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Lady Of Guadalupe

I have a debate with Centifolia about the painting, by creating new debate I would like to invite more people to this...dialog.

 

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Claims are that the painting has been created from materials that are not presented on Earth.

What laboratory discovered them?

What are the properties of those new materials?

I can't fine any information.

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Claim is that by using stethoscope you can hear baby heartbeats.

Why there is no independent record of it?

Wouldn't that be awesome evidence for god?

Side: Fake
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Claim is that by using light towards picture eyes you can see that retina reacts like real human's one.

Why there is no independent record of it?

Wouldn't that be awesome evidence for god?

Side: Fake
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It was tested by NASA.

Why there is no record of it?

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Side: Fake
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Why it was "examined" by, eye doctor, dentist, priests and ant scientist, instead of some independent material laboratory?

Side: Fake
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Why it was not offered to examination by "Randi's Institute" who offers $1 000 000 for any proven miracle.

Side: Fake
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Monsignor Guillermo Schulenberg"" man who was for 33 years protector of the shrine with the painting said about the painter:

"I have spoken with many historians. I examined dozens and dozens of documents in the Vatican, in Spain, in Mexico... to contest the existence of Juan Diego is absurd,"

Margaret Hebblethwaite, a theologist and expert on the Vatican and Latin America, sided with the prelates. "I think that they are almost certainly right, historically. Making Diego a saint is just storing up trouble for the future."

Mr Schulenburg, who guarded the shrine for 33 years, claimed three years ago that the miracle was symbolic rather than literal.

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These to people are not same, just same name:

http://radar.jpl.nasa.gov/people/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowPerson&pplID;=81

Physicist working for JPL-NASA on Radar systems, publications mainly on radar measuring of planets.

http://gap.entclub.org/taxonomists/Callahan/index.html

Entymologist (specialize on ants), publications mailny on ants, worms, healing stones, magic. This is the one that "examined" the Painting

http://www.oakwilt.com/field_report9.html debunking of Callaghan

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