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I understand the early 17th century English right enough but I do not understand why a god of love in whom Christians purport to believe would torture people who are unpersuaded of his existence. And why even say such a ghastly thing; to frighten unbelievers? Hardly, since they consider such a threat as bogus to begin with. Or maybe to encourage feelings of being special in those who are believers? Odd, that those who are already blessed need to also believe that others will suffer, not them. Or just maybe it is to stir fear in believers who are tempted to become apostates? Yes, that fits better.
God loves justice as He is good and could not be good if He did not condemn evil. You cannot expect God to love evil. God remains as He is, loving, while He condemns evil. It is good to know that God hates evil and will purge creation of sin, and will forever separate sinners dying from those who trust and obey Him in life.
You are confused because you are trying to justify your sin and it is not possible to justify sin...you cannot justify your life, you have sinned against God and deserve His punishment. He proves His love for you in that He gave His Son to die for you, for your sins, so that if you will repent of your sin and receive His Son by faith as He is, the Living God who conquered death, your Savior, you will have His forgiveness rather than what you have now...His wrath against your sin, for your refusal to believe on His Son whom He gave for you. He died for you, even though you were against Him as a sinner, He died for His enemies...there is no greater love. If you will not believe, you will die for yourself and pay for your own sins in the fire of Hell and that is JUSTICE and it is good (not good for you, of course, if you will not believe). You will never know the love of God if you will not believe on His Son.
Why do sinners always try to paint God as being evil for torturing people? It is you who tortured Him with your sin, and He endured your torture because He loved you so much......so much that He spread out His arms for you and died on the cross, paid your price, the Innocent One died for the guilty which is you............
If you don't care what He did for you, how can you expect Him to care for you if you are frying like an eternal sausage in eternal dying in Hell?
Forgive me for not responding to each of your long responses to my post. The problem, you see, is that I do not understand what you mean. I am sure you will not understand me either when I tell you that I do not believe in any gods except as the products of ancient imaginations passed on through the ages before they become extinct along with the cultures which invented them.
Forgive me for reading little if any of your posts. When you say you don't believe in any gods, I don't know what you are talking about. When you say that you do not believe in God, we both know you are talking about God. If you are not going to be clear in what you are talking about, then you are either purposely avoiding clear conversation or your mental capacity is damaged.
All the gibberish about ancient imaginations is a waste of time.
I understand that atheism is a mental block which makes it very hard for you to read anything that might expose you as you try to hide behind that mental block wall....and the wall is crumbling down in death.
God says He will laugh at you, mock you....did you read that?
Hear it is in shorter form, since by your own admission you have difficulty paying attention.
Because I (God, named here as "wisdom", personification of God the Holy Spirt) have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
You are lying when you say you to not understand John 3:36, and you don't want to admit and repent of your sin so on you go in it, lying and sinning on your way to Hell. You don't have to go that way, you can be saved and have eternal life.
Of all the scriptures you chose one written by an author who was not contemporary to the life of Christ and now want to dwell on those words as if the author magically heard them directly from Christ's mouth...
I checked out the site you referenced, and no surprise it is not a Christian website. Any site which upholds "scholars" who try to trash the deity and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ are not Christian.....they are anti-Christ.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I challenged the legitimacy of the book of John itself, and I used a source believing in Christianity, and the best you could do is repost from the book of John.
The source you cited is a well orchestrated anti-Christian website which denies the deity of Jesus Christ and His bodily resurrection. All they are doing is making money off of the interest people have in middle East history while they try to trash the Bible, trash the deity of Christ, trash His bodily resurrection from the dead...they are not Christian any more than you are Christian, they are just like you Grenade.
I asked you nicely to not post here again. Now you are banned so you can't be so rude.
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
I am not interested in any source which is or which claims to be Christian while they attempt to obliterate the authority of God's word. Of course you love a site like that because you know God's word condemns drunks.
Yes, you challenge the legitimacy of the whole Bible, you challenge the authority of God, you challenge the reality of Hell, you are the big challenger.....losing it all in death.
Did you get this?......The source you cited is a well orchestrated anti-Christian website, one which denies the deity of Jesus Christ and His bodily resurrection. All they are doing is making money off of the interest people have in middle East history while they try to trash the Bible, trash the deity of Christ, trash His bodily resurrection from the dead...they are not Christian any more than you are Christian, they are just like you Grenade........sinners who believe they have the right to exist outside of Hell while dying should prove to them that they have no such right.
one which denies the deity of Jesus Christ and His bodily resurrection.
Your topsy turvy logic really makes me laugh. Nobody has to deny your fairy tales because you have not provided a shred of evidence, in 2,000 years, that they are anything but fairy tales. People should not be attacked for refusing to take literally a myth about a guy who regularly broke the laws of physics.
Jesus Christ created the laws of physics, He is God. Entropy is the result of sin. Jesus never sinned, He is not bound by entropy, He could not be held by death.
You are held in death. You're not very bright. You won't believe Hell is real and people fry there like eternal sausages until you find yourself in the fire unable to get out.
John 3:36....the wrath of God abides on you, and you seem to enjoy it. I guess you might as well enjoy your sin while you can.
You're the attacker, moron...that's all you do with me. You think that you are proving you have the right to exist outside of Hell...you're a fool, and I'm not attacking you I'm kicking your rude childish tail out of the door.
If you feel you are being attacked when I tell you that God loves you and wants you to trust Him so that you can be saved from Hell, that's not my problem. I don't owe you any apology.
Don't believe that Jesus died for you, don't believe that He is God, don't believe that He conquered death and enjoy yourself in your dying as long as you can and see if you don't end up in Hell. Am I attacking you? You are the one who wants to attack...get out of my house.
You're like G.ache..........you feel compelled to attack me because you hate the truth, you hate being told that you deserve to die and burn in Hell for your sins, you won't believe God died in your place, paid your price so that you can be forgiven, you don't want to repent of your sin...probably a sodomite, this site reeks of them.
Most people who talk like you are sexually deviant if not sodomite. You talk like a pervert, you seem to enjoy sodomite imaginations, I have to conclude that you are a sodomite. I suppose I could be wrong and you only enjoy imagining sodomite actions while you do not physically engage in such perversion...but you talk like a pervert so you are a pervert.
Anybody with an attitude like yours will believe anything but the truth. We all deserve to die and burn in Hell for our sins, God took our sins on Himself when He became a man, the Son of God sent by the Father, to die for us so His justice is satisfied by the blood of the Innocent One who could not be held by death.....as death is holding you and pulling you down to Hell and the Risen Savior who would bring you out of it is your only hope and you proudly refuse to believe on Him so your blood is on your own head and if you need proof that you are not good enough to exist outside of the fire of Hell you surely have it coming.
That's enough out of you. Please do not post here again. I am asking nice, if you post again I am going to ban you and you can insult me until you are blue in the face if it makes you feel better.
Pay attention. I posted a scholarly review of the book of John by Biblical Archeology. Those are true believers and true Bible scholars. You ignored it, simply reposted more from John, and then have the nerve to tell me I don't belong in this debate.
Go ahead and ban me now. You've already revealed you're either a complete fraud or a careless idiot.
And look, I didn't even have to get blue in the face. You make this easy.
Any "scholarly" attempt to discredit the word of God is erroneous and true scholars know this. There has always been, and always will be, attempts by people consumed by their pride to cast doubt on the word of God and elevate their own faulty intellect claiming to have God's authority...or claiming God has no authority. There is no end of these endeavors, always more and more "scholars" saying the same thing the devil said to Eve in Genesis..."yea, hath God said...?"
I am not interested in your desire to debate the veracity of the word of God, I am simply pointing out that you are condemned because of your unbelief. All you do is try to justify your existence outside of Hell and you are failing. It is not possible to justify your life, you are condemned.
It's better if you just stay out of my discussions. People with attitudes like yours are bound and determined to be swallowed up in death thinking they are proving they are free of punishment, exonerated, and exempt from Hell. There is no point in me listening to you when I know what you are going to say, and you know what I am going to say. I am going to say the word of God is true and you will be judged according to it, and you insist that you cannot be held in contempt, condemned to fry like at eternal sausage crying for Andy to help you and crying for a drop of wine.
It is you who needs to pay attention, you are on your way to Hell, you are condemned, and you are rejecting God's offer of pardon through the blood of His Son who took your place in death so your price is paid by Him and He in His resurrection has the power and willingness to forgive you of the sin He paid for. You want to pay for it yourself, you might as well keep on sipping that wine....you are arguing, I am stating the truth and we will see who is right, won't we? You and your Catholic brother are on your way to Hell. You could get saved and tell your Catholic brother how He can be saved, but you won't, will you?...no, you love your wine and sin more than life and you think you can tell God that you are good so you don't deserve eternal damnation in the fire of Hell.
You are wrong, and I really don't care for your attempts to justify yourself. How many times have I asked you to stay out of my debates? I asked you nicely here not to post again, said it was enough out of you here and you go on and on and on repeating yourself. You said enough for crying out loud, now you can go and see for yourself if you have the right to exist outside of Hell....and I hope, though I doubt that you will, I hope you decide God is righteous and you are unrighteous under His judgement and seek His mercy and receive His Son by faith and be saved from Hell but you won't, will you? You think you are exempt already, you're a fool, Grenache........tell your brother I said hello.
You don't belong in this debate. All you are doing is trying to disrupt and distract away from the simple statement of John 3:16. And why are you doing this? Because you don't want to admit that you deserve to die and burn in Hell as a sinner, you think you are too stinking good for God to look at you as condemned...and you are dying, on death row, condemned, and trying to pretend it's not true. You are losing everything while you constantly claim victory in your useless loser's arguments.
Are you paying attention, Grenade? John 3:36 says that the wrath of God abides on you...did you get that? All I can see from you is that you want to say God's word is not true. Why in the world do you have to go on and on and on about it? Why don't you just stay out of my discussions.
You don't believe Jesus is God. Got it.
You don't believe God's word is true. Got it.
You believe that you have the right to exist outside of Hell. Got it.
Fine. You are pretty much incapable of carrying on a conversation with me, ever since you told me how your Catholic brother thinks he is better than you and has the better chance of evading the fire of Hell. You guys are both on your way to Hell, thinking you can justify yourselves to live outside of it. You cannot justify yourself, the only way to be justified is by God who died for your sins and rose from the dead offering forgiveness to all who believe on Him and receive Him by faith. He who died for their sins is the justifier of sinners who believe on Him...sinner man Grenade....maybe if you quit your wine idol, your brain will be less foggy so you can think realistically about your dying and your need to be saved by God.
That garbage you posted is not scholarly, it's people who think they are better than God, and who think their words are better than the word of God...and no matter how much they claim to be Christians, or how many people think they are Christians, it's hard to believe they are Christians when they are against God's word. Jesus is the Living Word of God....the Bible is His word. You don't have to believe it, you can go on believing that you are justified to live outside of Hell even when you are frying there like an eternal sausage.
Now Headache, what have I done or said that would qualify me as a fraud, and what have I done or said that it idiotic? Do you think it's idiotic for me to tell you that sinners deserve to die and burn in Hell, and only God can save you from it?
Do you think it's idiotic for me to tell you that God gave His Son to be the propitiation for your sins, so that His wrath which abides on you can be lifted off of you and you can be forgiven?
Go on in your pride, G.ache......I don't know why I bothered to allow you to post beyond the moment I saw your icon in my debate. Maybe that is what qualifies me as in idiot; I gave you a chance to discuss John 3:36 and should have known you are incapable of doing it.
Hey....where did your glass of wine go? I know you didn't stop drinking, you can't because you are a wino......admit it, you are unable to quit drinking.
Pay attention, wino...the discussion here is about those who believe on Jesus and those who don't. You don't, so according to John 3:36, you are condemned already.
If you want to have a discussion about your feelings regarding the book of John, do it somewhere else. The topic here is Having eternal life VS Condemned already...you are on the Condemned already side here.
I guess I can understand why you don't want to discuss the topic.
True believers and true Bible scholars.....you drink too much. The people of B.A. do not believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ nor His deity, they are not believers at all, they are on a mission to smear the word of God and they are doing it because people like you are dumb enough to believe they are Christians and pay them for what they are doing.
Good thing you are banned so I don't have to ban you again.
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Of course you don't want to think about what John 3:36 says, because you know it says you are doomed to fry like an eternal sausage in Hell where sin belongs, sinner.
It is not my job to prove that you need to be saved from Hell, or that you can be saved by God the Savior, Jesus Christ.
If you will not believe, there is nothing but the fire of Hell to convince you that you need to be saved.....you will get proof.
The proof comes from God. I can tell you about it, you can believe or not believe.......but you will get the proof if you believe it or not. The way you are asking for it, the only proof you will accept is to find yourself unable to get out of the fire of Hell and that is the proof you will have if that's the way you must have it.
You don't have to take it seriously until you are in the fire.
Nobody has to take it seriously in this world...but you and everybody else will take it seriously eventually.
Really, if you have nothing more intelligent to say, I think you've said enough.
Not sure what to say to that....I took a couple years of college a couple years back and I know what they are teaching now...environmental activism, liberal protest, anti-Christian and anti Jewish, anti white (white privilege), and of course evolution and atheism along with situational ethics in place of right and wrong (objective morals). Colleges today seem to be trying to mess kids up....mental facilities try to help them get along in life.
It's good to have a B.A. or Master's these days, and speech and computer classes are good........if they weren't spending so much time telling me about white privilege and trying to provoke me to protest against society while they never stop pumping evolution in my ears I might have stayed with it. I think it's safe to say that only 1/2 of the time was actually given to real practical study and learning. The science and biology classes are a joke, only half of biology was studying biology and the other half evolution.......and the science classes were pushing overpopulation and global stability to help us go along with the idea of bringing global population down by ninety percent or so.
I suppose i would say the abrahamic god of christianity. Just because its the one which i am most familiar with. It was a joke though as i clearly do not believe a god exists nor created anything
You still are not saying what the god you are talking about is.
yes i did. i just told you
What is the abrahamic god of christianity? You say it's the one which you are most familiar with, well.....what is it?
The abrahamic god of christianity is exactly what it is, the abrahamic god of christianity. the Torah, OT, NT, and Quran/surahs. That god. If you dont know what that god is youre either willfully playing dumb or are actually dumb.
it's the one you are most familiar with, so you must be implying it is not the only god, and therefore cannot be God the Creator of All Things.
According to those who believe in him yes hes the creator of all things and the only god. i am not a believer tho.
So you are saying things which are not God cannot be God, but we can call them gods, and we can call one of them the abrahamic god?
Im saying the abrahamic version of god is the god that i was referring to. Whatever that means to you is your problem. God or gods do not exist. i really couldnt care less about whatever moot point youre trying to make
You seem to be talking about a thing called "a god". Is this thing you are talking about, which you call "the abrahmic god", the creator of all things?
If you are talking about the One referred to as God in the Bible, His name is God. He is not a god which you can create, He is the creator of all things who is there with our without your acknowledgement or imagination.
If you think God of the Bible is the same as the god of Islam, well.....maybe you are the one playing dumb.
I am not playing dumb, I'm trying to get you to see that you are arguing against things which are not God.
On this website, you are the only AveSatanas. If I said there is no real avesatanas, , I would be misrepresenting you and avoiding acknowledging you as you are AvaSatana.......you are misrepresenting God when you refer to Him as an "it" and "the only god". If you are going to argue against God, you need to use His name to make it clear who you are arguing against.
I understand you are not a believer. If you are going to argue that there is no Santa Clause, you need to make it clear that Santa Clause is who you are arguing against. How do I know you are not a closet believer in God when you avoid using His proper name when you say you don't believe in Him. Sounds like maybe you really do believe He is there and you are afraid to use His name when you talk bad about Him.
Ahhhh, at the end you finally got specific and stated "God or gods"....finally you seem to admit that there is a difference in God who created all things and things which are created and referred to as gods.....but I'm not so sure you are admitting it since you still have not made it clear that you are using God's name when you say He is not there.
did i ever claim to create god? What kind of ridiculous point are you making here?
Define God however you want and ill still argue against its existence. Ill argue against the existence of literally any god of any kind from any faith or religion.
I'm asking you to define God, so I know what you are arguing against. So far, all I get from you is that you think God is an it, which would be a created thing. Of course, "it" could be any one of or any combination of a million things....and none of them is the One who created all things....His name is God, and whatever it is which you are referring to as a god or "it" cannot be Him. Arguing that things less than God are not God seems silly.
I'm asking you to define God, so I know what you are arguing against. So far, all I get from you is that you think God is an it, which would be a created thing.
How does the word "it" in any way imply that the "it" in question was created?
Of course, "it" could be any one of or any combination of a million things....and none of them is the One who created all things....His name is God, and whatever it is which you are referring to as a god or "it" cannot be Him. Arguing that things less than God are not God seems silly.
uh, k.
Youre saying alot of words but a whole lot of nothing.
You are not posing any argument against God, you seem to be purposely avoiding acknowledging God by referring to things which are not God, things you call "it"......and you are not being clear about what "it" is. I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about, if you know what you are talking about.
Okay, so you believe there is no God.....and you believe that anything anybody thinks is God cannot be God because you believe there is no God.....so Allah, Thor, the abrahamic god....you think they are all things which are unreal and/or are not God, even if they are called God or gods. Okay.
Let's get back to the topic of the discussion, John 3:36:
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
It's saying that you will not see life and the wrath of God abides on you. It doesn't matter if you do not believe in God, you will only see death and only have God's wrath on you. If you don't care, well, then you don't care. I guess you will have to find out the hard way that dying never ends in the fire of Hell, and crying out to God won't do you any good then after He gave His Son to die for you and you chose to die for yourself.
Okay, so you believe there is no God.....and you believe that anything anybody thinks is God cannot be God because you believe there is no God.....so Allah, Thor, the abrahamic god....you think they are all things which are unreal and/or are not God, even if they are called God or gods. Okay.
Let's get back to the topic of the discussion, John 3:36:
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
It's saying that you will not see life and the wrath of God abides on you. It doesn't matter if you do not believe in God, you will only see death and only have God's wrath on you. If you don't care, well, then you don't care. I guess you will have to find out the hard way that dying never ends in the fire of Hell, and crying out to God won't do you any good then after He gave His Son to die for you and you chose to die for yourself.
Youre right i dont care.
Dont believe god exists, dont believe jesus ever existed (in the way the bible describes). dont believe in sin. dont believe in resurrection or any of the legitimacy behind the bible.
If you don't care, why do you keep engaging in these conversations? If I didn't care, I sure would not be spending time with it.
And whether or not John 3:36 means anything to you or not, it does stated that you are condemned and the fact remains that you are condemned in death.
All you seem to want to to is state that you hope to cease to exist in death, correct? Or you believe you will cease to exist in death, or you claim to know that you will cease to exist in death...correct?
Also, when a person claims to not believe in God, but they have difficulty spelling God's name correctly with a capital "G", It seems to me that they are purposely trying to ignore God while arguing against things called "god" or "gods"....so I can't quite believe them when they claim "no god-belief". I think they are fooling themselves and trying to fool others........but they don't fool me and I think that's why they so often get mad.
If you don't care, why do you keep engaging in these conversations? If I didn't care, I sure would not be spending time with it.
I dont care about bullshit semantics arguments about "oh youre not really talking about MY god because you didnt use a capital G". I care about arguing about religion because i care about the toxic effect religion has on society and the world.
And whether or not John 3:36 means anything to you or not, it does stated that you are condemned and the fact remains that you are condemned in death.
According to a book of desert scribblings. Yeah im not at all concerned with that. And im wondering why the hell anyone would be
All you seem to want to to is state that you hope to cease to exist in death, correct?
what i hope is irrelevant. What i THINK will happen is that i will cease to exist. my consciousness will stop. No heaven. no hell. no existence beyond death. I believe that because it seems like by far the most accurate and realistic answer based on all available evidence.
You are the one who hopes to exist beyond death. And you have zero evidence to substantiate it.
Or you believe you will cease to exist in death, or you claim to know that you will cease to exist in death...correct?
I dont claim to KNOW for certain. how can i be? Ive never died before. But i believe strongly based on all available evidence that you cease to persist beyond death.
Also, when a person claims to not believe in God, but they have difficulty spelling God's name correctly with a capital "G", It seems to me that they are purposely trying to ignore God while arguing against things called "god" or "gods"
Oh my god i dont give a FUCK about capitalizing a goddamn fucking letter. Grow up.
You know EXACTLY what im talking about. Stop dancing around it. Stop being cute. Youre not making any point AT ALL. Youre just crying about grammar. And its frankly really obnoxious because it distracts entirely from conversations on interesting topics.
Whether or not we persist beyond death, regardless of what you think or what i think, that is an interesting topic to discuss.
Whether or not were talking about the same god because i dont capitalize a letter is a boring and pointless fucking conversation. If you failed to capitalize the letter "u" in the word "unicorn" i wouldnt be like "idk if youre actually talking about a one-horned magical horse because you didnt capitalize the letter "U"".
Youd be like "of course im talking about that. stop being an idiot"
So for the last time, whether or not the g is capitalized YES we are talking about the same exact fucking thing. The same god. THE god. the god of the bible. the abrahamic god. the god of John 3:36.
"G" or "g" were talking about the same fucking thing.
Let that be the end of this stupid semantics bullshit once and for all.
....so I can't quite believe them when they claim "no god-belief". I think they are fooling themselves and trying to fool others........but they don't fool me and I think that's why they so often get mad
No youre just a fucking idiot trying to make a cute argument.
"Oh you said you dont believe in "god", not "God". Therefore you actually DO believe in "God" because you didnt capitalize his name"
I mean honestly thats the logic of a CHILD.
Thats like some kids mom leaving a note on the counter that says, "mike, I know you spilled my coffee. You're grounded for a day"
and then the mom comes home and finds the kid playing video games even though hes grounded and the kid says, "mom you said "mike" was grounded. My name isnt mike its Mike with a capital "M" so you didnt actually ground ME. you grounded some other mike."
That is literally the equivalent of your argument. You know im talking about the same thing as you. I know im talking about the same thing as you. Ive told you repeatedly were talking about the same thing. Everyone who reads this knows were talking about the same thing. and yet youre hiding behind the "you didnt capitalize the letter G" argument.
I dont capitalize the letter because i dont respect the concept of god enough to capitalize it every fucking time. i dont worship the fucking thing so why would i bother taking the time to capitalize the letter every time i use the word? I dont write "peace be upon him" every time i write the word muhammad. i dont capitalize it either. because i dont fucking CARE. i dont fucking revere these figures. theyre just words to me. Theyre not proper nouns and even if they were i dont care because this is the internet. I dont use half the punctuation that youre supposed to.
So yes i am mad and annoyed. Not because you made any kind of convincing argument but because like most christians you get bogged down in the most stupid, petty, childish, insulur arguments to avoid talking about anything of substance.
My mistake for being nice to you I guess. I thought maybe you could show some maturity. Thank you for proving me wrong, now I know to ban you as soon as you appear in my discussions and to read nothing you post.
It was given as law for the Jews after they were delivered from being slaves in Egypt. If Israel had kept the law given to them by God, they would never have lost their nation.
You might want to read the Bible, for the most part it is chronologically ordered. It gives a detailed history and a detailed portrayal of future events near, in, and after the end of days. Then you won't have to ask questions which you can easily find for yourself in the Bible....
This topic did not belong in this debate, that is why you got banned....and anybody who tries to keep this sidetrack going will be banned. Why don't make your own discussion about Numbers 31:9-20, and see if you can learn something....but you can learn better by applying yourself to reading and comprehension of the Bible.
The wrath of GOD abideth on Puerto Ricans, many "God fearing" in California, in Houston, in a S.C. church, in Vegas, and it looks like all over America as the "Righteous" turn their "well regulated militia" loose on their friends and family! Will GOD intervene? Why, he hasn't YET!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
So you think you have authority to ask stupid questions in the name of Hell. I think you are on your way to Hell, and any authority you have is being lost and will be gone forever. I think we had enough out of you here. Thank you for your contribution.
I didn't read your post before as I knew it would be something off the wall and stupid. Now I see that you used "hell" as a cuss word, so you are banned. If you don't get saved, God will get tired of you and you will be banished away from the living forever dying in the fire of Hell.
God is there, and keeping record of everything you say, think, or do in every moment of your time. Your judgement day is coming and you will see if you are as good as God like you think you are.