cops will arrest them on charges of child abuse. They claim that "asexual" is a human sexuality. Take biology 101 and you will find that asexuality doesn't exist amongst humans. Asexuality means being able to reproduce without a partner of the opposite gender/sex. Is gender/sex binary? Absolutely. Science dictates it. "Non binary, genderfluid etc" does not exist.

Asexuality is only within certain animals who can reproduce without having a partner since the female animal, such as a lizard, doesn't need to get it's egg fertilized by sperm from a male lizard. Or a bird for instance can hatch baby birds with unfertilized eggs. In humans, females aka biological women CANNOT have a baby unless her egg within her ovaries is fertilized by a male with his sperm. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF MARRIAGE EXCLUSIVELY BEING BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. Intersex isn't a new gender either. Intersex aka the condition of being born without a penis for men or being born with both a penis and a vagina is called a birth defect. Eunuchs are males without a penis. Hermaphroditism is a condition where women apparently have a dick attached to her vagina. It is a genetic disorder connected towards chromosomal disorder as well. Normally, you have XY being the male chromosomes and XX being the female chromosomes. You cannot mess with biological features and if you do, you get distorted, messed up humans who look like trolls. Lgbt thinks they can sway people in a way to fulfill their sick fantasies. It isn't logical to self mutilate yourself nor mutilate the kids out there being indoctrinated into this stuff. "Love is love" is a lie because lgbt isn't about love, it's about lust, pride, vanity and hubris. It's about being blinded to the wrong, "calling it good".

And now for M. Yes. They deny they include pedophiles right?

Evidence suggests they have a hidden pedo flag and M stands for MAP aka a Minorly Attracted person. Yes. They want to include people who are attracted to little boys or little girls. They are indeed pedophiles. Lgbt is guilty of everything sexually immoral.

https://factcheck.afp.com/pride-flag-pedophiles-someone-created-one-no-one-waves-it

http://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps

Do I know what MAPs mean?

Yes I do know what it means and it's harmful to kids. MAP stands for minorly attracted person. "Lgbt" is toxic and subjective just as I had always perceived. They want to include pedophiles. Lgbt content needs to be eradicated from schools, movies, shows etc. It is inappropriate and they have always been immoral in all of their actions. They are hypocrites, snowflakes and subjective toxic retards with a mind to change gender, family structure and everything we've built from the ground up. Who are they to dictate what we can and cannot say? Biology goes against gender theory, gender cannot be changed. There is no gender spectrum. Marriage and true love is only between a man and a woman. Men are men. Women are women. Boys are boys. Girls are girls. Those are aboslute objective facts. John Money tried to change gender in 1955. He experimented on kids illegally, forced his little brother to be mutilated. HIs little brother refused to admit he's a woman and committed suicide because he lost his penis. John was arrested on charges of child abuse and pedophilia.

No matter how much you pursue a career to push your ideologies onto us while denying that you support the normalization of pedophilia, I will bash you in with full truths right now with zero mercy. You are not a transwoman nor a transman. There is no such thing. Gender cannot be changed. Biology already states it. With you retards indoctrinating trans ideology onto kids in schools, it already shows you are pedohiles and you are not good at hiding it. You are a hypocrite for pointing out that anti lgbt are the bad guys when we anti lgbt supporters are for morality and not sexual immorality.

If you continue to argue otherwise, I will debate you and destoy you with more facts. I do not care how many times you insult me. "Transphobia" doesn't exist because we are not irrationally in fear of you pedophiles. In fact, it is YOU lgbt pedophiles who are irrationally in fear of us Christians, the truth and heterosexuals. Catholics are not Christians and they are as corrupt as you are. You support BLM who murder and burn, btw they do not protect black people, you do realize that right? No? Hypocritical ignorant and snowflake. My words are aboslute and God would have you all eradicated.

What's next? S for Serial Killers? M doesn't just stand for MAPs does it? Could it stand for murder?

2 Sociopathic Lesbians Got Bisexually Transformed Into A Minorly Attracted Person.

One last thing, if you are simping whole heartedly for one called Richard Dawkins, he went nuts ages ago and has failed in his "crusade against religion itself". God prevails!

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

"How do you know Jesus will return?" - asks the ignorant snowflake named "sciencerules"

Here we have, once again, a questioning atheist who knows zero to nothing about our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ. I will not answer you because you are not a friend. You have proven unwise and blasphemous against God and His Eternal Son, Jesus Christ. When that Day Comes, you will bow before Him and you will be sorry for all the bs you've spewed.

I am a Child of God and God is already prevailing. Jesus overcame this world before all of us of this age were born. He never cared to be seduced by the politics of man. The Jewish Pharisee though....yes...they were unfortunately convinced that politics can merge with the Abrahamic Faith. Not that every Jewish individual is to blame. Jesus would disapprove of liberalism and He would point out the true haters of all situations just like when He did at the Temple, when people were selling livestock, exchanging coin for sheep etc on Holy grounds. Oh yes. He was pissed off and for good reason too. Liberals and leftists love money. If you love money, you cannot love God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Greed has overtaken the leftist side and you are included amongst those who would rather love the things of this world. That is your choice and your choice alone. As it is proclaimed in the Bible, if you love the things of this world; meaning any kind of sin, you do not have the love of the Father nor Jesus within you. Very few find the narrow path more comforting as those few delight in the truth. That includes me. I will never bow to the insanity of the leftist snowflakes. Evil will lose and we shall let God prevail.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
1 point

Christianity began way before that. 415 A.D is when the Roman Catholic Church began to instate their ministry on earth and it wasn't official until 590 A.D. Jesus wasn't born around that. He had already gone back to Heaven by that time. You clearly do not have the historical knowledge of Christianity in your mind. Therefore your arguments are invalid. Christianity began around 6000 years ago before Christ. 4004 B.C is the year of Creation. 4 B.C is the year that Christ was born. 4000 years later, we have an additional 2000 years without Christ on earth. Yes that includes the historical years you know from the time of Rome, to the Fall of Rome, to the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, to the Renaissance, to the Colonial Age(1776, 4th of July, AMERICAN REVOLUTION. SEMPER FI HOOORAH!!), to the Enlightenment Age where stupid atheists decided to ban God but failed to(Oh yes, "very enlightening eh?"), to the Imperial Age, the Industrial Age and ofc the Restoration of the Fulness of the Gospel of Christ, to the Civil War in America, to the Old West, to the Great Depression, WW1 and WW2, the Cold War, all the nasty sex cult movements, the Vietnam War etc etc etc, up until now. You have done zero research and instead rely on the false church that has been lying about when Christianity began. 415 A.D is around the time of Constantine, the eastern Roman Emperor. Christianity never began from Rome. Babylon was the old false religion that affected the world greatly, especially Persia, Egypt and Greece. Christianity was officially born within the 1st century. However, that does not exclude the other biblical events known as the Old Testament. Within the Old Testament, the One True Faith wasn't described as Christianity yet. Rather it was just about the God of Israel, the prophets and the tales we know to be true. The Old Testament is still followed by the followers of Judaism but they deny the New Testament. Yet both are important. The Old Testament years began from 4004 B.C until 4 B.C, the Birth of Christ. In 36 B.C, He dies and comes back after 3 days and then the year obviously became described as "After Death". The New Testament year began from 4 B.C. God still speaks to us today and ever since the Restoration, thanks to Joseph Smith, Revelations came to pass and continues to come true today. The label of "Christian" was given by the Romans and people all around because well, they were followers of Christ. The Roman Catholic Church as I've stated is not the true Church of Jesus Christ. There are many reasons behind why. The popes all proclaimed to be Jesus or God the Father when none of them were. Jesus spoke of many who would claim they believe but instead their actions speak louder than their words. The Roman Catholic Church was officially founded around after the time when the Western Roman Empire collapsed. The Roman Empire fell in 476 A.D. The Old Testament takes place in Israel not in Rome nor Greece yet. Only Egypt where the Israelites were enslaved by Ramesses II to build his pyramid of glory to the "gods" aka the ancient Babylonian deities or Sumerian deities which are all fashionably false. The year the false roman church was created was in the year, 590 C.E. The Rise of the Eastern Roman Empire was meant to "restore" Rome's old glory days but with Christianity added to it. Obviously, it didn't work. In the year 395 C.E aka 395 A.D, the Eastern Roman Empire was fully established. Approximately 70 years earlier, in 325 A.D, Constantine and the Councils of Nicaea decided to change the nature of God and thus wrote the unapproved man made doctrine of the "Trinity" aka the Nicene Creed. Yes, the Eastern Roman Empire aka Byzantine Empire became a "Christian Empire". But the Emperor allowed paganism to be mixed in. In other words, they screwed up books and historical records, attempting to change up things and to "play God". They were wrong to do so but kicked out all the actual believers in God and in Jesus who spoke this truth. The councils than wrongfully deified Jesus as the only God and put forth the Nicene Creed which is not proper doctrine for Christianity. it is still promoted by Catholics and Protestants today aka the big mainstream Christian communities put together. The true believers reject this man made doctrine for it perverts God and His Only Begotten, Jesus Christ. The God of Israel isn't interchangeable but Constantine made it so that God has "three forms" which is paganistic and inaccurate. It is a mockery of Judeo-Christian history as a whole. I have spoken absolute objective truths and will continue to debunk your subjective lies.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity/The-history-of-Christianity

As ignorant as you are, you are unfit to debate on the absolute eternal truths of God. I have won this debate. Cry me a river and get over it.

When did the Byzantine Empire exist? The Byzantine Empire existed from approximately 395 CE—when the Roman Empire was split—to 1453. It became one of the leading civilizations in the world before falling to an Ottoman Turkish onslaught in the 15th century.

What is the Nicene Creed?

Nicene Creed, also called Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, a Christian statement of faith that is the only ecumenical creed because it is accepted as authoritative by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and major Protestant churches. It was created in 325 A.D. Now, 395 A.D is when the Eastern Roman Empire officially becomes an Empire while before hand, Constantine had to go on conquest, conquering lands here and there, converting all the conquered peoples of various nations. Constantine than declared at one point in history that there is to be "One God, One Emperor, One Faith". But here's the thing. Constantine believed himself to be the "God of all time". He wasn't, neither was Alexander who loved the City of Babylon more than anything. He died there. Constantine was never even a true believer. He was a pagan beforehand and only converted so that he could "bring something new" to his people. Yet, historically, Christianity already existed way before he could walk and talk.

According to The Moody Handbook of Theology, the official beginning of the Roman Catholic church occurred in 590 CE, with Pope Gregory I. This time marked the consolidated of lands controlled by authority of the pope, and thus the church's power, into what would later be known as "the Papal States."

Evidence that the Roman church was not the original ministry of Jesus Christ:

https://www.theoldie.co.uk/blog/constantinople-mighty-capital-of-the-roman-empire

People take that verse from the Bible about Jesus telling Peter that He will built His Church upon Peter out of context so much. You are included amongst those who assume the Roman Church is the true one while it is not. Paganism was never part of Christianity in the 1st Century.

"Christianity sold out around 415 AD with the horrible witch trial like murder of Hypatia. Like the radical Republican party who were liberal, Christianity got corrupted very early.

Winter is coming and I need to get ready. Expect less replies from me. Thank you for the in depth conversations."

Christianity was never sold out at 415 A.D. The Romans usurped the original ministry that was put on earth by Jesus Christ Himself. Republicans are not guilty nor corrupt, but like retarded democrats, you have fallen for their tricks and that's why you are toxic, subjective and invalid in all your claims. The Republicans will win in 2024. Trump did nothing wrong. The democrats have lost and yes, there was election fraud. Plus, the FBI were unjustified in raiding Trump's home. Their actions are in violation of the U.S Constitution. I don't give a rat's ass that winter's coming and that you just quoted a game of thrones line, you will expect no mercy from me and even if you don't reply, it will mean that I've won. This was no in depth conversation. This was me lecturing you how wrong and ignorant you are.

God prevails, Trumps wins. Batman wins, "sciencerules" has been lectured to the fullest. Continue this uphill battle and you will expect more defeats.

"Expect the unexpected because you are not going to win no matter what." - Dr. Batman

Once again, it is the romans who corrupted and "usurped control" over Christianity. It does not mean it belongs to them to change as they want. Yet the followers of the True Faith still stands in opposition to the false counterfeit "Christianity" that we have today led by "Rome". The pope is not God's messenger nor the prophet on earth. I speak absolute objective truths of God, the Gospel and pure facts of science and politics altogether. You have so far produced nothing but lies, lies, slander, slander an subjective opinions.

Jesus wasn't born in the common era of man. He was born around 6 BC to 4 BC and He died in the year 36 A.D. So yeah, His ministry, teachings, and disciples already existed. Like I said above, the Old Testament was before Jesus came to earth and was talking of Moses and Abraham primarily along with every other ancient Prophet of that time. In the Old Testament, it speaks of Sodom & Gomorrah, Lot's family etc etc. You may think this has ties to Judaism and yes, yes it does. The rebels who never listened to Moses attempted to worship a golden calf but they were stopped before they could go any further. So no, it isn't corruption that existed early on. It's that some people were always going to be doing wrong stuff that basically showed disobedience to the Lord. That's why the Flood happened in Noah's Ark. The wicked were wiped out and that's how God showed His rainbow saying, "I will never flood the earth again".

The corruption ONLY BEGAN when the Catholics aka Romans decided to take over because they had the resources and troops to wipe out nearly all the 12 Apostles of Christ. It's no wonder Jesus said, "You shall never believe, lest thou sees a miracle occur before your eyes."

Yes, Revelations is coming true every day! So no, corruption never existed within Christianity at the very beginning early on as you falsely claim. It happened within the middle when Christianity was totally fine. Catholics are certainly not the representatives of the One True Faith. They are the false prophets and false preachers that Jesus spoke about and it's deceived many, including yourself.

Sooner or later, maybe 2026, approximately 250 years after 1776, the Declaration of Independence Day, there will be a Second American Revolution, perhaps with the help of Canadian and British allied armed forces to take America back from Biden, who has seemingly become another "Mad King George III". Certainly, King Charles III is not George III. He is the son of Queen Elizabeth II and I do NOT THINK that he is a mad dictator! Queen Elizabeth II was loved and I pray to Almighty God that America is retaken not just by Americans, but also by the friends of America, Canadians & the good people of Britannia. One final thing is, I testify the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true church restored upon this earth. Christ's original ministry began Sept. 11th, 26 A.D. I testify the Book of Mormon is true. In my recent findings, I have discovered that the Book of Mormon began in the year 600 B.C to about 421 A.D (During the Great Apostasy).

Supporting Evidence: The Bible & the Book of Mormon in Chronological Order (mythbank.com)
Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
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Even Ken Ham explains everything. From debunking Darwin's Theory of Evolution to explaining the depths of DNA & Biology along with the different kinds of animals like dogs(And how dogs are dogs, no matter how many types there are) to Natural Disasters to Noah's Ark (Land animals were saved not all animals were on the Ark, especially sea creatures.) and ofc last but not least, debunking Global Warming. The Ice Age only occurred once. It's not happening again. God had said, the earth shall never be flooded again. Hence why He showed the rainbow which isn't a symbol of pride as snowflakes have stolen it and twisted it just as Hitler twisted the Swastika symbol from the sign of good fortune to the hatred of the Jewish people. It takes a Christian scientific expert on science itself to explain in depth all the things about it itself. All opposition are most likely atheists who can't accept the truth as it is; that the Bible and History go hand in hand. Richard Dawkins proved nothing. He has now gone AWOL and has been destroying his own reputation. Sucks for him but he has already chosen to go delusional. Those who delusionally believe him are the same as him.

Atheists hate this video (Ken Ham)
Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
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Buddy, I'm up here eating popcorn with Bhudda and Hitler watching y'all fuck this up. I'm not saving shit.

Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
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You are not our Lord & Saviour, false Christ. Nobody is worshiping you except yourself, vanity demon. THOU SHALT BE SMITE DOWN BY OUR GOD!

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Burglegut(7) Disputed
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vanity demon. THOU SHALT BE SMITE DOWN BY OUR GOD!

Have you ever considered getting the help you need?

Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior
1 point

My dude, you take this shithole website way too seriously.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
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"Buddy", I do not give two flying f*s of what you're doing. You are a false Christ and you will be denounced. Depart because no one impersonates the Lord & Savior. You are not one bit close to what He can do. Judgement will be passed on your pitiful wicked soul. I have spoken absolute objective truths.

Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
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I believe that SexyJesus is the one and only true Jesus. Remember the Lord works in mysterious ways. How would you tell the difference between the one true Christ and an illusion of Satan anyways?

If you ever read the forgotten books of Eden by Rutherford Platt you will know that Satan the hater of all good is a deceiver. A deceiver that over and over against fooled Adam and other characters. This is by casting illusions.

Therefore, Satan could easily cast an illusion to look like Jesus. How will you tell if you are following Satan or Jesus?

Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one and only true God. The world is exactly 5,000 years old. Natural selection is a lie!!!!!

"Pastafarianism says that the modern human shares 99.9% of their DNA with pirates. Therefore, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster strongly believes that the modern man really evolved from pirates."

Humans evolved from pirates.

Supporting Evidence: Humans evolved from pirates. (spaghettimonster.com)
Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior
Dr_Batman(1523) Disputed
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False news times infinity. Clearly, you are making this up, twisting the truth and facts into your own narrative. None of what you say is true. You are a liar and a troll. All your arguments are invalidated. We are descended from Adam & Eve. You are now debunked.

Supporting Evidence: What does genetics say about Adam & Eve? (biologos.org)
Side: Pro: Jesus is our savior
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You got it all wrong if you don't accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster you risk the freezer of doom.

"descend to the depths of the Underground Freezer of Doom"

You will come to learn the truth of Captain Mosey.

Supporting Evidence: Freezer of Doom. (spaghettimonster.com)
Side: Con: Jesus was not our savior