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Poverty does not cause crime
“Most violent crime is not motivated by economic issues at all. It is not motivated by money. It is motivated by anger, by disputes, by conflicts between individuals.”
What more to say not much but check with the South Side of Chicago and then get back to me. By the way that City is run by none other than Leftist. The story speaks for it's self!
I am disabled. and very low income, and I do not commit crime. You can't expect a free ride in life, and I begin job training, so do not whine. Poverty, and injustice are not an excuse for crime. Instead, call on Jesus Christ, seek His will, and He will provide for you. Nor do I respect rich people who commit crime. Also, are we refering to excessive crimes, like murder? Don't kill shit!
Talking to yourself again Nom , why not make another appeal to authority? You could use that fianacial blog you used earlier to support what you cannot argue yourself 👋👋👋
I (Noumenon/FM) am not Nom (someone else) you retarded hob-goblin.
why not make another appeal to authority?
Your only supporting evidence is a random quote from a random guy who's opinion you presumably value for some reason. This is even worse than an appeal to authority because at least some "authorities" provide some form of mother fucking evidence god damn it. This is why no one responded when you originally posted this, everything you say is mindless, hypocritical and is the type of thing one would expect to leave behind a slimey residue wherever it is present.
So no defense yet again what a shocker ,.........YOU SPEND YOUR DAYS AND NIGHTS POSTING UP OTHERS OPINION PIECES WHICH AS YOU ADMIT IS WORSE THAN AN APPEAL TO AUTHORITY........
So I have no defense yet again what a shocker ,.........I SPEND MY DAYS AND NIGHTS POSTING UP OTHERS OPINION PIECES WHICH AS YOU GLORIOUSLY POINTED OUT IS WORSE THAN AN APPEAL TO AUTHORITY........
So you have no defense yet again what a shocker ,.........I SPEND MY DAYS AND NIGHTS POSTING UP OTHERS OPINION PIECES WHICH AS YOU GLORIOUSLY POINTED OUT IS WORSE THAN AN APPEAL TO AUTHORITY........
Firstly, obviously there is no causal relationship between poverty and crime, because not all poor people commit crime. Nobody has asserted this as a possibility except you, and hence you are attacking your own (i.e. straw man) argument.
Secondly, criminal psychologists have been writing papers and conducting studies on the relationship between poverty and crime since the 1960s, and possibly even earlier. It has been well established that there is a direct correlation between poverty and crime, stretching right back to the days of the Greek philosophers. See:-
Correlation between crime rate and poverty
"Poverty is the parent of crime." (Aristotle)
People living in households in the US that have an income level below the Federal poverty threshold have more than double the rates of violent victimization compared to individuals in high-income households
For both whites and blacks/African-Americans in the US, the overall pattern of being in poverty with the highest rates of victimization was consistent.
Urban poverty increased the risks of violence and crime for US households, but did not change the racial risk factors.
I know I don’t believe in time machines or 9/11 was an inside job
Firstly, obviously there is no causal relationship between poverty and crime, because not all poor people commit crime. Nobody has asserted this as a possibility except you,
Really? Have a look on the internet and see how many do assert this.....maybe?
and hence you are attacking your own (i.e. straw man argument )
I haven’t argued ...yet
Secondly, criminal psychologists have been writing papers and conducting studies on the relationship between poverty and crime since the 1960s, and possibly even earlier. It has been well established that there is a direct correlation between poverty and crime, stretching right back to the days of the Greek philosophers. See:-
Correlation between crime rate and poverty
"Poverty is the parent of crime." (Aristotle)
People living in households in the US that have an income level below the Federal poverty threshold have more than double the rates of violent victimization compared to individuals in high-income households
For both whites and blacks/African-Americans in the US, the overall pattern of being in poverty with the highest rates of victimization was consistent.
Urban poverty increased the risks of violence and crime for US households, but did not change the racial risk factors.
A pretty predictable appeal to authority there Nom old chap , is that it?
Maybe ithe relationship is really between wealth and crime and surely there must also be (as you say ) direct correlation?
1960s, biggest crime boom U S history, and the economy is great. Unemployment is under four percent (4%), there’s no inflation, the economy is fizzing and violent crime soars.
Why on Earth would you allow Cretans like Hootie and his aliases on your debates? He's a vulgar fool that does not want to debate. He simply attacks anyone who has differing opinions.
Make him your enemy and add him to your enemy's list. Then when you create a debate, simple ban him before he is allowed to spew his hatred.
Unless of course you are simply about getting points rather than debating.
There is no sport in allowing fools to ruin your debate.
There certainly can be , King’s of old had fools entertain them the fools were given free reign to say what they wished at times to amuse regal people such as I
That is paramount to allowing bullies to terrify children who look different them themselves.
Being “bullied” by Nom is akin to being “attacked” by Shirley Temple with a lolipop
Ahem. I've smashed you time after time. You sit there dumbfounded in retreat. I've asked you time after time why you agree with Hitler on everything. 500 straight non responses.
When people live in households that are struggling with poverty, they also have a higher rate of violence that involves a firearm at 3.5 per 1,000 people compared to 0.8-2.5 per 1,000 people in middle-to-high income families.
The 16-24 age demographic has experienced the highest unemployment rates and the highest increases in unemployment since 2008. In some areas, unemployment in this age demographic exceeded 20%. Nearly one-third of this demographic lives in poverty and are the most likely to commit crime and become the victim of crime.
Crime causes poverty. Engaging in crime seems like easy money, but when one is inevitably caught, it is highly detrimental to one’s current wealth as well as one’s future prospects. Thus, criminals are often made poor by their criminality, making a disproportionately high population of criminals among the poor despite the fact that most of the poor are not criminals. Couple that with the poverty inducing effects of substance abuse and the links between IQ and poverty, and IQ and crime and you have multiple factors driving the correlation between poverty and crime. It’s a complex issue.
That’s an excellent contribution , recently I read a piece that stated that criminal activity itself is indeed a major contributor to poverty.
Ah, the familiar right wing tactic of turning reality upside down. If it's black, say it's white, right? Even better, use formal language to detract people away from how completely absurd your argument is. Kind of like this:-
That’s an excellent contribution. Recently I read a piece which stated that long prison sentences are themselves a major contributor to crime.
I corrected your atrocious English. Hope you don't mind.
Ah, the familiar right wing tactic of turning reality upside down. If it's black, say it's white, right?
Right wing tactic ??? The truth really hurts you doesn’t it?
Even better, use formal language to detract people away from how completely absurd your argument is. Kind of like this:-
That’s an excellent contribution. Recently I read a piece which stated that long prison sentences are themselves a major contributor to crime.
Actually they are well done you ......
Studies also show that reoffending remains high. A 2009 study found that in the US, after three years in prison, 67% of the prisoners were rearrested for a new offence, 46.9% were reconvicted for a new crime, and 25.4% were resentenced to prison. In the UK, almost 70% are reconvicted within a year of release.
You’re brilliant you beat your own arguments every time 🤣
The direct correlation between poverty and crime has been observed worldwide, and for a LONG time. The problem is that your quote is acting as if that link must be purely economic in nature, but why would it? Poverty is often linked with anxiety, desperation, and similar psychological stressors that, when coupled with severe economic lead, consistently lead large numbers of people to criminal acts. When one is sufficiently stressed and desperate, they are far more likely to commit crime, be it self oriented, such as drug use, financial, such as theft or robbery, or purely violent, such as gang crime and general assault.
Your post seems to support the idea of a loose causal relationship between poverty and crime, while adding other factors. Many in relative poverty suffer disproportionate psychological stressors. They also have increased substance used and abuse. Even while those together increase the likelihood of crime (drunken violence for example), most poor people are not criminals, which undermines the causation argument of poverty leading to crime.
I find a more solid explanation in the financially detrimental impact of crime on the criminal, coupled with associations between crime and IQ, and IQ and poverty, and the financial impact of substance abuse and the increased risk of intoxicated criminality. All this makes much of it a correlation of shared characteristics, with some causality of crime leading to poverty.
Poverty is often linked with anxiety, desperation, and similar psychological stressors that,
That’s a very sweeping generalization and often it’s not linked with the above
when coupled with severe economic lead, consistently lead large numbers of people to criminal acts.
Again what do you base these assertions on?
When one is sufficiently stressed and desperate, they are far more likely to commit crime, be it self oriented, such as drug use, financial, such as theft or robbery, or purely violent, such as gang crime and general assault.
How much more likely? Is this evaluation based on worldwide studies or just the US?
Ah, Mr "Poverty does not cause crime" wants to talk about "sweeping generalizations". How quaint. I almost want to rub your chin and feed you dog biscuits.
Ah, Mr "Poverty does not cause crime" wants to talk about "sweeping generalizations".
So where’s the sweeping generalization I made numb nuts 🥜?
How quaint. I almost want to rub your chin and feed you dog biscuits.
But you’re a commie you couldn’t afford dog biscuits what would Marx think 🤔 Oh wait he preferred champagne with his pimp Engels
Also you never thanked me for correcting you again , remember you stated .......
That’s an excellent contribution. Recently I read a piece which stated that long prison sentences are themselves a major contributor to crime.
Actually they are well done you ......
Studies also show that reoffending remains high. A 2009 study found that in the US, after three years in prison, 67% of the prisoners were rearrested for a new offence, 46.9% were reconvicted for a new crime, and 25.4% were resentenced to prison. In the UK, almost 70% are reconvicted within a year of release