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Lugenpresse But Mein Fuhrer
Debate Score:8
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Neo-Nazi 'diehards' face jail for being part of banned far-right group

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/08/neo-nazi-diehards-face-jail-part-banned-far-right-group-national-action

But wait a minute there guys. The Nazis were on the far left not the far right. I know this is true because Bronto told me so 400 times. And we all know what a truthful and honest individual Bronto is, right? He would never go to war with history to bring back a verminous ideology which culminated in the senseless deaths of 70 million people. Heavens no. Nobody could be that stupid. Could they?

Lugenpresse

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But Mein Fuhrer

Side Score: 6
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Neo-Nazi 'diehards' face jail for being part of banned far-right group

One woman and three men were ‘active members’ of extreme rightwing National Action in UK

We already knew the British were racists. We fought a war in the 1700s because that's just how "not British" we are.

Side: Lugenpresse
Amarel(5669) Banned
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Amarel(5669) Banned
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"On 16 June 1941, five days before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, Goebbels exulted, in the privacy of his diary, in the victory over Bolshevism that he believed would quickly follow. There would be no restoration of the tsars, he remarked to himself, after Russia had been conquered. But Jewish Bolshevism would be uprooted in Russia and "real socialism" planted in its place - "Der echte Sozialismus". Goebbels was a liar, to be sure, but no one can explain why he would lie to his diaries."

Side: But Mein Fuhrer
Amarel(5669) Banned
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"It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical."

Side: But Mein Fuhrer
Amarel(5669) Banned
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"His [Hitler's] differences with the communists, he explained, were less ideological than tactical. German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

Side: But Mein Fuhrer
Amarel(5669) Banned
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"The Marxist theory of history required and demanded genocide for reasons implicit in its claim that feudalism was already giving place to capitalism, which must in its turn be superseded by socialism. Entire races would be left behind after a workers' revolution, feudal remnants in a socialist age; and since they could not advance two steps at a time, they would have to be killed. They were racial trash, as Engels called them, and fit only for the dung-heap of history."

Side: But Mein Fuhrer
Amarel(5669) Banned
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"In the European century that began in the 1840s from Engels's article of 1849 down to the death of Hitler, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no exception has been found."

Side: But Mein Fuhrer
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"In the European century that began in the 1840s from Engels's article of 1849 down to the death of Hitler, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no exception has been found.

Banned for:-

A) Hiding your source.

B) Making/quoting false statements. See:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocidesinhistory#1490to1914

C) Using language as a tool to manufacture fascist propaganda. To imply that genocide has any connection to academia -- which is where Marx and Marxists came from -- is to turn upside down the very nature of reality.

There is zero truth in your statement and zero intellectual honesty in trying to persuade others that claiming to be something is the same thing as actually being it. For these crimes against logic and reason you will serve a cool sentence IN THE GULAG.

Side: Lugenpresse