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Debate Score:22
Arguments:20
Total Votes:23
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Not believing that god exists in any way shape or form ........

... is different from finding certain popular descriptions of god as unacceptable.

I understand

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I do not understand

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2 points

Yeah, there is a difference. Also, included would just be the parts of the different descriptions, and not just a full description. I challenge the ideas of God that have been put out and don't really reject God overall.

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Both concepts go hand in hand. The logic dictates the disbelief.

Side: I understand
0 points

"descriptions of God" ..... well I'm so glad you asked :) http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=751#p751

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
4 points

He didn't ask, stop spamming us.

Side: I do not understand
1 point

You are observing a distinction between absolute atheism and selective atheism?

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1 point

More like between... "naive atheism" and "theological skepticism"

The "naive atheist" doesn't view the god phenomenon realistically. Their thinking on the subject of god is clouded because THEY THEMSELVES favor the logically unsound definition of god that worshipers (theists) do.

A "theological skeptic" will only accept a statement about god to be true if it's experientially verifiable and can be logically supported down to first principles.

My thinking...

Theological skepticism = I do not accept one or more claims about god

Naive atheism = I do not believe god exists

Let me ask you this...Is there a description of god that you find acceptable?

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Jace(4757) Disputed
2 points

The "naive atheist" doesn't view the god phenomenon realistically. Their thinking on the subject of god is clouded because THEY THEMSELVES favor the logically unsound definition of god that worshipers (theists) do.

You mean, they use the same definition for god as the people who believe in god? I fail to see how that makes the atheist unrealistic.

A "theological skeptic" will only accept a statement about god to be true if it's experientially verifiable and can be logically supported down to first principles.

If you must insist on semantics (even though I suspect you understood my meaning), then the above debate seems more a distinction between selective theological skepticism and absolute theological skepticism.

My thinking... [...] Let me ask you this...Is there a description of god that you find acceptable?

As usual, I personally find your semantics rather frustratingly pointless. I do not constrain myself to any singular definition of god, and I fail to see how that is relevant anyways.

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