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14
Yep No
Debate Score:32
Arguments:23
Total Votes:42
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Men who propose but make no move towards a wedding are using the ring to mark territory

Yep

Side Score: 18
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No

Side Score: 14
2 points

Marriage in general is out of selfishness and pride. The idea that this person is for you and for you only. They must sacrifice for the sake of "we're in love".

Love doesn't eliminate sexual desire for others. It merely says "you can't act on those desires". It's useless.

Side: Yep

Wow...you took the words right out of my mouth, very well put. :)

Side: Yep
churchmouse(328) Disputed
0 points

What emptiness you exhibit. You must have been hurt very badly...feel sorry for you.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

How is honesty, integrity and so forth empty ?

Side: Yep
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
1 point

Interestingly, I have never been "hurt" from a love affair or something similar.

I've merely been an observer. Sort of like a sober person who watches a bunch of drug addicts. Sure, I partake in drugs, but I never let it dictate my life.

Side: Yep

That's an ass hole thing to do. Why doesn't he just pee on her?

I guess the girl could just say...., "You know...., my wedding ring is going to be brand spanking new and I want this engagement ring to be in pristine condition so that I can wear them together, so..., I'm just going to store it away until that day" ;)

Side: Yep

Weddings are useless. Men propose with no intentions of actual marriage because they believe in love but not marriage. Marriage is quaint idea, but it intentions are only for women.

Side: Yep
Liber(1730) Disputed
1 point

Weddings are useless.

Marriage should be useless - if not for the legal importance associated with marriage.

Men propose with no intentions of actual marriage because they believe in love but not marriage.

Sex. Not love. Lust, sex, and the desire to own the object of his desire.

Side: No
churchmouse(328) Disputed
1 point

No man is forced to get married. They don't need marriage to have sex, not today they don't.

If you love someone, really love them agape love......you don't want anyone else.

To bad most of you men have never experiences this before.

Side: Yep
Daiyanna34(15) Disputed
1 point

Weddings ARE NOT useless!They have a purpose in life is supposedly have a life with the one you truly believe is THE ONE! Even if it may be that they only desire to own something then they can own a dog!

Side: Yep
churchmouse(328) Disputed
1 point

Wow.....what shallow men we have on this site.

Any man that would do what you are implying....is not worth being with. Boy there are a lot of weddings going on......really means boy are men stupid.

Marriage is a wonderful institution. You must also have been hurt very badly...that or been marriage 4 or 5 times.

To say only women want marriage.....LOL

Side: No
1 point

What do you mean by marking territory? I don't get this debate.

Side: No
1 point

Yeah, I ran out of space in the line, sorry.

I mean, he's just making sure everyone knows this girl is taken and that no one else can have her, but he isn't going to make the legal commitment of marriage. Marking his territory with an engagement ring, shows that she's taken.

Side: No

Did this happen to you? Do you want to get married? What does marriage mean to you? What does it mean to him?

Side: No

Marking their territory...you know like pissing on a tree.

Side: No

Sometimes, weddings are expensive. Sometimes, we're so in the moment we forget about the long-term. Sometimes, the only thing we need to love you is you, not a ritual. Sometimes, we're jealous and scared to loose you. Sometimes, we have commitment issues we want to power through one event at a time.

Sometimes, we want to mark you as ours and us as yours.

I think the real question is whether or not it's truly wrong to do any of these things.

My answer is no.

If we engage you, it's for a good reason.

It's when we don't engage you but still stay with you for a long time that you should be worried and suspicious of foul-play.

And even then, it doesn't necessarily mean we're using you.

Side: No