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The drinking age causes more problems than it helps - I think a society of normalizing drinking is better - people could drink with their parents, but it would be no different from any other activity. There would be less binge drinking or "drinking because its enticing," no fear of reporting alcohol-related injuries "because I'll go to jail for drinking," no more drinking in dangerous places "because I'm not allowed to drink and can't drink in supervised places"...
Um no, someone's parents would let their baby get alcohol poisoning, and they'd be the ones arrested for the poisoning, just like any other kind - whether its allergies, or feeding a newborn honey knowing they can't have it, etc. It's neglect or abuse.
A drinking age existing doesn't prevent that - people would let their babies have a drink only in hiding, whether there's adrinking age or not, and they'd get in trouble for the poisoning, drinking age or not.
when a person (or body) chooses to hurt (in a physical manner or theft of property) another body they should be punished for THAT crime. If a person decides to rape someone while they are intoxicated, you don't go searching for some inanimate object, past victimization or substance to blame ( i.e. past rape, alcohol etcetera.) You blame the person who made the CHOICE to rape. If alcohol was outlawed altogether do you honestly think there would be no car accidents, rapes, youths that drink or alcohol poisoning?
Impossible? You mean like it was impossible to get alcohol during prohibition? Coke, heroine, acid and meth are all illegal, are they impossible to get? Are there no heroine overdoses?
If a law in enforced it should be done so with 100% effect. Otherwise it's a faulty law.
This is why I'm an anarchist, since any law can be broken, all laws are faulty and pointless to have but whatever.
If you wish to have a government and laws, then alcohol must be prohibited and done to effectively, you can't justify it being legal by saying that it will have loopholes, every law has loopholes but if that's the truth then when the first man was caught for murder, torture or rape those laws should have been abolished.
Your system of reasoning is as weak as your ability to form opinions successfully, but that's because one relies on the other.
There should be as few laws as possible. Laws do not stop bad people from doing what they want they only allow others to punish them and remove them from society when they are broken. If everything is illegal everyone can be punished whenever government finds it convenient. Physical harm to another person and theft of property are the only things that should be punished and the only things that should be against the law. No one has the moral superiority to dictate and enforce morality on others save for God.
There you go insulting me again, does that make you feel like a big man?
Read what you just wrote and now tell me why the drinking age should be lowered to sixteen.
By the way if you ever say to me that God is moral authority over Satan one more time I will just ignore you. Don't speak of God in such a high light he is the putrid repugnant bastard of our universe.
Again, I don't think there should be ANY age limit to drinking. Drinking itself only hurts the drinker if even that. There should not be ANY laws against DRINKING anything. I am not religious, I don't believe in God in any conventional form, but I recognize that others do and I (unlike you) do not hate them for it.
I don't know how you can call yourself an atheist and then refer to God as if he exists, and I quote "He (God) is the putrid repugnant bastard of our universe". Sounds to me like you DO believe in him.
I also dont know how you can call yourself a anarchist and be for laws, such as a drinking age limit. Do you know what atheists and anarchist mean?
I am not an idiotic atheist, I am an Agnostic Theistic Satanist. I know exactly what my belief means it is very identical to LaVeyan Satanism apart from it really believes in God (of some kind) and a Devil of some kind but it is agnostic in that it accepts that they might not exist just as much as I or you might not exist..
I think that if you have a government, you should make justified and sensible laws. Otherwise you might as well not have a government.
Rape, by definition is force. You cannot force a person to do something and still claim the forced had a choice. therefor, the forcer has no right to rape another even if its what they want to do with their body. want doesn't justify force.
I mentioned Germany, a European country. Therefore one continent applies. It's an island thing. If I was from Madagascar, Africa would be 'the continent'.
Yeah, no, you're ignorant. In norcal people call SF "the city," even though there's a bunch of major cities around norcal and around SF, for that matter. If you lived on an island off the coast of a continent, I see no reason why you couldn't refer to that particular landmass as "the continent" even though it's technically a continent.
Interesting. Well I hope you are consistent with that, at least. For example, when you want to go for a drive you drive in "a" car, not "the" car. When you're feeding your pet, you say you're feeding "a" pet, not "the" pet.
If you lived in Berkeley and you said "I'm off to the college," it would be quite evident to anyone in that area you were taking about UCB. You don't have to own the object/place in question. It's a matter of context. She said "the continent" when talking about Germany... how much more context do you need to figure out which continent she was talking about? How many other continents have a country called Germany on them? Come on, dude.
If anything, it's you who is ignorant for not getting that in the first place, and it's you who is arrogant trying to correct her for using a commonly used colloquialism with proper context.
Nope, because most sixteen year olds are just getting their drivers license. Adding liquor to inexperienced drivers is a recipe for death and stupidity. Also I only have a year and a month left until I'm legal, so everyone else should have to wait. Yes, my birthday is in a month ;)
I agree. Also, isn't there a reason that the drinking age is 21 due to brain development? Alcohol damages brain cells and those kids need them at school and on the SAT'S and other exams.
Also, isn't there a reason that the drinking age is 21 due to brain development?
Hahahahaha silly you. Our government doesn't allow/ban things based on the factual results of scientific studies; that research came later, after the fact.
No the federal government threatened the states into passing the age 21 restriction.
They picked 21 because according to 600+ year old English Common Law you could get knighted at 21.
That's about how much sense our government makes when it comes to the war on drugs.
What is with people on this site being like a bunch of drunken teenagers smoking weed all the time?! I thought that is the mindless norm from which we are to be considered separated and more elite.
You sound like you belong to that other debating site, where the people are too serious. Lol But seriously, most people on here are joking. Not about doing those things, but about it being so serious.
I used to go on debate.org and have been IP banned and been threatened with persecution if I ever am caught making another account on it because apparently I was too aggressive a debater for their liking and the fact that I posted sex toy images didn't help my case.
Alcohol affects your brain, in some permanent ways. the brain isn't fully done developing until approximately the age of 26, so by drinking before then you are ruining your brain and preventing it from ever fully developing. Since I know it's an unsound argument to try to raise it, until 26 I settle at the age it's at, and not a year lower.
And your brain starts failing and decaying around 45-50... should drinking restricted after those years, as well? If teens cant handle it because they don't have full brain capacity, neither should middle age people and up because they don't have full brain capacity, either.
Not because they lack the capacity, but because they are ruining their ability to ever have the capacity.
Let me explain better sorry.
Until the brain is fully formed, you are ruining the chance to have it fully formed by drinking. Not that you don't have the sense.
The brain will be destroyed in small bits by the alcohol so if my argument were that they don't understand what they are doing, it'd be defeated by drinking alcohol in the 1st place.
My argument is for ever having a fully developed brain, just to experience life with it.
After the brains start decaying, you already had a fully developed brain you have had a chance to experience life with it, we should give everyone a chance to experience life with a fully developed brain.
No they shouldn't lower the drinking age to 16 because that is when most teenagers are getting their driver's licenses and it would cause more deaths because of the drunk driving.
As several others have said, I don't condone the idea of making the age of drinking and driving the same. AT LEAST let kids become moderately experienced drivers before they decide to try alcohol (though they should't be driving drunk in the first place).
