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 Newton's equations don't work over long distance says Burrito (8)

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Newton's equations don't work over long distance says Burrito

BurritoLunch made a claim in another thread before banning me after I asked him to explain himself...

Burrito: Newton's equations don't work over long distance

Me: You'll need to explain that claim and provide examples.


Burrito: You'll need to shut your stupid mouth or I'll kick you out of the thread.


So, let's give Burrito the opportunity to explain himself or retract the claim. What so you, Burrito?

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πŸ€” He was probably attempting to use them with his time machine and got a bit......confused πŸ˜‚

He’s great for a laugh he’s the site thicko after beating off some stiff competition πŸ˜‚

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BurritoLunch(1708) Disputed Banned
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Please read, it's not about distance but how depends into reality you think and study.

Newton's laws are not accurate at long distances because he assumed time had an absolute value. That is literally information you should have received in middle school or, at best, high school. Where were you guys when you should have been at school?

On the Validity of Newton's Law At A Long Distance

An attempt is made to solve the longstanding problem of the stability of clusters of galaxies by assuming a law of gravitation that implies a much stronger attraction at a long distance than that predicted by the law of Newton.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1963MNRAS.127...21F

Mingiwuwu(1481) Clarified
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Goldtop(166) Disputed
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Newton's laws are not accurate at long distances because he assumed time had an absolute value.

Yet, the article you just googled says nothing about time causing issues with Newtons laws at long distance. Obviously, you didn't read it.

That is literally information you should have received in middle school or, at best, high school. Where were you guys when you should have been at school?

On the Validity of Newton's Law At A Long Distance

The paper you just googled and didn't read is a hypothesis regarding stability of galaxy clusters. There is no evidence this hypothesis is correct. But, we know you just pulled it up on a search, because I just did the same thing and found the same article. You didn't read this in middle school or high school or ever.

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It depends on what is meant by "Newton's equations" and which particular physical theory we are using. If he meant Newton's laws, second law always applies regardless of whether we're using classical mechanics or general relativity. Newton's third law stops working already in classical electrodynamics, but distance has nothing to do with it. Newton's first law is hard to even formulate in general relativity because a particle's "uniform motion" or lack of therein suffuciently depends on the referrence frame. But again this has nothing to do with distance. These effects take place in the presense of strong gravitational fields.

Mingiwuwu(1481) Clarified
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BigOats(1324) Clarified
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If Newton's third law is false, Newton's first law is false.

No, not really. Newton's first law holds true in electrodynamics, but the third law obviously doesn't work there because Lorenz force depends an a particle's speed.

P.S. I have edited my post, but that doesn't make the above statement less relevant.