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Reality is subjective. So is faith. I quote Kierkegaard. "Abraham believed, and therefore he was young; for he who always hopes for the best becomes old, deceived by life, and he who is always prepared for the worst becomes old prematurely; but he who retains faith retains eternal youth. "
My personal reasons for belief (in whatever) come from direct experience with something larger than myself, the need to fill the emptiness in my heart with something that is not egotistical nor fleeting (though, granted, self-serving, but what the fuck isn't?)
But in my opinion (because that's what all of this is, all it ever has been), what you believe in doesn't matter so much as if you believe in something...whether that's yourself, reason, God, love, the fucking RNC for what it's worth-- without faith in something we end up finding no reason to continue living.
And as far as "critical thinking" goes, you can poke logical holes into any theory worth a grain of salt. Religion and reason aren't anywhere near each other, especially as opposites. It would be like Robert Downey Jr trying to have a conversation with an ancient Sumerian. It's just different ways of thinking.
Reality is subjective. So is faith. I quote Kierkegaard. "Abraham believed, and therefore he was young; for he who always hopes for the best becomes old, deceived by life, and he who is always prepared for the worst becomes old prematurely; but he who retains faith retains eternal youth. "
My personal reasons for belief (in whatever) come from direct experience with something larger than myself, the need to fill the emptiness in my heart with something that is not egotistical nor fleeting (though, granted, self-serving, but what the fuck isn't?)
But in my opinion (because that's what all of this is, all it ever has been), what you believe in doesn't matter so much as if you believe in something...whether that's yourself, reason, God, love, the fucking RNC for what it's worth-- without faith in something we end up finding no reason to continue living.
And as far as "critical thinking" goes, you can poke logical holes into any theory worth a grain of salt. Religion and reason aren't anywhere near each other, especially as opposites. It would be like Robert Downey Jr trying to have a conversation with an ancient Sumerian. It's just different ways of thinking.
Abraham heard voices in his head telling him to cut his penis off and kill his son... I'm pretty sure that this is a case of a paranoid schizophrenia...
Abraham, did not cut his entire penis off, he only cut a small part of skin on it, it is scientifically proved that this part forms germs. and about his son, Allah told him through a vision to test his patience that he should kill his son, and when he wanted to kill his son, the knife kept turning the other way, and then Allah descended on him from the sky a very large sheep to show him that he does not have to kill his son anymore, instead he had to kill the sheep. on the other hand, his son told him and insisted that his father (Abraham) must do what Aallah told him to do and he was okay with it.
Off course you cannot find miracles today, because we know why rocks falls from sky, why are there sun eclipses, why floods happens, how weather works...
We are also closing people like Abraham, Jesus, Mohamed in to special (Mental) institutions.
You would be surprised how many prophets and people hearing god are in there.
how can you close people who are already dead in a mental institution? well, we know how floods happen...but can you explain how the sea split in half at the time when Allah saved Mousa from the faroun? how about when the ground underneath our feet split open and flipped upon kawm loot then changed into a lake that is now called loot lake?
Allah is a name, god is an adjictve...you hear people saying the god of the sun, moon, wind...Acording to muslims, we have only one Allah. and we should always call him by his name 'Allah'
shahood yehwah is a new religion, and among all the religions, there is no name such as yehwah, and Allah, is a name found in all the religions. with all due respect, that information is wrong. There are 99 names for Allah, and Allah is the first..
Don't you mean god as ALLAH is the arabic word for god? So where did the sheep come from it was just magically there? Also it is true that he did cut the foreskin (circumcision) but how do you justify the existence of Allah
umm no, God is an adjective. Allah is the name used in all languages...the sheep was descended from Allah to Ibrahim, that was to show how Allah tests every human's power in faith yet at the same time is merciful. so after Allah tested Ibrahim's faith, he sent him the lamb, to show him that he does not have to kill his son. it was a miracle when the sheep was descended so technically it was not magically there....whereas for the last part, how do i explain the existence of Allah, ok ill try to justify it all.
Qur'an speaks about hundreds of scientific facts that were not known at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an. Only three facts was the probability of getting a correct answer is 0.0017%. It is impossible for a human to guess all the scientific facts in the Quran without one mistake and that alone is enough to prove to the person who has logic that this Qur'an can only be a revelation from Allah. The Qur'an had mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before their discovery, {In the time the Koran came down, people thought that the earth was flat. There are many options other than this option it is possible to be square, triangular, rectangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, spherical ........ Etc., and now assume that there are 30 different option to the shape of the earth. Koran said the correct answer is that the spherical shape of the earth. If so, the chance of guessing that this will be true is 30/1 (ie, one of thirty).
Moon could be a silver lining in itself or that it reflects the light of the body of another. Koran contains the correct answer is that it reflects the light of the body of another. If this so, the chance of guessing that this will be true is 2/1 (ie: one of the two).
Quran also mentions that every living thing is made up of water (ie: must contain a percentage of water). It Can be that every living thing is made of wood, iron, silver, gold, oil, water ....... Etc.. And that there is no transfer 10,000 option. But the Koran stated the correct answer is that every living thing contains a percentage of water . this guess is the opportunity to get the correct answer is 10000/1.
The famous philosopher Francis Bacon: "a small part of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes a person who believes in Allah." Today, scientists are not removing (getting rid of) Allah but removing Allah's models. This statement has the same meaning as the first part of the certificate is no god but God ( لا إله إلا الله)
from the Koran, Allah says: (We shall show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it is clear to them that right not enough that thy Witness over all things). {سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي الْآفَاقِ وَفِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ }
Hypothetical: i make a book packed with scientific foreknoledge, yet also claims that there are many gods, according to what you wrote, i am therethore right about said gods.
I agree with what your saying, but you listed a few things and implied others: "...whether that's yourself, reason, God, love, the fucking RNC..."
So why choose God over yourself, love or reason? Those other 3 things seem to be more interesting and "useful". What if you spent your "god" time believing in those other things (or focusing on them more) instead? Imagine if everyone in the world believed in "love" instead of a god. Seems like the world would be much much better place?
Faith is not rational, it is based on reasoning. It is just how your brain works, what it thinks, not a conscious decision that you make. We think of all of this bullshit as to why we each believe certain things, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of our decisions are irrational and somewhat random.