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Pay Evil Unto Evil Leave them Alone!
Debate Score:24
Arguments:22
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Justice driven by Rage is really Rage disguised as Justice

The recent case of Amanda Todd presents a very intresting case: the former classmates who had tormented Amanda now find themselves on the recieving end of cyber-bullying from millions of people. The life of the man who took and posted the infamous pictures is at risk as Anonymous itself is trying to hunt him down.

But does it help?

It does make logical sense to carry this justice out. The bullies now find themselves they bullied, and by thousands of people at that. If the tormentor is tramples to death, it serves as a very clear warning for others not to try the same.

But is it motivated by true justice, or revenge?

Pay Evil Unto Evil

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Leave them Alone!

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Bullying should not be a major crime just because some girl put her boobs online and killed herself over it. My friend passed out at a party and was raped, she hasn't killed herself and hasn't taken legal action against every single person she suspects of raping her.

Side: Leave them Alone!
FreeWill(120) Disputed
1 point

She's not a regular human. If what she's true, she's an incredibly strong one. But most of us can't handle that kind of pressure, and most of us would certainly be pursuing legal action.

And I'm not asking it be made a crime at all. I'm asking is it right if the bullies were bullied back?

Side: Pay Evil Unto Evil
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She is a regular human, she is actually a normal human, the media gives everyone the illusion that most people are as weak as Amanda Todd. She did pursue in legal action, after she knew who it was, she didn't sew everyone at the party.

It is right that bullies be bullied back, however, being "bullied" by the state with fines, threats and jail time is MUCH more serious than people teasing her over her boobs.

Side: Leave them Alone!
Melanin(84) Disputed
1 point

You are very ignorant as to what actually happened to the girl. She was blackmailed by some guy, and because she turned it down, he sent her nude pictures to everyone, and they bullied her further in school. She developed panic attacks, anxiety disorders, etc... then when she moved, he did it AGAIN, and she lost everyone AGAIN. she was alone and harassed, and lived a hell of a life.

She wasn't crazy, or sensitive, for taking her life. It wasn't some kind of minor experience. I'd say you have to actually EXPERIENCE/LIVE THROUGH IT to understand just what sort of hell it is, but I haven't and I still understand that even what I imagine isnt as bad as the real thing. Maybe you need a dose? If it was your daughter, you wouldn't think it was a minor thing. Oh wow, now being raped is a minor thing to you? Not everyone who gets continuously psychologically tortured kills themselves, sure, but that doesn't mean it's MINOR.

This isn't to say that I believe in hard core jail, or trampling justice... I just don't like it when people say it's no big deal and act like the victim was just a pansy. Even if someone IS and an experience is minor, yknow how sensitive they are, and you did it anyway. If seeing a picture of a bull causes crazy panic attacks and severe depression for days, and you know that, well doggon it, you are a torturer to do it to them! Even if it was just a picture of something! People shouldn't have to immediately buff up (it doesn't work like that... trust me) or be blamed when they get hurt. Where's her sympathy?

Side: Pay Evil Unto Evil
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I don't know which this is, but I think it's the side of just leave the guy alone. This debate is spreading misinformation because Anonymous has put a disclaimer saying that the information is NOT to be used to force vigilante justice onto the person, and it's more so that the system knows who did it, but they'd prefer not to be in contact with the police, because, well... they're Anonymous ffs. People should know better than to actually try to do things to him. It's just going to bother the police with more work.

Side: Leave them Alone!