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I don't believe either of these wholeheartedly, I just feel more strongly with this one since it's true that it's a tool, and no tool is evil of it's own accord. Although it's a tool that can be used to expand on our freedom, it's more commonly used as a tool to oppress and dominate others.
If guns don't kill people, then money isn't the root of all evil.
Also, money is a tool that carries a lot intelligence about how people value items. That's why it's a irreplacable tool, because it enables states to accurately decipher what the people want, etc. Money is not perfect because it can be exploited, but then again, so can basically everything.
Money is simply a medium of exchange, it is a tool for man to exchange goods and services peacefully and voluntarily even if man can't tolerate one another.
Money is a third means of exchange in trade and barter. I do not know if it "enhances and expands freedom" but, it does provide people with other options in their business transactions and the like. It also, has been used to promote prosperity.
Fiat currency could be argued as a tool used towards evil; however, so could most any tool or fool for that matter.
To say that something is the "root of all evil" implies that it is a fundamental cause of evil and money is not necessarily that.
I agree that money is a tool and as such shouldn't be considered evil in and of itself. The idea that it's evil really seems to come from the idea that it induces one to evil action.
Money is a standard, a store of value, and a means of exchange. This definition makes cigarettes money, in prison. Lots of things have been used as money. The idea that it is evil means that having a standard that stores value and serves as a means of exchange is an evil thing. hm.
Money is used agaisnt peoples freedom, not for it! People do not have the freedom to buy what they want. The only people who are really have freedom is those who can afford it. Why are many in the streets becaue of poverty? Money.
Healthcare has to be bought. The world is in debt, thanks to money. Now I wouldn't quite call it "The root of all evil", however it is a major cause of poverty.
What is that evil? Health care is a service, it demands time, resources and labor to produce, if you use it, you should be expected to pay for it.
People should not pay for their own health, the poor have no choice but to pay for it.
That's like saying "The world is starving, thanks to food."
It is not. If Peoples lives were not controlled by those with more money, then the amount of people in poverty would be reduced.
How does it cause poverty? Last time I checked, money and trade have played a major role in raising living standards and make life easier.
It makes the lives of those who can afford it easier, those who can't afford it are forced to pay for something that is more than it's worth. Not to mention ridiculous taxing.
Also why did you choose to down vote my arguments? Just because you have a different view doesn't make it fair to downvote all the arguements opossing your side.
Money is used agaisnt peoples freedom, not for it! People do not have the freedom to buy what they want. The only people who are really have freedom is those who can afford it. Why are many in the streets becaue of poverty? Money.
Healthcare has to be bought. The world is in debt, thanks to money. Now I wouldn't quite call it "The root of all evil", however it is a major cause of poverty.
Actually, someone once said, "Give me control of the currency, and I care not what laws are made."
This person is widely known for starting the largest and most powerful banking family across Europe and arguably the world. I point this out because it was a man who said that in regards to seeking Power.
Now, I do agree that the perpetuation of debt is wrong; and could be argued as an evil act. However, the world is in debt because they bought into the silly notion that one person or country could spend themselves out of debt.
Yes, they thought they will pay up the borrowed money, many African states where plunges into this, until the done structural adjustments which was just taking control. However we can't just finish with that, as we have other factors like corruption, which plays a major role in debt countries,and there are more factors which influences this.
Yes, however, it is one of today's sources of evil, and controllment.
I do not think so. It is something people can use to achieve what they value. So, as an example, if one wanted to own a car because the use will provide faster transportation and the best way to achieve ownership is collecting as much money as it would take to buy such a vehicle than you have your use. So, the use of the money to achieve the use of a vehicle, provided the faster travel one values.
However, without money, evil would just be less controlled, and more explicit.
Someone can find all kinds of means to fulfill a malicious goal; they could be open or not. It might be something else that gives way to evil and control over people.
Money in some ways does benifit society, however, money is a way of controlling.
I would say that the only way money can be used in such a way is if a perception of dependence is laid down first and then, a relative means of control might be available. However, one or several, would have to expend alot of energy and time to create a false perception and have it last.
For example, there is nessacerry essensials, such as heating. People have to pay a lot for heating.
This example would illustrate what I am talking about because while it is true that heat is a basic human necessity, it is a false notion and perception that one must have money to get it. If someone needed heat they can find the material such as, wood and build a fire; there is the heat source and they did not have to pay someone for it. They provided it themselves.
People choosing to live with little to no money use
My arguement, is that it is a major cause of it, it would not stop evil if we were without, however the rich takes away peoples choice, the amount of money is too much for everyone to be rich. But the rich take money away from the poor.
My arguement, is that it is a major cause of it, it would not stop evil if we were without, however the rich takes away peoples choice, the amount of money is too much for everyone to be rich. But the rich take money away from the poor.
I am disputing your argument that it is a major cause of evil. How do "the rich" do any of what you claim they do to peoples' choice? Also, the "rich" do not take money away from "the poor". For one thing who are the "rich" and "poor"?
Can you identify who the "rich" are and how they take anything from "the poor"?
I would even argue that it is not anyone in the private sector. At least, not any who are as you call them, "rich" and got that way building it themselves, legitimately i.e., providing goods and/or services and bringing in a profit.
I have two more questions for you; What is taxation and who or where does it come from?
The rich take money for themselves. Yet, there is not enough.
So, following your logic, if someone is employed/self-employed/owns a business and they bring in income(profit) they are "rich"?
The rich are those with much money, the poor are those with little money.
Um, okay; I understand that those who have what is regarded as substantial wealth are who you refer to versus those who have very little wealth; however, the money in the form of paper currency cannot be eaten and it can be worthless quite quickly in reality. So, I do not think that that is the source of evil as you claimed.
Taxes are used for example, heating and oil. The rich live in comfort, while the poor are struggiling.
That did not answer my questions. I said, "What is taxation and where does it come from?"
Moneycannot be eaten, but it is used to buy everything, I am not argueing that it is a cause of all evil, I am argueing it's a major factor. There is about enough money for everyone to share equally, however people with business(or simler)
take the money for themselves, I beleive that leaving people on the streets in poverty is boarderline evil.
If I said taxation, then I wasn't quite thinking properly.
I know that there are fortunate people who have built a fortune and some who inherited it, etc; a.k.a. "the rich". I understand that; However, you are making accusations of a "group of people" you call "the rich", charging them with harming those you call "the poor". When one accuses or charges another with a wrong, the one accusing has the burden of proof. Can you show evidence to back up what you are claiming? I am betting you can't. I am assuming that you are a basically descent, good person, with your own sense of right and wrong, and you want to do the right thing. I suggest before placing people into a group and saying they are all evil, or guilty of hoarding all the money, take another look at who actually prints the paper money, who issues it. Who has the say of what will or will not be funded; the "banker bailouts" was still wealth redistribution and someone had to pay for it. It was not by choice, but by coercion and there is another word for it; extortion. Who decided to do such a thing and where did they get the money for that?
Moneycannot be eaten, but it is used to buy everything, I am not argueing that it is a cause of all evil, I am argueing it's a major factor. There is about enough money for everyone to share equally, however people with business(or simler)
take the money for themselves, I beleive that leaving people on the streets in poverty is boarderline evil.
So, tell me something, if someone is sitting on there lazy bum, getting a free meal, house, car, brand new t.v. and everything is provided to them, all because they are supposedly "poor" who do you suggest pay for it and how would you enforce funding from the person who does not want to pay for someone to get all of that? In fact, they are flat out morally opposed to it and view that as borderline evil; what would you do?
Is there anything stopping you from going down that street and offering a helping hand? Do you know that there are what is known as "professional Panhandlers" who literally beg for money for a living; then, get into fancy cars hours later? The point here is that things are not always what they appear and there are those who will help out if they can do so, but as soon as one forces them to pay money to a throed party, so that third party can give it to "the needy" or "the poor", it is no longer charity.
I will illustrate it like this, do you think that if I were to rob you, but tell you that it is for a good cause that would excuse my action against you?
If I make something, and then tell you that you can have it if you give me something that I want, How is that control? Money just simplifies barter. It makes trading things easy.
When John D. Rockefeller was one of the richest men in the world, he didn't have near the comforts available today. My point is that wealth is produced, not simply shared.
Bill Gates is fare wealthier than his amount of money. His wealth has not caused your relative poverty. His production caused his wealth as well as your means to argue on this site. I see no greed there.
I am sure without money there would be something else, but money is the thing that fuels our blind greed most. In my opinion, that is, yes money is the root of all evil.
