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Left wing politicians like to create bad situations to pretend to be the solution

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TruthMachine(91) Disputed
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Why do you refuse to take on the points about the left promoting chopping kids' penises off to prove a little girl resides within their 3 year old male bodies?

Side: Clever tactic
TruthMachine(91) Disputed
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Reichstag fire

German history

Why are you referencing what Orwell said was the same as Communism of which you promote? Why burrito? Just why?

Side: Clever tactic
AntiBurrito(94) Disputed
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Oh sure buddy. It's the "left" that does that.

Goebells said Nazism was Communism. Why are you a part of an ideology no different than Nazism?

https://www.noisyroom.net/blog/howare1.jpg

Side: Clever tactic
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Goebells said Nazism was Communism.

Shut your stupid, idiot face.

Fascism is often considered to be a reaction to communist and socialist uprisings in Europe.[24] Italian Fascism, founded and led by Benito Mussolini, took power after years of leftist unrest led many conservatives to fear that a communist revolution was inevitable. Nazi Germany's massacres and killings included the persecution of communists[25][26] and among the first to be sent to concentration camps.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communism#Fascism andNazism

When Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, his propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels set up the "Anti-Komintern". It published massive amounts of anti-Bolshevik propaganda, with the goal of demonizing Bolshevism and the Soviet Union before a worldwide audience.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communism#Fascism andNazism

Because Nazism co-opted the popular success of socialism and Communism among working people while simultaneously promising to destroy Communism and offer an alternative to it, Hitler's anti-communist program allowed industrialists with traditional conservative views (tending toward monarchism, aristocracy and laissez-faire capitalism) to cast their lot with and help underwrite the Nazi rise to power.[118] [A 13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PoliticalviewsofAdolfHitler#Anti-communism

The Communist Party of Germany (KPD) was the largest Communist Party in the world outside of the Soviet Union, until it was destroyed by the Nazis in 1933.[271] In the 1920s and early 30s, Communists and Nazis often fought each other directly in street violence, with the Nazi paramilitary organizations being opposed by the Communist Red Front and Anti-Fascist Action. After the beginning of the Great Depression, both Communists and Nazis saw their share of the vote increase. While the Nazis were willing to form alliances with other parties of the right, the Communists refused to form an alliance with the Social Democratic Party of Germany, the largest party of the left.[272] After the Nazis came to power, they quickly banned the Communist Party under the allegation that it was preparing for revolution and that it had caused the Reichstag fire.[273] Four thousand KPD officials were arrested in February 1933, and by the end of the year 130,000 communists had been sent to concentration camps.[274]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Anti-communism

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TruthMachine(91) Disputed
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But, Stalin wanted to crush all left-wing parties who were not the Communist party; this led to a civil war amongst the Republican movement in Spain. Orwell got caught up in this and it made him really disgusted with Stalin and the Communist party.

“the Communists stood not upon the extreme Left, but upon the extreme right. In reality this should come as no surprise, because of the tactics of the Communist parties elsewhere.”

George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia

https://www.biographyonline.net/socialism-george-orwell/

http://www.george-orwell.org/HomagetoCatalonia/4.html

Side: Clever tactic
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“the Communists stood not upon the extreme Left, but upon the extreme right. In reality this should come as no surprise, because of the tactics of the Communist parties elsewhere.”

This is absolutely true and you are trying to exploit a misuse of language. What the author should have said was, "those claiming to be Communists", because obviously Communism is on the left. Communism being on the left is a non-debatable fact.

What Orwell is saying is that fascists were claiming to be Communists in order to dismantle existing state power structures and set up their own with themselves at the helm. He was writing about the name Communism being abused by those on the right who were seeking to acquire totalitarian power. Ironic really, given that's exactly what you are doing. Abusing the name Communism to try to make us believe it's on the opposite pole to where it actually is.

You see, it is extremely easy to illustrate what a liar you are simply by pointing out that you spend your waste of an adult life attacking the left every minute of every day. If you thought Communism was actually on the right you would be attacking the right and not the left. Unless, of course, you are telling us that you are a Communist. Is that what you are trying to tell us, you pointless fascist imbecile? That you are a Commie?

Side: Insidious
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Right-wing politicians like to IGNORE a bad situation and pretend they've already solved (ignored) it, While WE, the PEOPLE have to live with the "bad situation". Clever tactic! (But so dumb WE, the people, don't get a BIT of help out of them .... while the righties make off with whatever money they can make off "the bad situation! :-(

Side: Clever tactic