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Most Democrats do not believe in liberty and justice for all

https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/just-30-percent-democrats-say-u-s-liberty-justice/?utm_content=buffer3f310&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=lifezette_buffer


Just 30 Percent of Democrats Say U.S. Has Liberty and Justice for All

Poll finds wide partisan divide on patriotic perceptions of the country and its promise

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Most Democrats believe in self love.

They see themselves possibly being that person who freely chooses to take illegal hard drugs and getting addicted. Since they have little moral values or self control, they always want someone else supporting them after they create so many problems in their lives.

They see themseves as the irresponsible person who has the one night hook ups and maybe getting some woman pregnant, and then wanting to kill the baby so they can keep on living the self love me me lifestyle.

They see themselves as never living responsibly, never saving and preparing for their futures, their retirements, etc.

They want to live it up now and let others support them when that rainy day comes along, when they lose their jos, or when they retire, etc.

Why else would any person vote for the Democrat Party of taxes and spending? What responsible person in their right mind would want so much of their hard earned money redistributed to able bodied dead beats.

What responsible person would want our childrens future's detroyed from bankrupcy.

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Wolfgang666(174) Disputed
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I'm a Democrat and I don't do drugs. But just because I don't like drugs or alcohol that doesn't mean I should try to control people. Hell, all I do is work my two jobs, pay my taxes, and take care of my family. I've never wanted a hand out from anyone. I believe in social safety net programs because I am strong enough to lend a hand to my fellow man in need. I'm not gay or trans but I can sympathize with those people trying to find out who they are on the inside.

To me liberalism is about being a kind person who is looking out for those who feel lost in this world.

Were as, all you hear from conservatives is about how they can't stand the idea of their tax dollars going to food stamps or welfare.

This whole idea that social safety net programs are only being used by lazy people has got to go.

It is a piss poor excuse that selfish people use to try not to help anyone but themselves.

My mom was on food stamps while raising me and my sister. She also worked two waitressing jobs while being completely deaf in one ear and 40% in the other.

So cut the shit and just admit that you're nothing but a selfish prick.

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Why do you keep spewing such deception?

Conservatives and Republicans have ALWAYS SUPPORTED SAFETY NETS FOR THOSE WHO CAN NOT HELP THEMSELVES.

We believe in emergency healthcare for any person who can not afford it. We believe no person should ever starve. We believe in food banks for able bodied people, not credit cards to trade for alcohol and drugs!

We believe every person should be able to find a shelter to sleep in if needed.

What we don't believe in is spending money we don't have on irresponsible people to live the good life on the backs of tax payers.

Irresponsible people do not deserve free birth control, free vision, free mental, free kitchen sinks on our tax payer subsidised healthcare. IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE! IT WILL COLLAPSE AS WE ARE SEEING WITH OBAMACARE!

You say....

"To me liberalism is about being a kind person who is looking out for those who feel lost in this world."

What fantasy world do you live in? You support NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS every single time you vote for politicians who keep it legal!

Do you actually think it is kind to dismember a late term viable baby for any reason up to birth? That is what the Democrat Party supports in nine states.

Your type of kindness is inhuman! For hypocrites like you to preach to Conservatives about kindness is unbelievable.

If you are actually a hard working moral responsible person who does not not think you are entitled to other's money, THEN GET OUT OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!

You say you don't do drugs, yet you enable criminals who take illegal drugs to live off welfare. You enable so much harm to our children's lives through your bleeding heart lunacy when it comes to enabling irresponsible lives that hurt so many of our children.

Drug addicts ruin children's lives case you missed it. Great compassion for our most innocent as usual...NOT! Liberals are soft on crime and care little for the millions of children living in broken homes from all the crime and irresponsibility.

STOP WITH YOUR EXAMPLES OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE LIVING OFF TAX PAYERS. THEY ARE THE MINORITY! I would have no problem helping your mother if she were working two jobs, etc.

My wife worked in social service departments and guess what? She said apporximately 80% of those on welfare WERE ABLE BODIED PEOPLE NOT WORKING!

Your ideology is a lie spewed out by Socialists trying to control the people.

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mrcatsam(663) Disputed
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What kind of person would vote for a party of scammers and wimps who can't handle the truth that the US doesn't have liberty and justice for all. Looking back on some of your arguments, you've reinforced what I'm trying to say! You've said multiple times that a mother isn't even in control of her own unborn baby, and that you don't want homosexuals forcing their agendas on everyone! Does that sound like liberty and justice for all?

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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TOTAL FOOL. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FORCE THEIR AGENDAS ON OTHERS BY SIMPLY GETTING A JUDGE TO OVERRIDE AN ENTIRE STATE OF PEOPLE!

Liberty and justice is given to the people, not small groups of activists forcing their will on the people through the courts!

We have this thing called the vote, and THE PEOPLE are suppose to make the laws in their State. Not some activst Judge appointed by Liberal politicians.

But this is the only way Liberals can transform America, because they are such small minorities due to their insane ideology.

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outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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LMMFAO you must live under a rock and just awakened the only ones that cannot handle the truth are the Leftist when Hillary walked out a loser !

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mrcatsam(663) Disputed
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One time, foamy, you told me to stop calling you deplorable. But now your being hypocritical. Do you have anything to say other than

"save viable babies!", " democrats suck!" Or "I am too puny to accept the truth!"

To say why i shouldn't call you deplorable?

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You call me deplorable because that is what Liberals do. They have no tolerance for diverse opinions. They are closed minded fools trying to transform America into another failed socialistic terroristic war zone as in europe.

Anyone who does not bow to their extremism is labeled deplorable, irredeemable, racists, haters of women, old people, poor people.

You are complete judgmental hypocritical fools!

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I also know certain president who is making people pay for his own pleasure through taxes.

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Atrag(5666) Clarified
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Democrats believe in self love

I thought he was obsessed with the Democrats and now he's fantasising about Democrats wanking themselves off???

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And? There's almost no evidence that the USA does have "liberty and justice for all", and plenty of evidence that it doesn't. And before you suggest that I have some particular animus against America, the same is true for pretty much every other country in the world. I know you "patriots" of all flavours don't like to be told this, but no country's perfect.

And believing that the US doesn't currently have liberty and justice for all is nowhere near the same as not believing in "liberty and justice for all" full stop. The two are quite different, as you might know if you paid more attention to the nuances of language.

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Hello bront:

Dude.. You can't read any better than poochy boy... Listen very carefully to the WORDS.. They matter.. I believe IN liberty and justice for all.. I just don't believe we HAVE liberty and justice for all.. Do you get the difference??? No, huh? Can't help that.

excon

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outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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READ the words carefully CON you either believe in liberty and justice for all or you don't.

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Nathanduclos(43) Disputed
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I would assume you read it but apparently you didnt.

Three-quarters of Republicans said they think the U.S. has liberty and justice for all, 76 percent, while fewer than one-third of Democrats — 30 percent — said they believe that statement to be true.

Of those who said they have no party affiliation, 46 percent said they think the U.S. has liberty and justice for all.

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Three-quarters of Republicans said they think the U.S. has liberty and justice for all, 76 percent, while fewer than one-third of Democrats — 30 percent — said they believe that statement to be true.

Of those who said they have no party affiliation, 46 percent said they think the U.S. has liberty and justice for all.

At no time in the article did they say they dont think "liberty and justice" is an american ideal. . . it says they are commenting on the state of what something actually is. . .

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Justice for all.... Liberals... screw the conservatives right con? *

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Name a country that is closer to having liberty and justice for all, so we can compare it and the U.S.

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Quantumhead(749) Disputed
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"Name a country that is closer to having liberty and justice for all"

Lol. Are you even serious? Most of them. Most of Europe and a good chunk of Asia. Your argument is retarded in the first place. It's like demanding we give you the name of a nicer murderer than OJ Simpson. There are not various degrees of "liberty and justice for all". There is either liberty and justice for all or there is not.

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outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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CON you believe in liberty and justice for all but you just don't believe we have liberty and justice for all ! DO WHAT ! Now you care to explain that convoluted thought you have !

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Nathanduclos(43) Disputed
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You cant be that dumb to see the difference, but just in case.

I believe in justice.

Due to variety of reasons some victumns never get justice.

or even more simple . . . .

I believe in justice for women who are sexually assaulted.

Due to a variety of reasons some victumns of sexual assault never get Justice.

Do you see the difference? My kid understands the concept, you can believe in fairness for society but not have a fair society.

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The claim you made and the claim your source made are quite different. Hence, this is deception and not debate. You've literally invented a straw man argument.

Side: That says it all
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They polled 1000 people and then make claims nationwide. Plus the largest segment of population is the independents, followed by the Democrats and then the Republicans, which means comparing Democrats and Republicans in a sample of 1000 really doesn't reflect the overall nation anyway. And then there's the fact that the Democratic Party includes more of the oppressed groups of LGBT, women, minorities of color, non-Christian religions, atheists, most of whom feel rightly so that the US institutions favor white men.

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You cant be this silly. . you took

X does not believe America is Y

to

X does not believe in Y

If your so biased and bigoted that you cant see your own failures to be honest, im not surprised that the world is laughing at America.

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