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Mis using the phrase race card is racist. Denial of racism is the new racism

Whenever people talk about racism, pretend it isnt happening and use the word race card.

 

Then america can pretend it isnt going on racist, while the rest of the world laughs at its racism. 

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see above. the same people doing the racism are then magically invoking a two worded slogan to mis characterise the accuser and pretend the complaint generically has no merit or doesnt exist.

be racist and then act as the judge of whether the complainant has merit. without any actual discussion.

ridiculous.

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2 points

I'd be hard pressed to find someone outside of the deep south who denies racism in the US.

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2 points

We have a black president. This is used as a way to say there isn't racism outside of the south.

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pakicetus(1455) Disputed
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I don't recall ever seeing someone make such a statement. But i wouldn't be surprised.

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GodBlessUSA(80) Disputed
1 point

How does stating "There's racism out there" solve ANYTHING?!?

Side: it is
2 points

I wouldn't say it's the new racism, I'd just say it's another form of racism that has been around as long as average racism. If it's racist to deny a person a job based on their race, it is also racist to lie to them and say that they are the only ones making it about race when it in fact was from the start.

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How is it racist to say that people should not make false accusations of racism? I was called a racist when I am not racist by people on Twitter. I cant be a racist because I believe we are all one human race. These divisions are man made, not God made.

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DrawFour(2662) Disputed
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You just proved my point. The people who called you a racist, were probably racists themselves who distorted the definition to encompass those who neglected them for whatever reason.

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How is it racist to say that people should not make false accusations of racism? I was called a racist when I am not racist by people on Twitter. I cant be a racist because I believe we are all one human race. These divisions are man made, not God made.

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pakicetus(1455) Disputed
1 point

we are all one human race.

Debatable, considering the 5% denisovan admixture in Melanesians and other Australoids. As well as the 4-6% neanderthal admixture found in caucasoids.

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DrawFour(2662) Disputed
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Bringing God to a debate that is not specifically about religion is a bad idea. For one, you're basically admitting you have no proof, and you just believe that you are correct. Which is literally not debating, it's just saying a potentially stupid (as religious opinions often are) opinion.

Now you can say our divisions are man made, and are not God made, but I assure you of this, and you can go test it whenever or look up any of the numerous videos or scientific reports if you'd like, white people are genetically different than black people, and than oriental people. Our bone structures for one, is a physical part of ourselves that we are born with, and can not change on a whim without drastic surgeries. Now let's say I believed in God. With what I just said about our bone structures being traits we are born with, that would mean this is not a God made difference (division) this is a God made difference. Now going back to the reality, that God probably doesn't exist, I can say that these are not even God made differences, these are nature made differences, in the sense that they were crafted from the way humans adapted to nature. Races of people who live in areas where the sun shines more directly, are often darker tones than races who don't. This is why black people have a way lower risk of skin cancer from the sun, and pretty much no need for uv protection from creams or the like.

We are different. Denying that doesn't make you a better person, it makes you a fool.

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1 point

Mis using the phrase race card is racist.

How does accusing someone of making a knee jerk remark about racism make that person a racist?

Denial of racism is the new racism

No, it is not. Simply because someone denies the existence of racism in their country does not necessarily mean that they themselves are racist.

Whenever people talk about racism, pretend it isnt happening and use the word race card.

This is a catastrophic generalization.

For instance, I'm talking about racism right now, I have neither claimed nor pretended that it doesn't exist, and have not accused you or anyone else of pulling the "race card".

Then america can pretend it isnt going on racist, while the rest of the world laughs at its racism.

This is true, but bending over backwards in order to avoid being perceived as a racist hasn't been doing us any favors either.

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I applaud your logic. Good job. I like that you asked How does accusing someone of making a knee jerk remark about racism make that person a racist? as well as saying No, it is not. Simply because someone denies the existence of racism in their country does not necessarily mean that they themselves are racist. good job.

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johnny5(135) Disputed
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its not logic, its more sweeping it under the carpet denialism and belittling of peoples right to respond. how nice...

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Stickers(1037) Clarified
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How does accusing someone of making a knee jerk remark about racism make that person a racist?

No, it is not. Simply because someone denies the existence of racism in their country does not necessarily mean that they themselves are racist.

I have absolutely no clue how these two things are supposed to be in conflict with each other.

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johnny5(135) Disputed
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because its a false accusal by definition, and its not a knee jerk remark thats signified by the word "race card", its a false one.

denial of racism is the new racism. aspects of american life stink of racism to anyone who isnt living in america. people mention it, and they are told they are not allowed to talk about it, so youve added insult to injury by belittling the right to response.

i dont think america bends over backwards as not to be percieved as racist. i think america - a nation literally built on racism, attacks anyone who points out racism today, unless its completely undeniable.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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because its a false accusal by definition, and its not a knee jerk remark thats signified by the word "race card", its a false one.

So what is the problem. The term "race card" is thrown out to stop false remarks.

denial of racism is the new racism.

Repeating your stupid sentiment doesn't make it correct. It requires a racist attitude to claim racism. Someone who doesn't see races could never do it.

aspects of american life stink of racism to anyone who isnt living in america.

And those around the things that get labeled "race card".

a nation literally built on racism

It's assholes like you that forced the dictionary to have to be updated to make the definition of literally mean it's opposite.

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pakicetus(1455) Disputed
2 points

attacks anyone who points out racism today,

Please provide evidence for your claim.

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