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Trump USA
Debate Score:7
Arguments:6
Total Votes:7
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Obvious lying: Problem with Trump or USA politics?

I have lived in the UK Spain and Germany and it is difficult to imagine any head of government in these countries saying some of the obvious lies that Trump says. Such as.. it was raining at the inauguration or "look what happened last night in Sweden!". 

I am sure all politicians lie at some point to get ahead but my question concerns these obvious lies that anyone can instantly factcheck. It doesn't happen in other countries. I thought that maybe it was just Trump but here people say that others US presidents are just as bad. So which is it.. is it a problem with Trump or a problem with USA politics in general? Do facts have perhaps less value in politics there?

Trump

Side Score: 5
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USA

Side Score: 2
1 point

The "factcheckers" have proven that Trump has told an average of 5 lies per day .... that they know of. He has the unmitigated gall to accuse "lying Ted" and "crooked Hillary" etc. of being dishonest ... along with the "fake news" which is (and ARE), FAR more honest than HE! Trumps legacy, if he (or WE) survive to have one, will be as THEE biggest liar in America's history!

Side: Trump

I'd say, problem with trump hence problem with USA politics.

Side: Trump

He has a very business minded approach to how he deals with stuff. It might be good when in business, not really when leading a superpower, It seems to me that all his decisions are money based, in other words, money is the motive.. While I'm not saying that economical perspectives are not good, when you lead a nation, it's not a business, it's sheer leadership. To excel in economy certainly means citizens would have a better lifestyle, but should it be at the cost of unity and peace? should it be at the cost of peace with other countries which would actually be good for a nation in a long run? to conservatives and people who believe in trump's methods, his methods might seem to be flashy , but it's not doing good in the long run, from where I see it.

Side: Trump
1 point

Both; the events that led to Trump being elected are obviously a reflection of the problems in US politics.

Side: Trump
1 point

US politics is packed with liars at all levels. But what Trump has demonstrated is 10 fold the usual quantity and quality of lies that one politician can put out while still somehow remaining in power.

Side: Trump
1 point

I'd say most US Presidents have told a fabrication at some point, and that's really why I'm posting on this side. However the amount of lies that comes out of Trump supersedes most on almost a weekly basis. The man doesn't fact check and spreads his own versions of false news as truths. Do I think some of his lies are over-exaggerated by the opposite side? Of course. But only some, the man is his own worst enemy in many ways and he doesn't even see it.

Side: USA