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Most vaccine side effects are a psychosomatic nocebo effect, correct?

Are most vaccine side effects physical or psychosomatic?

Yes

Side Score: 9
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No

Side Score: 6
2 points

I'll have to take your word on your well researched assertion.

What I do know is that covid-19 is still very much around and continuing to mutate into new strains the latest of which, Arcturus, is highly contagious and due to its severity is causing virologists and medical scientists concern.

The vaccination program has saved millions of lives globally and is, without a doubt the most effective anti covid-19 measure available.

There will always be the usual number of doubting Thomas's who will challenge every medical or scientific advancement such as the know-all skeptics when Penicillin was first made available for the treatment for multiple bacterial diseases.

Side: Yes
Another-Alt(237) Disputed
1 point

I'll have to take your word on your well researched assertion.

This idiot isn't intelligent enough to perform research. Literally 30 seconds on Google debunks his premise:-

Study reveals extent of Covid vaccine side-effects

About one in three people recently given a Covid vaccine by the NHS report some side-effects.

None was serious - a common one was some soreness around the injection site, the UK researchers who gathered the feedback found.

Experts say the findings, from about 40,000 people - mostly healthcare workers - are reassuring for the millions having the vaccines now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55932832

It basically works like this. Twit finds research. Twit doesn't understand research. Twit makes random sweeping claims after finding research.

Side: No
Norwich(1576) Clarified
1 point

I guess I should have made my position clear.

I have been a supporter of the vaccination program since its roll-out.

Of course there will be 100s of 1000s, probably millions, of those inoculated who will suffer side-effects of varying degrees of severity and undoubtedly some who have died and will continue to die, but the overall upshot is that the immunization of the world's populations has helped to keep this pandemic within manageable parameters.

My study of covid-19 has led me to believe that had there not been a mandatory lock-down in many countries during the diseases initial and more virulent strain , no compulsory mask wearing nor regular conscientious hand sanitizing the death toll would have been significantly more horrific than it was.

A frightening fact is that covid-19 will be a permanent feature of our lives.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY DOUBT THAT WE HAVE THE CHINESE TO THANK FOR THIS MONUMENTAL HUMAN CALAMITY.

Side: Yes

"(“nocebo responses”) accounted for 76% of systemic AEs after the first COVID-19 vaccine dose and 52�ter the second dose.

Meaning This study found that the rate of nocebo responses in placebo arms of COVID-19 vaccine trials was substantial; this finding should be considered in public vaccination programs"

No more anti-vaxxers hiding behind their testimonial evidence. Vaccine hesitant are more likely to have a nocebo response.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21434-7

I hope somebody reads this takes a while to hunt down peer reviewed articles.

Supporting Evidence: Jama nocebo vaccines. (jamanetwork.com)
Side: Yes
Another-Alt(237) Disputed
1 point

I hope somebody reads this takes a while to hunt down peer reviewed articles

I hope someday you realise what a complete moron you are. You are so stupid it almost beggars comprehension.

No more anti-vaxxers hiding behind their testimonial evidence. Vaccine hesitant are more likely to have a nocebo response.

Oh really? Well, this is outrageous. You're seriously telling us that people with negative expectations are more likely to suffer an effect which literally depends on negative expectations to work?

Oh my goodness. Thank you Captain Obvious. Be sure to pick up a candy bar and a dunce hat on the way out, you useless twit.

Side: No
1 point

If you have an argument in there it is lost in all the irrelevant ad hominems.

"It has been shown that, due to the nocebo effect, warning patients about side effects of drugs can contribute to the causation of such effects, whether the drug is real or not."

Nocebo effect is for lots of different treatments.

Supporting Evidence: Nocebo wiki (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Yes
alebdaa435(1) Banned
1 point

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حمامات السباحة الداخلية: تم تشييدها داخل المساحات العمرانية والهيكلية للمبنى نفسه ، فهي تتطلب صيانة أكثر صرامة من المسابح الخارجية ، وفي حالة حدوث تلف أو تسرب للمياه ، يعتبر هذا النوع من المسابح أحد عوامل سلامة المبنى التي تؤثر بشكل مباشر على المبنى بأكمله

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إن المسابح العلوية ، والتي تعد جزءًا من الأبراج والفنادق الحديثة ، تتطلب صيانة مستمرة وتشطيبًا للمسبح ، خاصة وأن ارتفاع سقف المبنى يؤثر على عالم الضغط الجوي. من المبنى بأكمله.

حمامات السباحة الخارجية: متابعة أعمال الصيانة والتشطيب لأحواض السباحة للتأكد من عدم وجود تسربات أو مخاطر ، أو الاقتراب من التسريبات من مصادر الطاقة الكهربائية التي يمكن أن تشكل خطر الموت أو الحريق للسباحين. إذا اقترب من شجرة أو ورقة في ذلك المكان

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Supporting Evidence: شركة صيانة مسابح بالرياض (elaibdae.com)
Side: Yes
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Side: Yes

You are more likely to get hit by lightning than have a serious detrimental effect from vaccines.

"you are 333 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to have a serious adverse reaction to a vaccine."

Supporting Evidence: voiceforvaccines lightning quote. (www.voicesforvaccines.org)
Side: Yes
Another-Alt(237) Disputed
1 point

You are more likely to get hit by lightning than have a serious detrimental effect from vaccines.

"you are 333 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to have a serious adverse reaction to a vaccine."

What an absolute crock of shit. The odds of being struck by lightning in any particular year are about 1 in 1.2 million. It appears that your bunk website is trying to compare the lifetime odds of being hit by lightning with the odds of a single event in time.

Side: No
1 point

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Side: Yes

Twit needs to comprehend that research involves more than looking for confirmation of what he has already been persuaded to believe.

For non-mRNA or unknown vaccine vectors (primarily consisting of the ChAdOx1 Oxford-AstraZeneca) for the first dose and all doses combined, there were significant increases in the incidence of cardiac death

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-36494-0#MOESM1

Side: No
1 point

The old myocarditis myth.

"COVID-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis that the mRNA vaccines:"

This is a cherry picking fallacy.

Supporting Evidence: Covid-19 causes myocarditis. (sciencebasedmedicine.org)
Side: Yes
1 point

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Supporting Evidence: quordle (quordle-wordle.com)
Side: No