Only Those Who Believe in the True God go to Heaven
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Prove to me why I should believe your interpretation of "God" over someone else's, without using circular reasoning like "I believe my God is the true God and he's the true God because that's what I believe". You can't. You have no irrefutable mechanism for determining which interpretation of "God" is the true one. If I was a gambling man, I'd say the probability that your version of God is the "right God" is unfathomably against you. In fact, might be better to just drop the whole charade and admit you haven't got a fucking clue anymore than Joe Jew or Marty Muslim does. Time to wake up. There is no God. Side: I Think Otherwise
Nobody can prove to you anything which you refuse to believe. If the only way you will believe Hell is a literal fire where sinners are punished with no reprieve, then you will be there and your eternity will be in the lake of fire feeling like a live and undying burning lump of coal with your mind and memories remaining to haunt you in your torments. Prove me wrong, fool. You want an irrefutable mechanism? Throw yourself into a fire and see if you stop feeling the pain in death. Side: I Agree
Pick apart the nonsense and the illogic of Christianity with well formed argumentation that stands up to scrutiny, and THIS ^^ is what that you're left with. Some angry asshole who spouts a lot of bloody torture nonsense designed to scare little kids into submission, because that's the only option he has left to keep people believing in his bullshit. You're a pathetic human being and I would be laughing at you if what you peddle to humanity wasn't so fucking dangerous and disturbing. Deranged people like you need locked up, before you snap and start murdering prostitutes and hitch-hikers. Side: I Think Otherwise
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If that were true, then around 69% of the world's population is going to Hell... or, alternatively, about 76% of the world's population... or 80%... or 89%... or 75%... or maybe 100%! My point is, it's a silly concept because it relies on this idea that for someone to be good, they must believe in God. What sort of loving, fair and just "true" God would send billions of people to be tortured for all of eternity simply because they don't submit to His infinite ego? If a heaven does exist, and if the "true God" does exist, then good people will be rewarded regardless of what outdated, dogmatic text they believe in. Side: I Think Otherwise
Believing in The True God has nothing to do with scripture, religion, and any of the things you are talking about. This is a superstitious belief. Believing in The True God has to do with believing in your heart that The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is God. This is the truth. Otherwise, what are we going to do? What you are suggesting is that we kill each other over what to call a rose, yet even the name of "Jesus" and what to call "God" is different in every language. The spirit behind the letter is what is important. What is the spirit? The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. What do you call this? Do you call this Allah? Do you call this Brahman? Do you call this The Tao? The Buddha? They are all clearly names of God, and when I read the scriptures, despite where they differ it seems pretty obvious that they are either talking about or pointing out how to find God, The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. What are people really disputing about? The graven images they put before God. Shame on these hypocrites who murder those who they accuse of making partners with God when they themselves do the same thing! "the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith." What sums up all the law all of the law and the prophets? With The Spirit of Truth... In The Word of God made flesh... The Supreme and Ultimate Reality can be realized... The realization of God is the realization of Salvation. That is where heaven here on Earth comes from. The Kingdom of God is at hand! In the end, it all point to Jesus. There is only One Way to Salvation, and that way is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. The Word of God. What does an anti-Christ do but crucify Jesus? It doesn't matter how much Jesus is whipped, scourged, beaten, tortured, and how many times Jesus is killed. Death has been conquered. The work is done. It is finished. Side: I Agree
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Probably more like 95 percent of the world's population is on their way to Hell. God loved you so much that He came down from Heaven and died in your place, for you, to save you from Hell. If you won't repent of your sins and believe on Him, you will be damned and you deserve it. God gave His Son to be the propitiation for our sins, all who agree with God as to His right to execute permanent and capital punishment (eternal damnation in the lake of fire where sinners burn in pain forever)against sinners as His only begotten Son, the Innocent One, was executed for our sins, believe He is risen from the dead as death could not hold Him in the ground since He had no sins of His own, and ask God the Father in the name of God His Son to forgive them, they can by faith receive Him as He is, God the Only Savior and have new life from Him, the Spirit of God making them a new creature with eternal life. If you think you don't need what Christ did for your sins, and you don't need to admit that you are guilty of the sins He died for and worthy of eternal damnation in fire, you are mistaken and you will be cast away from God as you are now...separated from Him by your sins forever in the lake of fire. Side: I Agree
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The bible is very outdated. The concept you are talking about right here, is outdated. There are so many great people who aren't Christians. And there are also so many bad Christians. Would a murderer go to heaven just because he believed in god? If so, then you are just proving how sick fundamental Christianity is. Side: I Think Otherwise
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So just because most people don't follow religion means that heaven's not real? That's not what I said. And the Bible is not outdated. Some parts of it are, but most are still very relevant today. Some parts of it are outdated, some parts of it aren't. Many of the beliefs in it, however, we have moved past as a society. Hence why I refer to it as outdated. Outdated doesn't mean irrelevant. Side: I Think Otherwise
"What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, and one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" Side: I Think Otherwise
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Heaven is only a ideal concept ...and just a sort of aim or fear which is false .to bound us in the limitations which human feelings altogether think GOOD ...as a mother scares her child if he do not drink milk devil will take him away ...by saying this his mother acheived her aim and child got fear in his soul ...time being as child comes to know no devil will come if he do not drink milk ...we should cross all the non sense limits ,heaven hell good bad god devil ...and start doing which heart permits and makes us happier ....finally quoting only those who believe in their happiness will lead life properly .... Side: I Think Otherwise
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