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Must Atheists burn in Hell forever?


This debate is about atheists, not for atheists, sooooo.................


  If Atheists join this discussion, they are expected to show good manners and discuss the topic reasonably.  If they think the topic is unreasonable, they will not be capable of anything other than insults and they should simply say, "in the name of Hell which I do not believe is real,  I don't care what Christians say" and they can go on their merry way, maybe sip some wine and whine about dying or whatever they can entertain themselves with.  It seems like part of atheism's religion is being rude to Christians, and atheist can put on a much better show for themselves if they display good manners....but it seems like most atheists think that increasing rudeness improves their performance and gains them more applause from their peers; just look how they act here and you know it's true.

 If they find mercy, they will stop being atheists and be saved from Hell, so the truth is that they do not have to burn in Hell forever.  The question is will they find mercy?  Most atheist here have made it pretty clear that they will not believe it is possible for them to burn in Hell except that they find themselves unable to get out of the fire as they fry like eternal sausages.


Why do atheists have to be so mean and nasty if they do not believe this?  Why can't they just say "In the name of Hell, I'm going to ignore you?".   In their hearts, they know Hell is justice against their sin and they live their lives behind a wall of denial.

Justice

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Mercy

Side Score: 7
2 points

It's perfectly reasonable to be an atheist and still be a decent person. Judge a person by their actions. Plenty of religious people go to "hell" if they are hateful people. Furthermore, why would an atheist say "in the name of hell" if they don't even believe in hell.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

they abbreviate "In the name of Hell" when they use Hell as a cuss word in things like "what the Hell was that"....they are asking "What in the name of Hell was that?" Of course they do not believe in Hell, but they feel powerful when they pretend to be stronger than Hell themselves.

I guess you're not too bright or you would have figured this out for yourself.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

All religious people go to Hell, atheists are religious people. Only saved people go to Heaven, forgiven people saved by God the Savior. You are religiously practicing something that makes you feel that you have the right to exist out of Hell...that is what all religions do, they teach that based on what you do or what you believe, you will not have to burn in Hell forever. Reality is that you need to be saved from Hell or you will burn in it forever and you cannot save yourself...being an atheist will not save you, not believing Hell is real will not keep you out of it, saying "There is no God" will not prevent you from being judged by Him with your sin condemned and your eternal confinement in the fire of Hell if God the Savior, Jesus Christ, does not save you from it and He cannot save you if you will not admit you need to be saved and you will not believe He died for your sins and rose from the dead with power to forgive and save all who repent and believe on Him.

You're on your way to Hell, you need to be saved, I really don't want you in my discussions. You have made it clear that you do not believe in Hell, so for you there is nothing to discuss, is there? You're an ongoing traffic accident and fighting against being saved........so just go on with your accident, I don't want to watch.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Don't read my posts, you can't handle the message .

Side: Justice
AlofRI(2963) Banned
1 point

WE can talk about this when we get there, wherever "there" is. I believe we will be going to the same place, and "there" the conversation will be "muted".

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Well, I believe I am going to Heaven, based on the fact that God Himself, as the Son of God, died in my place to redeem me from the curse of sin and death. You can believe whatever in the name of Hell you feel like believing, and see if your belief saves you from Hell or gives you any power there....I believe that is exactly what you plan on doing, and you are going to find out that you are wrong.

I think that's all there is for us to discuss here, thank you for your contribution.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Disputed
1 point

just to be sure you see this...........Unlike you, I have admitted to God that I am guilty of breaking His law and I have conceded to Him that I deserve to die and burn in Hell. In love, God gave His Son to be the propitiation (look that word up in the dictionary) for my sins. He died for me, paid my price so I don't have to pay in Hell. He offers you forgiveness since death could not hold Him in the ground, He died for your sins but you think you can handle your own death, handle your own sins, and off you go your own way all the way to Hell I guess......I hope I'm wrong, I hope you repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are saved, but you have made it pretty clear that you would rather burn in Hell forever than to admit you deserve to be there, or to bow to Jesus Christ as God........but if you find yourself in Hell as I expect you will, even there you will bow at the name of Jesus Christ (willingly or unwillingly) and you will say He is Lord...God will get from you the honor He deserves, even if He has to force it out of you in Hell which is the only time God will force you to honor HIm.

Side: Mercy
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

did you read that, explaining the difference between you and me? God says I deserve to die and burn in Hell for my sins, I agree with God. You claim to have done more good and less bad than me, I don't see why I should argue your point there...you are older than me and have had more time to do good things so why not concede your point on that?

The thing you have a problem with is pride; your refusal to admit that you do not deserve to be living like God but rather deserve to be dying for your sins. Claiming to be a better man than me won't get you out of it; you deserve to die and burn in Hell the same as me. I simply have conceded to God that He is the Righteous One, I am the unrighteous one, and I know He died in my place so He is justified to forgive me and keep me forever in Heaven while He is justified to leave you burning in Hell forever due to the fact that you are too stinking proud to admit that you need His mercy.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Do you realize that you are psychotically against your own life?

Side: Justice
AlofRI(2963) Banned
1 point

Well, for your sake, I really hope you ARE rig...er..correct.

As far as I am concerned, I'll put my record up against yours, simply because I don't carry the hate you carry. I gather you don't care for Jesus. I'm a Jesus believer, as in I agree with his "alleged" statements (for the most part), just not that he was the "Son of God". If it turns out that I am wrong, I'll still put up my record of compassion to your record of hate ... may the best man win. ;-)

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

How you compare to me is irrelevant. Your record will be exposed by God, and you do not measure up to Him, your sins will be on full display for everybody to see and you will be judged according to your works.

Unlike you, I have admitted to God that I am guilty of breaking His law and I have conceded to Him that I deserve to die and burn in Hell. In love, God gave His Son to be the propitiation (look that word up in the dictionary) for my sins. He died for me, paid my price so I don't have to pay in Hell. He offers you forgiveness since death could not hold Him in the ground, He died for your sins but you think you can handle your own death, handle your own sins, and off you go your own way all the way to Hell I guess......I hope I'm wrong, I hope you repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are saved, but you have made it pretty clear that you would rather burn in Hell forever than to admit you deserve to be there.

As I said before, I think we have said enough here, this stuff with you just goes on and on and on and you still fail to prove you have the right to exist outside of Hell.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

I have no hatred except against sin, my own sin as well as anybody else's. It is people like you here who are hateful, you hate me for telling you the truth of how your sin makes you unworthy of life and worthy of death and eternal damnation in Hell. I am doing you a favor by telling you the truth, but you don't want to hear the truth so the truth will stand against you and that is your own fault. You will always feel the truth is hateful, and you will always feel that a person like me who tells you the truth is hateful because you hate God and your view of God is that He hates you.......because you love your sin and God hates you sin....it's you who is backwards in your thinking, you are the hater and that is why you came here to harass me. I said it was enough after your first post, I was hoping you would stop so I wouldn't have to ban you.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

You're a Jesus believer, and you consider his statements to be "alleged"? So you believe in somebody you can't trust? What good is that? It sounds to me like you are projecting your corrupt character onto God who is incorruptible.

The Jesus you believe in is a figment of your imagination, you are worshiping your own mind and at least you admit that it is untrustworthy.

Side: Justice
bozwallocks(44) Clarified Banned
3 points

This guy really is a one trick pony................................................

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Thank you for promoting my debates......but really, I would prefer that you just stay away. Why is that so difficult for you?

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
0 points

Cartman, you know you are going to be an idiot in here and get banned, so why come?

Side: Justice
Atrag(5550) Clarified
2 points

Well it was to give you that link, obviously, and show that you are repeating yourself over and over.

Side: Justice
1 point

Define "hell" using the Bible, and tell us about the many multiple meanings of the actual word used in its original language.

Side: Mercy
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

It would be the place where unrepentant sinners burn forever...didn't you figure that out from the title of the debate?

I want you to stay out of my debates/discussions. Is that too hard for you to do? Don't you have enough of your own debates?

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
-1 points

Go start a debate, ask "Did Jesus lie when He said Hell is where the worm never dies, and the fire is never quenched, and there shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth?"

Or maybe you want to title your debate "Can we believe the Bible, did the men God used to write it lie about what Jesus said?"

You're a heretic, I gave you a chance here, you come trying to change the debate....you're as bad as the atheists sometimes.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

You would get thrown out of my church with your heresies, I want you to stay out of my discussions.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

correction, here is the lengthy study of Hell in the Bible; it addresses every point of people like you who cast doubt on the reality of the eternal torment of Hell which starts for unrepentant sinners as soon as their time of dying in this world is over; people like you who cast doubt on the Bible and even on the very words of Christ Himself.

You would do yourself well to understand correct Bible doctrine on Hell, and the following study will show you why you and/or your heretical teachers are wrong in casting doubt on God's word and the reality of Hell which burns with fire and brimstone tormenting unrepentant sinners.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/DrMaxYounce/Hell/toc.htm

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
0 points

You are a heretic and I am supposed to mark you as such, and avoid you according to the Bible (Titus 3:10).

In trying to cast doubt on the clear words of Christ who warned of the danger of going to Hell where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched, and there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, you are siding with all of the enemies of Christ, casting doubt on His word, casting doubt on His divinity..........

At least you admit to some your heresy now, denying the words of Christ who was very clear on the reality of Hell's fire and the unending suffering of those who are condemned to it.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Disputed
0 points

Your insinuation that Jesus was lying when He warned of Hell is nothing new, in the first article you will find a study of Hell in the Old Testament. You should get yourself an education and quit trying to cast doubt on God's holy perfect and pure word. What a heretic you are, tossed around by all kinds of winds of false teachers.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/salvationwebpages/05-realityofhell.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/HellsTruth/hell.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/HellsTruth/truthabouthell.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/salvation webpages/05-realityofhell.htm

Here's a couple articles for you to educate yourself a little and maybe you can rise out of your heretical teachers.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
0 points

Your heresy regarding Hell in the Bible is nothing new, it's just more garbage to make heretics feel they are superior while they ignore the Bible, change it, twist it's meaning by twisting it's words. If you want to call Jesus a liar for warning of Hell's everlasting torment of fire, that's on you. You might notice that I stay out of your debates, I want you to stay out of mine.

You're a heretic and nothing but a thorn in the flesh to me every time you show up.

Side: Justice

I don't think they should. I personally beileve in God, but I think alot of people don't because lack of evidence. Why should they suffer if they don't have a clear understanding.

Side: Mercy
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

.........Let's start with this, to see what it is you believe about God: the devil believes in God. What makes your believing any different than the devil's believing? I'm being nice now, and your question is okay....so please tell me what it is you believe about God which makes your belief different than the devil's belief.

Side: Justice
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

How can you believe in God when you claim there is a lack of evidence for God being there? How can you have a clear understanding if you say evidence of God is lacking?

Side: Justice