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Lenin was ultimately fighting for good

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He was fighting for power at any cost. People think Stalin tricked Lenin into exiling Trotsky etc but it was actually both. Stalin did often engineer rivalries with Lenin that suited him, as Lenin's secretary, making people miss crucial events by telling them wrong times or even cancelling meetings that they assume Lenin chose not to turn up to, nonetheless Lenon himself was ruthless with rivals and this is what Stalin capitalised on. (Capitalised, ooh la la)

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moveit(44) Clarified
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He was fighting for power at any cost.

You don't think he was genuinely fighting for communism, but power for it's own sake?

Side: yes
SunTzuv2(52) Clarified
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Admittedly, bit of both.

Side: yes
seanB(950) Disputed
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These types of questions are always a bit loaded. As Churchill said: "history is written by the victors".

Unfortunately for Stalin, he wasn't a victor in the eyes of "history". As per Churchill's quote, you can see the conundrum in that semantic.

That being said, if we are unbiased enough to view history with clarity, Churchill sanctioned the deaths of just as many as Stalin did. The only difference is that "society" tended to agree with Churchill's aims more readily. Whose end justifies the means the most?

That's the question humanity asks in war. And unfortunately, most "normal" people are much too woefully under-qualified and under-informed to answer with any authority.

Sometimes, might just tends to equal right, even if it is wrong.

Side: yes