Participation in idiocracy
I've noticed that most of the recent debates, and most, are just plain stupid. (to put it simply)
Am I wrong to make this assumption? I don't know. You let me know.
What kind of debate do you enjoy? One of intellect or one of simplicity?
I rather enjoy taking part
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I would rather hang myself
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Well, some debates are stupid and other debates are not. A debate that is interesting to me could be stupid to you. And vice versa. I hate it when people post in debates that they don't like and complain about how stupid the debate is. That is pointless. There are plenty of different debates, participate in the debates you find useful. If you are so complex and intelligent that none are good enough for you, then make your own. There is literally no excuse to complain. As for intellect vs simplicity, I like both. But it really depends on the debate. Side: no reason to complain
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While I do think we've reached the bottom of the barrel, so to speak, I do sometimes enjoy participating in a fun debate...but not an idiotic stab at nonsense. I think we're just about to turn the corner again though and that is a good thing. I can see more important issues on the boards now where I hadn't for some time. Some I can participate in and some not for lack of knowledge. I cannot abide idiot's delight debates but would not wish every debate to be of an extremely serious nature either. Just give me something to sink my teeth into for a bit and I'm happy...especially something where I'm not struggling for 50 words! Side: I rather enjoy taking part
I'd like to recycle debates on an annual bases. I have been here about a week and a half and have looked back to see some debates that I want to weigh in on. A year sounds like a good time amount of time for a debate to expire, and be reborn. As times change, so do opinions, facts, and the general amount of knowledge on a subject. Your opinion about something may have changed. For example, I would have liked to weigh in on the Gay Adoption debate. But hellz no am I reading through a years worth of posts to formulate my opinion. And a shout out to Tugman: I saw you silly points on the matter of Gay Adoption. If you still need the sense beaten into you, I'm up a little one on one anytime. So while i do support the silly debates, for comic relief, I also believe that the old debates should be recycled. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
"I'd like to recycle debates on an annual bases." This is, actually, a fantastic idea. There are many debates that I'd like to have another stab at, either because I feel I didn't make a good enough argument initially, or because my opinion has changed slightly. Great idea. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
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It seems from the time I've been here that debates, certain debates, are recycled with some regularity but recycling once a year or more is a good, if not great idea! Another factor that changes, Pineapple, are people. People come and go here, also with some regularity. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
I don't mind the simple vs intellectual debates; I'll participate in either, if I feel fit enough to. Everyone on here has quite a bit of passivity, so it makes the simple ones go a long way. Like someone else said though, a good debate is hard to create and find. I've tried creating 3 good ones, but I either a) didn't get many responses because no one has read about the topic or really thought about it, or b) I already know the answer to it, as well as others, and it ends up as not much of a debate, but rather a confirmation... like most of the "debates" on here actually. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
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I like both. This debate itself was not what I expected based on the title. I certainly get far more into the intellectual debates, but you can't have just those all the time. It'd get draining and there's plenty of frivolous stuff to "debate". If you don't like the silly debates, don't participate in them? Or create a debate group devoted to serious debates not "Who's the hottest athlete?" (Answer: David Beckham). In seriousness, there are a lot more idiotic things we could do than participate in a pointless debate. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
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I agree. A good debate, though, is hard to find and hard to make. I most enjoy debates that require thought to participate in, and debates that are not obviously one-sided. I like debates which ask questions ambiguous enough not to direct the answers to one side or the other, yet pointed enough to cut down on waste arguments that ask questions about the debate or are debating an unwanted topic. Many of the important issues of the world have been debated before, and one can only revive a debate so many times before it becomes useless. Debates are created at the speed of the news, and when debatable world news slows down, the debate quality and overall intelligence of the debates decrease, and we find debates that more or less ask for approval or disapproval of the CreateDebate community rather than a debate over an issue. I understand it's annoying to go through when there is little to debate about, or little that some people are willing to debate about, but I'm sure something interesting will come up, or someone will think of something to debate. It's only a matter of time, and I would look towards Lawnman for the next big question. Side: I would rather hang myself
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What I rather liked about this comment was found in your first line. "A good debate, though, is hard to find and hard to make." Very true. Very very true. I'm reading some very interesting books at this moment, but haven't come up with any good questions to ask. (ones that I think people will actually answer) The truth is, you may present an excellent question, but will the community respond? I think that's what frustrates me about life. Great questions are asked everyday, but many choose to be deaf. I guess I was hoping that CD would be a place I could go to and gather information and exchange knowledge with people that understand the environment around them. But again, your environment and circumstances within that environment will always be the greatest teacher. And after all this stupid ranting I think I just realized why I haven't connected to the community in a way that I would like. I do not know anyone here. We all have alias names and masks we hide behind. Perhaps that is my true issue. Hmm...interesting. I'll stop now. As always, very impressed with your debating abilities. Side: I would rather hang myself
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Hello B, Sorry! I have struggled with presenting questions of debate that are within the limitations of the knowledge of the participants of CD. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of questions in my mind that are beyond the limited experiences of most CD participants. For example: I will not debate economic, or monetary questions with people who are laissez faire economists. Nonetheless, I still labor to present a question that is debatable within the context of a population that is mostly comprised of laissez faire economists. Tell me what you are suited to debate and I will attempt a debate for you and others of your suit. Bare in mind: You may very well be extremely competent in one or many fields of research, while at the same time we, including myself, are yet incompetent to debate questions you can intelligently present. As stated: I'm working on that one! Side: Working on that
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No need to be sorry. I think what is happening is that my cynicism is getting the best of me. I have a hate/love relationship with the CD community. Perhaps I'm just displacing my current life frustrations onto the community. (which is most likely the case) Thank you for presenting intelligent inquiries for myself and others to debate on. My current state is this; I'm trying to deliberate whether debating on this site has any merit upon my intellectual growth. More specifically, are there other ways that can replace and or better upon the current. (if this is confusing just toss it out, my mind is in a very turbulent storm) Side: I would rather hang myself
Your intellectual growth will not be fertilized by the debates at CD, generally. However, there are debaters who are not emotional, and are rational thinkers, who also may intellectually engage your thoughts. Personally, I like opposition to my conclusions, but I prefer reasonable opposition in the stead of irrational opposition. Conclusion: I enjoy debating questions with individuals, not groups, who reason within their own minds the truth or falsity of a conclusion. And on the other side of the coin, I refuse to debate individuals who are parrots. Side: reason not emotion
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LM...that is a very elitist point of view, my friend. To say that your words or ideas cannot be understood by most people here is very cheeky, to say the least. You truly don't know what our experiences are by any stretch of the imagination. To say we are all limited of knowledge must include yourself since we are all limited in some way (s). Choose, rather, to put up your knowledgeable debates for people to see, respond to and appreciate. Side: I rather enjoy taking part
Sorry K, I am unaware of any statement in my post that questions the intellectual abilities of CD participants. Would you have preferred that I predicated unlimited knowledge and unlimited experiences of the participants of CD? The point of view I expressed in the post is a point a view that is true of all CD debaters. CD is a non-specialized layman format of debate about general knowledge. We don’t have to present debates of the expert knowledge of tenured professionals who are the elite of their fields. I, like most other CD’ers, try to initiate debates that do not require a doctorate in order to participate. Do you think I am fair or elitist? Side: I would rather hang myself
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