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PC Mac
Debate Score:163
Arguments:46
Total Votes:189
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PC or Mac?

Everybody has his or her preference.  What's yours?

PC

Side Score: 92
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Mac

Side Score: 71

Macs are too proprietary. I have to buy their crap. I can't use of the shelf stuff.

Side: PC
6 points

They're also significantly overpriced, since you're also paying for the "brand". Take a Mac and a PC with matching specs, and the Mac will cost $1k more.

Side: PC
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
3 points

Old argument is old.

Macs become overpriced when you pay for them to put RAM in your machine before it's shipped.

Just as an example:

http://sillydog.org/graph/ss/apple/macpro_vs_dell_precision690.jpg

These comparisons are made all of the time because people are still ignorant of the fact that Macs are equal if not cheaper than their competitor's high end builds. Like I said though, you'll get raped if you add memory :(

Side: Mac
Ratburntro44(1) Disputed
1 point

Just because Macs are expensive doesn't mean they are overpriced.

When you buy a Mac, you aren't paying for the name brand. Do you think Dell and HP aren't name brands? Is Windows not a name brand? That's two name brands per PC.

If you buy a Mac, a lot of the price is for the included software, such as iLife. Also, most included PC software is trial versions.

If a Mac costs $1,000 more than a PC, it is very unlikely that it has the same "specs". You should check your facts.

Side: Mac
7 points

Macs are PCs, ever since Apple abandoned PowerPC and began to use Intel-based processors in their products.

Since modern Macs are a subset of PCs, PCs > Macs.

Side: PC

I like PCs because those are the computers that I've always used. I've been using them my whole life, and will continue to use them for my whole life. I get it when people say PCs have lots of glitches, especially Vista, but Macs just bug me. Too many stupid applications. The dock also really bothers me, I prefer taskbars.

PCs all the way. Most of my buddies are Macs, but whatever. Also, has this debate not already been brought up?

Side: PC

Yes, several times! I really wish they would use the search for debates to ascertain when the last debate date was.

Side: PC
4 points

1. Most PC's are cheaper, WAY cheaper.

2. More power and freedom for your buck, upgrading isn't very hard.

3. More software and games available.

4.You can build your own PC and customize it to your interests.

5. Windows 7 is being reviewed as a much better OS than any other currently available, even in its early Release Candidate stage, so the "vista sucks" argument is pretty much out the door this time (and Vista didn't suck that bad, the service packs helped it out a lot).

6. No dull, uniform black and white designs are required.

Side: PC

PC for Docs and such

MAC for Sounds and such

My next will be a MAC it has fantastic pro audio video programming available...much better than a PC

Side: Both for different reasons
3 points

Well my mac is fine with documents, but I only use Microsoft word for papers in school. I think my PC is perfect for gaming. That's the best thing about PC. But I like the simplicity of the Mac. It's easy to use and not overcomplicated like the PC I have.

Side: Mac
3 points

I use iWork, mainly because I don't want to pay for a word processor/spreadsheet app/presentation app. I don't use any of them enough to justify purchase and I don't make money with any of it. Word is harder to pirate and costs more, so I don't see the use.

I have a Macbook Pro though, the 5,5 (Unibody), I use it for gaming though (in Windows 7) and it works great for being a laptop. CoD4 on high settings @ 1440x800 w/ 2xAA and I'm getting >70FPS at all times, ran Crysis @ 20-30 FPS too, also set to Moderate with 4xAA. All steam games run @ absolute highest settings at over 90FPS :)

The only thing is, the machine costs $2700, which I'm fine with because I can afford it, and it's powerful for a laptop without looking retarded AND I can legally run OS X. I do a little programming though too, and OS X is a great environment for that.

Side: Mac
2 points

I prefer PC because it's what I've grown up with.

But I still don't like Macs because they tend to be a lot harder to learn how to do stuff on, and that's coming from a guy who's great with computers.

I hate the mouse and how it doesn't even have a right-click, the keyboard and how it has lame substitute keys with different names, and just the look of Macs is terrible. Some of the programs on Macs are great to use occasionally, but that's about the only good thing I can say about them. Lately they've been getting better, but I'll always stick with the PC.

Side: PC
frenchieak(1131) Disputed
4 points

Actually, that was the biggest downfall of the Mac for me. But the other day I was in school running the Mac on Windows XP (Bootcamp) and I couldn't figure out how to get this menu up and I... well... right clicked. There is no divide or anything, you just put the pressure on the right side of the mouse, and bam. Right-click away.

I really like Macs when you run Windows on them.

Side: Mac with Windows
Warlin(1212) Disputed
3 points

Oh uh...

Warlin wrote:

That's a really expensive windows machine you've got there.

Side: PC
1 point

My dad has mac with pc and it works rwally good so i would like that mix.

Side: Mac
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
3 points

/g/ would give you a 0/10...

All macs have had right click since around 2006, and had the OS recognizing right click even before that. Even the track pads have two click now... before that it was Control+click. Lame substitute keys? Keyboard shortcuts are 100% unified in OS X, every key combination is the same no matter what application, and same in Finder.

When you're talking about the difference here, it's Windows vs Unix. Unix (linux too) and OS X work, essentially, the same way, leaving Windows on it's own... and still you think that windows is doing everything the right way?

Side: Mac
Slice(5) Disputed
5 points

It's just my preference because it's what I'm used to using. I don't hate Mac, but PC is better in my opinion.

Side: PC
2 points

This debate was already created, and i believe PC won.

they're not over priced, and in more of the new ones it comes with everything you need in the box. You get a mac, you need to buy everything you could think of using seperately. In addition, mac is all look and no function.

Mac computers are just as ridiculously overpriced as the M.A.C. makeup, but people love both because theyre pretty.

Side: PC
LinuxRocks(1) Disputed
2 points

I am a Linux and XP user. I have never used a mac before, yet I want one. What does that say?

Side: Mac
2 points

PC came first and they have every option with a touch of a button and with a mac you have to but all these infared things and software.

Side: PC
1 point

PC mainly because is all of the products are not proprietary.

Side: PC
1 point

Macs just kind of seem like you have less freedom over your computer, as if your locked in! A PC is complicated and less simple, but who said that we wanted to be locked in such a small cage.

Side: PC
1 point

Seeing as I've only had a PC and only used Macs at the Apple store, I'm going to say PC. Macs are too pricey and the Ipad is going to be beat by whatever Google makes :)

Side: PC
1 point

PC, definitely. I've never taken very well to Macs, and I can't seem to ever quite get used to them or like them as much. Plus, PC is far better for gaming, which is what I love to do most on my computer.

Side: PC
1 point

PC is just superior. It is simple, plain common sense, and there is no need to waste brain juice arguing about what is fact. Microsoft kicks Apple in the ass every morning and every night.

Side: PC
1 point

Although the mac has one of the best virus defenses PC is unmatched so much stuff can be done and adding windows to it makes it a LOT better so if you want cool apps and fast loading, PC, if you want rather slow loading but fun apps go with mac but PC has so many other reasons as to why it is better if you want more info' search it up :).

Side: PC
1 point

PC has more games..... And the quality of programs for the PC is much higher than those of MAC....

Side: PC
1 point

for the price of the bottom of the line mac so starting price which is a grand you can get aa top of the line PC equal to a top of the line mac and you know why because there is no apple logo on it

Side: PC

PC is much better and more advance then Mac..........................................................................................................................

Side: PC
1 point

The PC holds way more computer games and since a great sum of computer users are gamer, this is enough for them.

Side: PC
1 point

If you want to play a game on mac you need to either pay a huge sum, or you have to get half pc and that slows down that mac so much.

Side: PC

I own both but I will testify that a Mac is better than a PC because a Mac is built to last and I don't have to worry about any viruses.

Side: PC

I never used Macs and was rather against them. Until I bought my first Mac. A $3,000 MacBook Pro changed my mind. Since I know nothing about computers, fair pricing, operating systems, gaming, etc., I love my Mac. It's so easy (and actually fun) to use, and, as a photographer, iPhoto has fantastic editing features, like levels, that most standard programs don't.

Side: Mac
8 points

Mac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It rocks the house!!!!!!!!!!!! It is the best of the best. It has Garageband, Mars explorer and much more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Mac
8 points

Why is it that in most movies, the laptops are MACS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Side: Mac
6 points

PC = Personal Computer

Mac == Personal Computer

PC == Mac

OS X > Windows > Linux

Someone argue with me.

Side: Mac
Warlin(1212) Disputed
8 points

It's more like Linux > Windows > OS X.

See, I say this because OS X sucks. There's hardly any good software for it and hardly any games for it. Oh, yeah you can get emulation software but any legal software you can get to run windows programs on a Mac are expensive. And if you buy a mac and then decide to buy emulation software... Well... "That's a really expensive windows machine you've got there."

Also, all Mac Computers use proprietary hardware so if you want to upgrade a mac you have to buy parts from Apple. With a monopoly like that, they can charge whatever the hell they want for parts.

Linux on the other hand is open source and powerful as hell, modular and free game for everyone. Because it's open source, everyone can contribute and if a bug is found a patch can be released the next day. Neither Microsoft or Apple have that kind of power and they never will because they don't give a damn what their customers think.

There's free software you can get to emulate windows and mac programs(Wine and etc.).

More than half of the servers in the world run Linux because it's powerful, reliable, secure, and smooth. I guess if we're talking on a consumer level, Windows is king and always will be as long as Microsoft doesn't screw up in the near future... Lookin' at you Vista.

But honestly, What does OS X have? A pretty theme? It's utterly useless. Not because it has absolutely no features but because you can have all of those features and a lot more with windows or linux. Plus it's not a bitch to upgrade your rig if you feel the need to.

Side: PC
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
8 points

1.) What software are you talking about exactly (examples).

2.) Apple has Mac only Applications and because it's based on Unix, you can run ANY Linux application natively in OS X.

3.) Apple hardware is not proprietary, they all use standard hardware, foxconn motherboards, Intel processors, Intel and Nvidia chipsets, standard EFI instead of BIOS, the memory and hard drives, all the same. Even before that when they were on the PPC platform it wasn't proprietary. The reason you can't upgrade though is because when you're done and you boot OS X won't recognize the hardware because Apple has drivers built for OS X or optimizes the drivers for use in a controlled environment, rather than using the drivers developed that allow all of the hardware to loosely fit with every other set of hardware out there, like they do for PC's. If you wanted you could use Windows with all of your updated hardware, but unless OS X recognizes the hardware you just cannot use OS X. In some cases even, Mac Pro's can be just as upgradable as a PC, and when I say "most cases" I mean all of the newer quad cores can be upgraded to support the latest i7's and graphics cards.

4.) Linux's open source software (including Wine) and free games all run on OS X.

5.) More than half od the servers in the world run linux because it is smooth and secure but mainly because IT'S FREE. No licenses required. Imagine having to buy an OS everything time you get a new rack, even sites like Digg would be broke as all hell if they had to pay for server OS's.

6.) OS X has everything Windows has besides Direct X. Instead OS X uses OpenGL.

Side: Mac
Skaruts(195) Disputed
3 points

Mac OS Kernel is Linux's. In other words, MAC OS was created from Linux. Therefore it beats windows any day in stability (not mentioning other ways). And Linux beats windows in it too, but Linux is specific for certain tasks. Windows is only useful for the common layman who knows little of computers, whereas Linux would fail completely in their hands (actually it would be safer to say their hands would fail completely on Linux). Windows is useful for gaming because of DirectX and a few other features. But Windows is a mess of an OS from any experienced point of view.

So, your statement should've been more like:

Linux > Mac OS > Windows

Even tho Linux is more suitable for specific tasks, Mac OS wouldn't exist if Linux didn't exist in the first place. ;)

Side: Mac
2 points

Apple uses good quality parts.

Aside from the operating system, Mac hardware is usually good quality. Apple's fit and finish doesn't generally bend and creak like the plastic panels on many PC laptops; Apple's keyboards are high quality; Apple selects good quality parts like very good LCD panels for its screens.

You can essentially buy a Mac product sight-unseen and know you'll be happy with the quality of the display, whereas PC laptops are a huge grab bag ranging from horrendous, dim rubbish to spectacular. (I have to admit I personally don't think the basic MacBook screen is of a quality that I would want to buy, but then, I think it's still better than a lot of PC notebook screens.)

Side: Mac
2 points

I prefer the quality associated with Mac OS X. The UNIX kernel has numerous advantages over the Windows NT kernel.

Side: Mac
0 points

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Side: PC