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People Who Kill And their Fate:

if a person is a killer and kills a family of 4 along with the house pet dog, should the killers fate he harsher sentence than a man who kills a cop? This is for the soul purpose of seeing how people feel about not just the death penalty but is murder "Murder" no matter what? Or as a whole, do we see some murders as "not as bad" as others. 

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The Murderer should have severer penalties, because the family was likely unarmed and unable to preform any self defense. A cop will likely have a un, which can be used in this situation, or even know combat.

For the criminal attacking defenseless and innocent beings, their sentence should be longer, though I do believe that any murderer should go through rehabilitation.

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The increased sentence for killing a police officer is an illogical attempt at reducing the mortality rate of those who continuously put themselves in harm’s way for the benefit of others.

I say illogical because the criminal doesn’t do a crime with the intention to go to prison, they do it thinking they will get away with it, it doesn’t matter what the punishment is.

What crime deserves a higher sentence? It depends greatly on the circumstance. I am an advocate for prevention and rehabilitation. Increased severity of punishments has been demonstrated to not substantially affect the prevention of crime, and a draconian sentence would not allow for any practical solution of rehabilitation. Still, some amount of imprisonment ought to be given until it has been demonstrated that the convicted is no longer a threat to other people.

I would expect a killer in the example you gave would have to have some serious psychological or sociological issues in order to go through with such a heinous action. Perhaps rehabilitation wouldn’t help in that case so a life sentence might be justified.

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I'm afraid this is where we disagree, I do not think that we should spend millions of dollars feeding, providing a roof and a bed and medical treatment for the people that kill. Taxes go up for all kinds of reasons most of them we have no clue about. As a child abuse survivor I disagree that a predator can be fixed by going to prison. No amount of therapy or drugs is going to stop them from having those thoughts and doing it again. Call me old fashioned but If I had the chance I would tie a rope around the balls of all people who hurts kids and attach that rope to a horse, slap the horse on the but and let the rest just happen. Would it take away what he took from me, and other girls? No, but it would solve are prison population problem, save money in the courts and jails and make darn sure they didn't hurt anyone else.

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I do not think that we should spend millions of dollars feeding, providing a roof and a bed and medical treatment for the people that kill.

Then would you consider prevention of crime preferable?

Studying what causes certain behaviors and enacting measures to help reduce the likelihood of those behaviors occurring?

This would reduce the amount of inmates and so the taxes used to house them.

As a child abuse survivor I disagree that a predator can be fixed by going to prison.

Certainly there are various exceptions due to mental problems and other factors, but rehabilitation is demonstrably effective.

BTW, I don’t see how being a victim of child abuse provides you with any relevant expertise in this matter. I do however see how it can lead you to have a certain bias. At any rate child abuse covers a broad area and yet only accounts for a small percentage of crime.

Call me old fashioned but If I had the chance I would tie a rope around the balls of all people who hurts kids and attach that rope to a horse, slap the horse on the but and let the rest just happen. Would it take away what he took from me, and other girls? No, but it would solve are prison population problem, save money in the courts and jails and make darn sure they didn't hurt anyone else.

Some child abusers don’t have balls.

There are far better ways at handling this then resorting to barbarism. The justice system is not a tool for people to enact vengeance; it is an authority for justice. And as the nature of culpability is studied more and more, the necessity for the justice system to recognize crime as a preventable/treatable illness in a sick society becomes apparent.