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War Pacifism
Debate Score:12
Arguments:9
Total Votes:12
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Pacifism vs. War

War

Side Score: 7
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Pacifism

Side Score: 5

I am very pro-war, but only under certain conditions.

War is an excercise of pragmatic intelligence, which the U.S. Military (and for the most part, the U.S. populace) is good at. We are pragmatic, and we are intelligent. We can carry out quality social management, and we should because we have the strongest military in the world.

My point is that violence is justified if it leads to peaceful, long-lasting ends. An example of these ends is the establishment of a world government. The way I see it, this will only be brought about by conquest, not consent, and it is completely necessary in order to counter problems like population growth, global warming, etc. If these problems are left alone... they will lead to more deaths than any war could cause.

Side: War

If there is a point to war, then I am for war.

For instance, the Germanic tribes attacked Rome because they needed more land. Without more land, they would die. Under those circumstances, the only logical choice is to gain land. If that means war, then so be it.

When the Mongols spread their empire into Eastern Europe, they would burn and pillage all the towns and villages in their way. Under those circumstances, the Europeans should fight back.

The Spartans had what was known as the 'Agoge'. They would raise males from the age of seven onwards to be soldiers. That was logical, seeing as how the ancient Greeks and their neighbors were quite warlike. I have had this debate with others, those who contest my opinion say that by training for war they are both expecting it and accepting it.

I disagree. By training for war they are expecting it and they are accepting it. But, I ask them, is it not better to expect an inevitable war and prepare than to hide from it and be raped and slaughtered when the war does arrive? It would arrive whether they wanted it or not, whether they prepared for it or not.

However, there are also bad wars. America's involvement in Vietnam and Korea was to spread their democratic ideals. The Americans have no right to meddle in their affairs and to force democracy on a nation not wanting those ideals. They blame the Vietnamese and the Koreans for fighting back, but wouldn't they do the same if somebody was forcing monarchy or communism on them?

Side: War
1 point

Forearmed is forewarned.

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Side: War
2 points

Pacifism is the better of the two choices. Either in the wrong situation is bad though.

Side: pacifism
FredCDobbs(79) Disputed
1 point

Forearmed is forewarned.

It is better to be prepared for a nonexistent war than not to be prepared for an inevitable war.

Side: War

Since war should be only used in absolute defense unlike the United States government propagates war and allows profiteering for private mercenary companies. Thus, pacifism is much more practical.

Side: pacifism
1 point

War should be a thing of the past. The act of solving issues with warfare is simply barbaric. We are beings of reason, and it is time now that we act that way.

Side: pacifism
FredCDobbs(79) Disputed
1 point

If Americans live life thinking that war is a thing of the past, yet the rest of the world disagrees, odds are that America will be unprepared for a war and that her enemies will take advantage of that.

Side: War

Peace should triumph but there are some countries that don't want it. I support peace; not war.

Side: Pacifism