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People burning the Koran/Qur'an, what do you think?

 

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10 points

I've burnt a few bibles in my day so this is a pretty fair deal ;)

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3 points

I don't see that it serves any purpose. We should instead be burning jihadists.

Nautilus(628) Disputed
1 point

No no no no no, you burn books, not people,. Burning a book is a protest, it is a demonstration of freedom of speech to say that I disagree with this book. To say that I disagree with the morals, values and customs that the ink on the pages of that book embodies. It's a lot better to burn a book you disagree with, than to burn a person you disagree with. Because freedom of speech is a right that everyone should have and should not result in persecution in the form of burning another human being. You can believe what you want to believe and say what you want to say, and burning a book is simply a way of expressing that.

Side: support
Republican2(349) Disputed
2 points

Burned people are non violent people. Burning books just makes them all angrier.

Side: support
3 points

I don't see the point but it's freedom of speech as far as I'm concerned... burn baby burn!

Side: support

Not only is the burning of the Qur'an a fire hazard, but people have rioted because of it. ;)

Side: support
2 points

That's her right...I happen to agree with what she says, and I love her bacon bookmarks! Oink

Side: support
2 points

Burning a book for fear of it's content and derived stigma about a people group is ignorant. No intended nor positive end is met with this action. At the very least one flaunt their beliefs offensively, and at the most, provoke repercussions. Both of which do not strengthen the unvoiced belief or controversial frustration one holds towards any such book, it's contents, stigma, and so on.

Side: support

I'm assuming this sentiment also applies to burning the American flag. ;)

Side: support
2 points

Obviously the demonstrators who are reacting violently are the ones centrally at fault. But the idiot in Florida certainly instigated it, and unapologetically at that.

I'm opposed to book burning in general, and doing so to incite violence and instigate a reaction is beyond wicked. The fact that a preacher knowingly did so makes it even worse. Especially considering that Islam and Christianity are so intertwined and overlapped. It's like he burned part of the Bible too!

It would be like a man saying, "If you give me the middle finger, I'll have no choice but to open fire" and the other giving him the middle finger anyway. Of course the man with the gun is AT FAULT, but the other one isn't completely innocent either.

Side: support
2 points

People should not be allowed to burn the Qur'an. I am not religious but I do believe that religious materials should be respected due to the large amounts of followers each religion has. If you're going to burn a Qur'an, do it away from the public eye. It causes too much of an uproar among believers. That being said, burning the Qur'an or any religious text should be illegal. This way, people will have a more important reason not to burn it and the believers will be happy as well. People who burn religious materials do it because they want attention. Like that redneck priest. I guarantee that guy is a racist. Not just against islam, but blacks, hispanics, asians, and other religions as well. Not everyone has the same beliefs. Respect people and their beliefs and do your own thing. Burning the Qur'an is a waste of time and makes you look like an attention thirsty asshole.

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone
Nautilus(628) Disputed
1 point

I am not religious but I do believe that religious materials should be respected due to the large amounts of followers each religion has.

Consensus has nothing to do with reality and just because a lot of people believe something does not mean I should allow them to dictate what I can and cannot do with my freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

It causes too much of an uproar among believers. That being said, burning the Qur'an or any religious text should be illegal.

No, you should not give up your rights simply out of threat of violence for expressing your rejection of the ideology a book represents. If you are willing to give up your freedoms that easily, then you might as well give up the rest without a fight. America was a country founded by a bunch of bad ass rebels who said give me liberty and give me death, and people now will back down from burning a book representing ideas they disagree with simply out of threat of negative repercussions from such actions, then I think the founding fathers fought for nothing if you give up that easily.

People who burn religious materials do it because they want attention.

No, not all of them do, I support it because it is a protest of what is written in a book, it is an expression of freedom of speech saying that you disagree with this book. A book is merely a symbol of what it's words represents, since when did disagreeing become so taboo?

Like that redneck priest. I guarantee that guy is a racist. Not just against islam, but blacks, hispanics, asians, and other religions as well.

Obviously Terry Jones and his flock were a bunch of redneck idiots and they burned the Qur'an simply because they hated Islam, and they are burning the book for the wrong reasons. Please do not think that because that is the only instance that the news covered, everyone who does it, does it for the same reasons as him, there is nuance in the world, but the media doesn't usually cover it.

Not everyone has the same beliefs. Respect people and their beliefs and do your own thing.

The thing is that in the middle east, in Islamic countries under Sharia law people do not have the freedom of speech we take for granted, people cannot say what they want or do what they want and their life is dominated by an archaic book. For me, burning that book is my way of protesting the values, practices and beliefs embraced by that culture and embodied in that book. I am not an attention whore, I am not doing it out of disrespect, just a protester of things i do not agree with.

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Then say you don't like the book. Say you don't believe in what the Qur'an says. I don't believe in what the bible says, or any religious text for that matter, doesn't mean I'm gonna go burn a bible because I disagree with it. What does burning a Qur'an help? It's one thing to say you disagree with it's text but it's another to burn it. If you feel you need to burn a Qur'an for whatever reason, then do it privately. Have a Qur'an bonfire for all I care, but don't go showing it off to Islams who base their lives off that book. I agree that it is unfair how they are forced to follow that religion and how they don't have the same rights as us, but that life is all they know. They believe in the Qur'an and burning it won't get them out of that mindset. We have a mix of every type of culture in America. Burning a Qur'an will offend Americans that follow Islam as well. Is the right to burn a book really that important?

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone

Maybe people should burn guitars instead. That shouldn't cause too much of a commotion ;)

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone
1 point

Fuck you Joe! That was 822 days overdue...

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone
1 point

I think of as similar to the burning of a national flag, tremendously disrespectful but should be protected as a "freedom of expression\" thing.

Side: disrespectful but should be allowed
1 point

I dunno what to say.. I'm just really hurt right now! I had no idea hatred can go down so deep. It's like there is no heal.. It's only the lead to violence. This is never gonna end.. Global peace is just shit to talk bout.. Every one on this planet is one after the other's neck.

Side: disrespectful but should be allowed
1 point

The world is just mixed up between the wrong and the right. They are just blinded by the fact that the religion is being used as excuse for people to join. I do not think blaming it on the people is the right thing to do. People should understand and be more accepting. We all have flaws. We can't blame the whole religion for probably one millionth of its people are only doing it

Side: Leave the Qur'an alone

Hell ya! Burn them all, then throw in the Torah, then the Bible. And roast marshmellows in the fire.

Side: don't stop

Say goodbye to a lot Americans..............................................

Side: don't stop

I think she is a disgrace to the flag that she is standing before.

Side: don't stop
1 point

I'm not religious, so I don't value Holy Books, but I think it can be compared to flag burning.

When an American burns a flag I become enraged and would like deport them, that is my initial reaction, I'm not saying it is right. On the other hand, I could care less if someone who isn't an American burns a flag.

In conclusion, if you burn your own stuff I have no reason to care, but if that thing is a flag, I will care, even though I don't think it should be illegal. No one has the right to not be offended.

Side: don't stop

Nothing really worth arguing about. Just another display of the immaturity of humans.

Side: don't stop
joecavalry(39282) Clarified
1 point

But worthy enough to spend the time to leave a message ;)

Side: don't stop
1 point

If it burns, it burns. A cost-benefit analysis is the best way to answer this situation. Cost- 1 Qur'an, angry Muslims that might want to harm you. Benefit- warm hands, pretty fire.

Firewood is cheaper.

Side: don't stop
joecavalry(39282) Clarified
1 point

It's not about the money..., it's about the LOLs ;)

Side: don't stop
Elvira(3445) Clarified
1 point

I put non-money things like risk of being beaten up by angry Muslims in the equation.

Side: don't stop