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Wow He's An Idiot
Debate Score:120
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Just Look At What This Goddamned Idiot Has Done This Time

Coronavirus: Trump's WHO de-funding 'as dangerous as it sounds'



He's halted funding for the World Health Organisation amid the worst pandemic in modern history. What kind of IDIOT does that??

Wow

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He's An Idiot

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That is messed up....................................................................................................................

Side: Wow
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
2 points

More importantly - Trump is saying that China got something wrong, and that means we should defund the WHO.

Complete craziness.

Side: Wow

For him to defund the WHO, he should prove, that would be productive. Trump does not care, about human life.

Side: Wow

I would like to point out that the World Health Organization (WHO) was responsible for releasing a bunch of quarantined dogs when it was discovered that dogs cannot contract the Corona Virus. So to recap, WHO let the dogs out!!! ;)

Side: Wow
AlofRI(3061) Clarified
1 point

Careful, I wouldn't stand too close to that fire hydrant...……………… ;-)

Side: Wow

Really ;)

Side: Wow
1 point

Good do you know how corrupt WHO is? Don't love everything Trump does but defunding them was a good move! They're good friends with the CCP!

Side: Wow
Miocene(443) Banned
0 points

It seems that he is temporarily withholding American taxpayer's dollars to an organization which deceitfully and recklessly covered up the Chinese source of Covid-19 that critically delayed the governments of the world taking the appropriate life saving measures.

America contributes some $500 million to this politically biased organization while the Chinese donate around $40 millions.

''He who pays the piper calls the tune''.

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Disputed
3 points

It seems that he is temporarily withholding American taxpayer's dollars to an organization which deceitfully and recklessly covered up the Chinese source of Covid-19 that critically delayed the governments of the world taking the appropriate life saving measures.

You are being banned for spreading disinformation.

A) There is no credible evidence the WHO covered up anything.

B) What delayed the government's response was Trump ignoring the memos he was being sent by his own health adviser:-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/donald-trump-coronavirus-memos-warning-peter-navarro

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-peter-navarro-january-memo-coronavirus-deaths-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

He was warned in January that half a million people could die if he did nothing. And he did nothing. Nothing except get angry at his own health adviser for "putting it in writing".

Side: He's An Idiot
1 point

Totally agree! WHO is a very corrupt organization! They also first said for countries not to close their borders.

Side: Wow
Mint_tea(4272) Disputed
1 point

That's like hiring a contractor to fix your house then telling them you don't like their boss so you aren't going to pay them in the middle of the job and expecting them to finish it. Foolish at best.

Side: He's An Idiot
0 points

Let me first say that Trump definitely could have handled the situation better, but he is no more at fault than others who have downplayed the virus, and the WHO is included. They praised China for their response to the coronavirus (guess lying about it mandated this praise) and took far longer than needed to declare this virus a pandemic. You don't have to take my word for it, if you want references, they're below. I see no problem with him halting funding to this organization, who has proven they cannot accomplish the job assigned to them. No, Trump is not acquitted of the blame for not responding quicker, but neither is the WHo.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/487851-china-and-the-whos-chief-hold-them-both-accountable-for-pandemic

https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/29/who-reconvene-expert-committee-coronavirus/

Side: Wow
Mint_tea(4272) Disputed
4 points

They praised China for their response to the coronavirus (guess lying about it mandated this praise) and took far longer than needed to declare this virus a pandemic.

Dude...so did Trump. He praised China saying they had been working hard to contain the virus and US greatly appreciated their efforts and transparency. Around that time he was ALSO downplaying the virus and mocking everyone who took it seriously.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736

Side: He's An Idiot
redhot(235) Disputed
2 points

and took far longer than needed to declare this virus a pandemic.

It took another three months after WHO declared the virus a global health emergency for Trump to take the drastic action WHO stipulated was necessary, so your utterly baseless conspiracy theories wouldn't exonerate Trump even if they were true (which they aren't).

Side: He's An Idiot
redhot(235) Disputed
1 point

Let me first say that Trump definitely could have handled the situation better

It isn't about handling the situation better. He refused to acknowledge there even was a situation for three months, then lied repeatedly to the public that he hadn't been informed, and now he is trying to scapegoat the WHO for his own inaction, when in actual fact the WHO declared the situation a global emergency as early as January.

others who have downplayed the virus, and the WHO is included.

False information. Banned:-

Coronavirus declared global health emergency by WHO

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51318246

Side: He's An Idiot
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
1 point

Saying the WHO is imperfect is not a reason to defund them.

Should we eliminate the presidency because Trump was imperfect?

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Clarified
2 points

Saying the WHO is imperfect is not a reason to defund them.

Should we eliminate the presidency because Trump was imperfect?

These guys are just like the Nazis. Whenever they get caught doing something wrong they go on the offensive and start trying to pin the blame somewhere else.

Side: Wow
-1 points

It's not a danger at all, except to WHO's cronies who get US money. The WHO downplayed the risks and mislead the public. Chief Tedro is owned by the CCP lock, stock and barrel. This is where the real danger is. He's doing their bidding, not the worlds.

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Disputed
3 points

The WHO downplayed the risks

No, TRUMP downplayed the risks you barefaced liar. The WHO had nothing to do with Trump's lack of action, and now you are trying to make them into a scapegoat for your own fucking incompetence.

You truly are a disgusting excuse for a man. You are a coward and a liar.

Side: He's An Idiot
redhot(235) Disputed
2 points

It's not a danger at all

Shut up liar. That is exactly what Trump said in January you lying little scumbag:-

A reporter asks if there are worries about a pandemic. Trump responds:

“No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control.”

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2020/we-have-it-totally-under-control-a-timeline-of-president-donald-trumps-response-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

I hate liars. Gtfo please.

Side: He's An Idiot
BrontosGhost(629) Disputed Banned
1 point

I hate liars.

We already knew you hated yourself Nom. There's no need for you to advertise it. Perhaps you should reference basic psychology if you ever want to understand why. Hey look, I did the work for you. Enjoy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201911/five-ways-self-dislike-runs-destructively-in-the-background?amp

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Disputed
2 points
Side: He's An Idiot
2 points

March 17: Asked if the World Health Organization had offered detection tests to the United States, Trump said WHO had not, and that the WHO coronavirus test “was a bad test.” FALSE. WHO said three independent labs had validated the test, and the White House coordinator for coronavirus response said she assumed the WHO test is effective.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2020/we-have-it-totally-under-control-a-timeline-of-president-donald-trumps-response-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Side: He's An Idiot
Mint_tea(4272) Disputed
2 points

By that logic Trump downplayed the risk and mislead the public so let's take him out of office NOW. No? Not the right time for that? Same for de-funding WHO in the MIDDLE of a worldwide pandemic. Whatever your belief is on how WHO is run, Trump needs to step up, take the blame for the part he played and stop acting like an ass.

Side: He's An Idiot
AlofRI(3061) Clarified
1 point

WHO … downplayed the risks and mislead the public?? (No pun intended ;-), but:

"It's just like the flu." "It'll magically go away when the weather warms up!" (So, how come they have it in Iraq, Iran, the Congo, Central America?? We have sent MILLIONS of masks and PPE to the states, they have all they need! Somebody is stealing them! WE HAVE YOUR BACK! (Sort of … leading from behind?? :-)! This after he dispersed the agency set up by Obama & friends to be prepared FOR just THIS! HE'S A GODDAMNED IDIOT!

Another "prepared mind" … by FOX & Co.!

Side: Wow
-1 points

Just Look At What This Goddamned Idiot Has Done This Time

What do you mean Nom? You said America wasn't the super power in the world, so just have Europe and China fund it buddy.

Why would we want to send millions of dollars to a group who was either wrong on everything, making them literally completely useless, or they're China's puppet to the point they'll cover up a virus long enough for it to spread across the entire globe?

I'd say "do tell", but what the hell for? You don't even understand what per capita means or how or even why it's applied, making your comprehensive abilities less than the common jungle chimpanzee.

So let's review. You said Trump should have acted earlier and done more. That's your position.

The WHO's position was?

WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1ZX1H3

Chew on it a minute buddy. Come back and tell us how it tasted.

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Disputed
1 point

What do you mean Nom? You said America wasn't the super power in the world

LOL! Yes buddy, but you claimed that cheese was going to go up in value!!!

If you don't want to discuss the subject, simply fuck off and don't say anything. I DIDN'T say "America wasn't the super power in the world" and, even if I did, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the topic of this debate. You are just a mentally unwell extreme right wing sociopath who does not understand how a debate works.

Side: He's An Idiot
6 points

He's taking money away from the world organization that would be investing in a vaccine FOR this disease while accusing THEM of doing EXACTLY WHAT HE DID! He's using that to cover up HIS mistakes … and convince his "propagandized base" that HE … wouldn't DO such a thing! HE DID!

Yes, HE'S AN IDIOT, leading idiots! :-(

Side: He's An Idiot
Rusticus(1766) Disputed
2 points

He's not an idiot he's a psychopath and so is anyone who thinks he's ok.

This country is almost half crazy.

Mass psychosis.

Side: Wow
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
2 points

There's no reason he can't be both...

Side: Wow
redhot(235) Disputed
1 point

He's not an idiot he's a psychopath and so is anyone who thinks he's ok

They aren't mutually exclusive terms. Trump is not an intellectually smart man. What he lacks in intellect he tries to make up for in brute dishonesty. He's a con artist. And, as the name implies, that is a form of art rather than a branch of science and/or academia.

Side: He's An Idiot
AlofRI(3061) Clarified
1 point

O.K., But I STILL think he's an idiot ….. respectfully speaking. ;-)

Side: Wow
Chinaman(2930) Clarified
1 point

The Socialist comes along as the Good Parrot to support the WHO.

Side: Wow
Chinaman(2930) Clarified
1 point

CNN’s Anderson Cooper appeared to downplay the novel coronavirus on-air March 4, telling viewers that they “should be more concerned about the flu.”

Cooper spoke to CNN’s chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta about the novel coronavirus on “Anderson Cooper 360.” During the segment, Cooper told viewers that the flu is deadlier than the novel coronavirus and urged people to be more worried about that.

Side: Wow
Chinaman(2930) Clarified
1 point

Short memory there Little Socialist Gurl ?

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

Side: Wow
1 point

Do you think 12,469 deaths at the end of an outbreak is better or worse than 34,562 deaths before the peak?

Side: Wow
4 points

He's focusing on trying to deflect blame away from himself to protect himself politically, rather than on the health and well-being of his own citizens!!

This guy is a monster. That's exactly what he is. A monster.

Side: He's An Idiot
1 point

look at what this goddamn idiot has done this time

Hello red,

What’s nuts here, I mean truly scary, is that irrespective of his idiotic handling of everything that has come his way, his approval rating was 46% when he took office and it’s 46% now.

excon

Side: He's An Idiot
BurritoLunch(4277) Clarified
1 point

What’s nuts here, I mean truly scary, is that irrespective of his idiotic handling of everything that has come his way, his approval rating was 46% when he took office and it’s 46% now.

Yeah, but don't worry. He has the lowest average approval rating of any president in the last 80 years. His high spot was 49 percent and even Nixon managed 66.

Side: Wow