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Neanderthals, animals, and microbes survived without government assitance
Neanderthals, animals and microbes survived without government assistance or social programs, so why can't you?
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Neanderthals, animals and microbes survived without government assistance Hello bront: Nahhh… If the Neanderthals DIDN'T arrange themselves into groups, they would NOT have survived, and a REAL brontoraptor would be in charge.. The groups, of course, would NOT be leaderless. You know, and I know that SOMEONE would have taken the reins. Can you envision that leader making SURE everyone ate??? I can.. Is that government assistance?? Indeed, it IS. In fact, it looks like SOCIALISM.. excon Side: Yes, yes
brontoraptor: Are you claiming that you aren't the beneficiary of any government programs? I'm going to retire in a few years and I expect to get Social Security, Medicare and Medicade, programs I've paid into my entire life. What a silly debate. Animals also crap on the ground. Should humans do that too? Side: Yes, yes
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I'm going to retire in a few years and I expect to get Social Security, Medicare and Medicade, programs I've paid into my entire life. Sure, you'll take what you can get. It's human nature. To act like a human is owed them by default, or that people who refuse to stop breeding are owed simply for being born is a laugh. What a silly debate. Animals also crap on the ground. Should humans do that too? They already do. https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/ Side: No
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The former has gone extinct due to lack of structure and intellect to compete with our government-led structures that enabled people to work together despite conflicting interests outside of the unity under the economy they share among other things. Animals die left, right and centre and a new species of some weird kind goes extinct at least every week. Microbes... Lol. They go extinct so fast that they have to evolve new species regularly just to maintain their overall existence. Side: No
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The former has gone extinct due to lack of structure and intellect Animals still exist. They have no social programs. Tortoises even outlive us without social programs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listoflongest-livingorganisms Side: Yes, yes
Not for long. ;) Either we'll extend past them or they'll die out one species at a time first. The only animals who can compete like we can despite being so inferior are ones like lions, sharks, chimpanzees and dolphins which have actual politics and hierarchy etc. Reptiles are the closest thing to sustainable anarchic creatures. They will die out eventually too despite having outlasted us this far (crocs) Side: No
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Yes, those exact tortoises are barely existing anymore and are barely coping across three different such species. Tortoises are not turtles just so you know. https://www.lapintagalapagoscruise.com/ Individual lifespan is less important than species-span. Side: Yes, yes
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Yes, those exact tortoises are barely existing anymore and are barely coping across three different such species. Because humans have monopolized and destroyed their habitat. If one tortoise can make it without government assistance, what's your excuse... Tortoises are not turtles just so you know. I never mentioned turtles. Side: Yes, yes
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You're going to edit the 'since' to 'sense' and I've voted too much to stop the editing and covering up of truth so I'll simply state what you'll do before you do it instead. You'll now tell me how 'logic isn't hard' and how 'many people get it, they're all on the right-wing side' and how Milo is your idol. Side: Yes, yes
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They don't, they die regularly. xD and species of spider go extinct on the regular. Parrots only lasted as we liked them as pets and insects... They go extinct daily, 200 species of them to be exact is the average. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/un-environment-programme-n684562.html https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0920050920extinctinsects2.html Side: Yes, yes
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The thing is, it's as 'cover up the truth' you are with this as it is with justifying the horrifyingly putrid regime of Trump that your side uses. I don't care if you're a shill or a real person. I tell you this, Agent of the right-wing, you will learn to tread lightly around me for I respond with calm and reason and am far from the easy-to-trigger lib you're used to. Side: Yes, yes
I could explain to you why left-wing politics is dominating the Earth and why, over time, America is moving towards the left even with the last election relative to its origin. Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and even some Asian nations (Japan comes to mind) are all becoming social democracies as left-leaning policy with 'tamed capitalism' is the ideal system. Side: Yes, yes
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Brexit yes, the 'thing that still has to happen' because it's so idiotic for everyone involved. Trump? Hahaha, Trump is nowhere near as right-wing as you care to admit. He is fascist and loves to use taxes and put up tariffs (and take them down) where he sees fit for no apparent reason. Side: No
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Trump? Hahaha, Trump is nowhere near as right-wing as you care to admit. And? Why would I care where he is on a fake, made up political spectrum? He is fascist The fascist that hires gays and minorities. You look like a damn retard. Facts eluding you doesn't help your argument. Side: Yes, yes
Learn the game, understand the structures and then analyse who uses them well. Trump has left USA terrified of a nuke from one side, a ton of mouth-frothing enraged Muslims from another and has had more school shooting since his reign in states with gun rights that he helped loosen and encourage and is ruining US relations with nations that have been their allies from the get-go (UK, Russia, you name it). He's brain-damaged and delusional but do not be confused, he is smart enough to make it efficient in its damage no question about it. I fear for America, I really do. You never did think that one president could so thoroughly ruin the most powerful, influential nation it he world to the most hated nation that no one wants to hear a word form anymore in just 2 years? Think again. Side: Yes, yes
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Trump has left USA terrified of a nuke from one side, a ton of mouth-frothing enraged Muslims from another I am in the U.S. and have no idea what you're talking about. and has had more school shooting All Atheists... since his reign in states with gun rights that he helped loosen Gun laws haven't changed any since he became President. and encourage and is ruining US relations with nations that have been their allies from the get-go (UK, Russia, you name it). Since when is Russia our ally? Are you high? You do understand that we fought a war to tell the UK to go fuck itself? We celebrate that fuck you every July 4th... Side: No
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Because he uses tariffs, tax-money and authoritarian methods of 'getting the job done' in the WRONG WAYS and then is right-wing and laid back in the WRONG WAYS. LOL! 1)Yes. You know more than a billionaire about the world economy. Keep telling yourself that. 2)The economy, DOW, and unemployment have set world records. You can't do better than setting world records. Side: No
At the sake of who? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ Side: Yes, yes
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Oh, I see we forget all that do we? Like you forgot all Hillary's activities pre-campaign when judging her? I never mentioned Hillary, nor do I care what she or he did years ago. My 401k Doubled. Anything else? xD Triggered a special snowflake have I? Nonsensical babblings. Side: No
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Is this your way of changing topic or something? Do you feel you're defending Trump by attacking me in your assumption that I'm poor? Let's say I am both poor and stupid, would that in any way whatsoever have proven you right? Are you going for the ad hominem 'you're stupid and poor therefore everything you just said must be false' line? That's poor debating even from a consistently deficient troll like you I hoped for more. Side: Yes, yes
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Let's say I am both poor and stupid, would that in any way whatsoever have proven you right? Pretty much. Even a stupid person is smarter than any animal, and animals survived for millions of years. Are you going for the ad hominem 'you're stupid and poor therefore everything you just said must be false' line? I'm going for the "even chimps" survived for millions of years without government assistance narrative. And you should be more capable than a damn monkey... That's poor debating even from a consistently deficient troll like you I hoped for more. I don't care what you hoped for. You can't even answer why a monkey can do what you claim falsely that you cannot. Side: No
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US only was thriving without the poor suffering too bad because it was moving towards the left, it is now thriving but at the sake of the poor and you are yet to give citation otherwise. It will slowly form slums and since UK turned down its offer to become a semi-colony and Russia has agreed very little in the favor of US post-summit, it's not like US can exist as a kingpin among other nations while having 'poor people just rot' since there's (at least for now) a guaranteed election later on. Side: Yes, yes
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US only was thriving without the poor suffering too bad because it was moving towards the left, it is now thriving but at the sake of the poor and you are yet to give citation otherwise The only way to be poor in the U.S. is to choose to be. Opportunity is everywhere. Side: No
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The leftists claiming to be poor have more and easier lives than kings of the past. Oh God, just shut up you IDIOT. I draw the line when you deny the existence of poverty you silly Nazi fruitloop. People on food stamps live better than the dudes who owned everything? Is any part of you even sane? TWENTY TWO THOUSAND CHILDREN DIE PER DAY FROM POVERTY YOU THOROUGHLY EVIL, PSYCHOPATHIC MORON. Side: Yes, yes
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The leftists claiming to be poor have more and easier lives than kings of the past. Twenty two thousand children die PER DAY from poverty, you IDIOT. Denying poverty and then upvoting yourself to plus five is exactly why nobody in life takes you seriously, you disgusting Zionist piece of shit. Side: Yes, yes
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Yes. We know what socialism does to countries. You wind up eating out of dumpsters and living in human feces. Nevertheless, the fact that Africa, the Middle East, India, most of Asia, and Russia are illiberal destroys your claim of liberal domination. There are more people in India alone than liberals on the entire planet. Side: Yes, yes
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