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Cool. Well, F*ck
Debate Score:123
Arguments:51
Total Votes:156
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Obama Has Won the Presidential Election. How do you feel?

Obama reached 274 electoral votes with Ohio and has acquired 4 more years for his administration an hour, more or less, ago.

 

How do you feel about this outcome?

Cool.

Side Score: 73
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Well, F*ck

Side Score: 50
8 points

Both of them are exactly the same I dont understand American people

1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama's "economic stimulus" packages.

3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama's bailout of the auto industry was actually his idea.

4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not question the "independence" of the Federal Reserve.

8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.

10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.

16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

17. Both candidates are "open" to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.

19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered to be terrorists.

22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

24. Both candidates support the practice of "extraordinary rendition".

25. They both support the job-killing "free trade" agenda of the global elite.

26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the country and both of them are right.

27. Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

28. Neither candidate has any military experience. This is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a "cap and trade" carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as the entire globe goes along with it.

32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers. Mitt Romney's "conversion" to the pro-life cause has been questioned by many. In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital's investment in a company called "Stericycle" that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.

34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop leaders is wrong.

35. They both believe that a "two state solution" will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add "signing statements" to bills when he signs them into law.

38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.

Side: Cool.

Excellent Examination.-----------------------------------------------------------

Side: Cool.
3 points

Well done, sir/madam.

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: Cool.
6 points

I'm just glad R-Money didn't get in. I will begin to prepare myself for the possibility of other terrible things happening, as Obama is not perfect.

Side: Cool.
Hellno(17753) Disputed
1 point

Yay! The most partisan POTUS in history wins again!!!!

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chatturgha(1631) Disputed
5 points

I don't particularly recall him being partisan. I recall him making ultimatums, after the Republican Party rejected his bipartisan efforts, but I hardly recall them being the utmost focuses of his actions, whilst the focuses were compromise.

Side: Cool.
garry77777(1794) Disputed
2 points

Partisan! Don't you mean center right corporate scumbag ?

Side: Cool.
1 point

spark301.... care to tell everyone what all the down-votes are for?

Side: Well, F*ck
3 points

yeah..... cool............. or nothin'. y' know the korean people like obama more.......

Side: Cool.
3 points

This was the only sane and wise outcome. Obama is an experienced and safe leader who know how to interact at home and globally. Romney was a political crisis waiting to happen.

Side: Cool.
BK5471(9) Disputed
1 point

He is experienced now but he was not 4 years ago. Romney was a GOP governor is very blue state. Lots of experience.

Side: Well, F*ck
3 points

I couldn't be happier right now I think Obama is gonna have a great second term!!!!

Side: Cool.
3 points

WW3 is not going to start.

Side: Cool.
Hellno(17753) Disputed
3 points

Really? Why not?

Side: Well, F*ck
2 points

Ha. Of course not, Romney isn't going to wage war on Russia any more! The guy's insane, I must say i was very pleased to find out Obama won.

Side: Cool.
Hellno(17753) Disputed
3 points

If you think Romney was going to wage war on Russia then you're the one who is insane.

Side: Well, F*ck
2 points

I dont worry as much about WW3 as Gulf War 3. Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Isreal, Turkey. The middle east could get seriously FUBAR very quickly.

Side: Cool.
1 point

Yes, because obviously Romney and Obama's foreign policy are EXTREMELY different.

Side: Well, F*ck
3 points

Who really gives a damn about who runs our nation we are all f*ed anyway.

Side: Cool.
3 points

I am so RELIEVED and I don't even live in the States. I guess Mitt Romney is hated all around the globe. He has such an evil face.

Side: Cool.
BK5471(9) Disputed
1 point

DO you mean um.. white! What about his face is scary - he is considered very handsome by people in his country.

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chatturgha(1631) Disputed
1 point

What does him being white have to do with Yulia's response?

I happen to personally agree. I think Romney looks evil, as I find corporatists to be evil.

How can you justify speaking for the entire country when, not only are you one person, but he also lost the election?

Side: Cool.
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
0 points

What in the world?

I edited this response and it duplicated itself.

That's quite bizarre.

Side: Well, F*ck
3 points

we will see if we made a mistake by reelecting him or not. anyway i voted for him because he killed bin laden

Side: Cool.
1 point

Obama deserves it. GO OBAMA!!!!! Obama, as I see it, will really help society and everyone else to make America great. He really deserves another 4 years. GO OBAMA!!!!! You rock!

Side: Cool.
1 point

oh yeah! Obama really rocks! He really deserved this.!!!ok, so, Obama, deserves this. LET'S GO OBAMA LET'S GO!

Side: Cool.

NOT TWO CHAINS...TWO TERMS!!!!!!!!! !

Side: Cool.

Romney let his religion make a decision for him (same-sex marriage legalisation). Obama didn't, he used his brain.

'Nuff said.

Side: Cool.

I'm happy that Barack Obama won a second term. The majority of American voters did the right thing.

Side: Cool.

Seig heil der große Führer des sozialistischen Staates, Obama!

Side: Well, F*ck

I feel nauseous. I threw up a little in my mouth. I think we need to legalize marijuana in order to deal with another 4 years. ;)

Side: Well, F*ck
chatturgha(1631) Clarified
2 points

Two states, actually, legalized marijuana tonight.

Side: Cool.

Coincidence..., I think NOT!!! ;)

Side: Well, F*ck

Which is fucking awesome. If Colorado can legalize recreational marijuana use, will it really be long before California follows suit? I think not. And I'm excited. I can't wait to buy a pack of Marlboro Greens at a gas station.

Side: Well, F*ck
1 point

I am deeply saddend by the Obama win tonight. There is no sense stressing over it because I know things will get worse. What I really don't understand is why so many people voted for him without a clue as to the suffering we in the US will undergo in the next four years.

Here is my plan of action to stave off a total melt down in MY world.

1. Today I am going to convert all of my investment accounts (please read as 401ks) from stock based investments to cash equivalents only. Hopefully I can find cash equivalents that are not backed by the US Dollar because it isn't going to be worth anything in the very near future.

2. I am going to start living healthier because God forbid I get sick under Obama care...you get kinda sick and they are not going to do anything for you...but, If you get terminally ill they will throw millions at you.

3. I am going to start a systematic anti-obama campaign like my friend Hellno did for the last four years. We won't have to worry about Obama, but we will have to worry about these crazy people who vote without thought. We need to change that!

4. I am going to pray I don't lose my job...but what the hell...if I do, I can just spend more time on CreateDebate.

5. I am going to go buy a weapon and lots of supplies to make sure I am ready for the melt down that is coming. It is going to be crazy bad. I must defend my family and our supplies.

There will be more, but this is a good start!

Side: Well, F*ck
1 point

1. if those investments had been in the DOW, they would have doubled since March 9, 2009

2. without Obamacare, a company had a profit motive for finding a way to recind your coverage when you got sick

3. disagreement does not evince an absence of thought

4. more than 5 million private sector jobs and counting

5. buy all the guns you want, and while you do take notice that Obama has lessened gun restrictions (allowing guns in national parks and in the luggage compartment of Amtrak trains)

Side: Cool.
addltd(5142) Disputed
2 points

1. Obama did nothing to bring the Dow back from almost depression levels. It was going to happen on its own.

2. My company has stated that when Obamacare is in full effect, they are dropping our regular insurance and we get to shift to non-insured Obamacare.

3. They were not thinking about how voting with emotion does not get the job done.

4. Obama has not created any jobs. He is playing with the numbers. Look at all of the people who stopped looking and the almost doubling of people on public assisstance.

5. I wasn't referring to gun control...Frankly I don't care about gun control. The reason I said I would buy a gun is to protect my family when our economy melts down and people can't find food for their families. They are going to resort to crime. I want to be prepared.

Side: Well, F*ck
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

An anti obama champaign huh? Why not just move? I mean alot of conservatives have threatened that they would up and leave the country if obama is re elected. Soooo the country would be much better off if people like you just...."left" the country.

Supporting Evidence: White Supremacy is still alive ...and well (youtu.be)
Side: Cool.
1 point

I'm not happy but I wanna say one thing because I know lots of people on the right are going to say "oh it's because of voter fraud he cheated etc." he won. That's it.

You deserve who you vote for.

Side: Well, F*ck
1 point

I agree with Jake there you get who you vote for but when I looked at Romney and Obama it's not like America had a lot of choice, I dont like Obama he reminds me a lot of Tony Blair and look how he fucked Britain up but at the same time Romney did'nt seem a lot better and his chasing after Ted Nugent for support is not a good sign that this guy knows how to run a Country. I think it'll be interesting to see how it all turns out, my guess is it'll be messy and I wish luck to all Americans, God knows your gonna need it.

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1 point

Obama may make a good President, the question is, when is he going to start???

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1 point

That white people are more open minded than people of color. If you look at the polling data, blacks are 90% for Obama, Hispanics 81% and whites closer to high 50s

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The real Mitt Romney is Eminem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE

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1 point

With Obama in office... all hell well break lose! He sucks at everything!

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1 point

I was anti-Barrack for a while, then I was anti-Obama, now I'm just anti-Michelle.

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1 point

I an disappointed by the re-election of Barrack Obama. The fact that he brainwashed half the country into voting for him amazes me. The entire election Obama and his team of socialist have been telling us the country is doing great and the economy is fine. But now, after the election, all I hear about is the impending fiscal cliff and how the economy could be even worse if this isn't resolved. And all Obama and the extremely democratic mainstream media can do is blame those evil republicans. While republicans are trying to fix this country, the democrats do nothing but blame others and destroy this country. As an American I fear for the future of this country.

Side: Well, F*ck