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Progressive Chaos

The citizens of the United States get to say through their elected representatives what the nation’s immigration laws will be.The citizens get to demand of those employed by that government that such laws be predictably, consistently and properly enforced.

But how is a citizenry deciding who it lets into its country any different from an individual of that citizenry deciding who is admitted into his or her home?


To further the point you come home from work one day to find that another family has just up and moved in and when you call the police they refuse to evict your new roommates citing a policy that the mayor unilaterally decided upon laws to the contrary and requiring you to just live with and accept whomever it is that moves into your house.

Let that happen in your house and your neighbor’s house and everywhere up and down your block and it would be called Chaos.

Which is exactly what engulfs U.S. immigration policy at this very moment !




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4 points

I wonder how long a banner that says we are here to stay would last in China before being tossed in prison? In Saudi Arabia they'd just behead you on the spot.

Rick_Zeta5A(357) Disputed
1 point

So your saying I should cut Your head off? Please clarify your position on religious extremism and murder solve your problems?

3 points

Progressives are not about Laws on Immigration but watch their heads spin when their beloved Government forces unwanted house guests into their home known as Illegal Aliens.

Rick_Zeta5A(357) Disputed
1 point

You mean the ones you hired to mow your lawn. If your complicit you should be removed as well.

3 points

The progressive's hypercritical attitude to immigration has been the laughing stock of most European countries for quite some time.

What these sanctimonious pro-Pedro do-gooders seem to want is to wallow in the artificial warm glow of their smug self-righteousness while branding the immigrant filth with cattle irons and corralling them anywhere as long as it's far enough away so the noise and smell from the great unwashed doesn't interfere with their candlelit champaign dinner parties.

2 points

Isn't it ironic the Progressive Hollyweird Elites won't move any Illegal Aliens into their Gated Communities there in Communist California. Being that they want them in their homeland but not in their homes.

Antrim(1297) Clarified
2 points

Yes, very odd.

It must be the progressive's variation on the votes cast by proxy theme.

The progressive's PRO-PEDRO BRIGADE get the support of those established immigrants who can vote through being seen to be occupying the moral high ground by calling for the inrush of their fellow countrymen and women.

3 points

The Liberal/Labour bleeding-heart progressives here in the U.K., and indeed in most of left wing Europe are the same.

In France the 10s of 1000s of recently arrived immigrants have been confined to living in filthy, unhygienic temporary shanty towns .

That is temporary, as in permanent.

Conditions in these squalid camps are probably worse than what they left and violent national clashes often result in death as they did recently in a fight between Afghans ans Eritreans when 5 of them died.

Regardless of the inhuman conditions of the migrants most of the so called progressives who fought for their intake refuse to allow them to be relocated anywhere near the snooty parts of their cities.

Progressives seem to have the same double standards the world over.

1 point

The American Progressives don't look at the Illegal Aliens as people but as a political cause and as for caring for them that is the furthest thing from their mind because they are pawns in the Progressive game to push an agenda on transformation of a country.

Rick_Zeta5A(357) Disputed
0 points

This is a completely different question, the difference between a huge group of law abiding tax payers,(the dreamers) is completely different than hundreds of thousands of displaced war refugees, what if your country was completely demolished by two of the largest forces on the planet, what would you do when your living penniless on the street in some country that doesn’t respect your religion, you don’t even speak the language, all things things sound like your fault?

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

You want to say the war refugees need to be allowed in all countries ?

Explain how government in all countries are vetting those refugees entering all countries?

2 points

A classic case of, 'not in my backyard'.

Open the flood gates and wave the immigrants through, as long as they stay well away from my neighborhood.

The progressive double standards call for the free flow of ''Johnny Foreigner'' but demand the introduction of legislation that confines them to the inner city ghettos areas well away from the leafy lanes of suburbia where they live divorced from reality.

The citizens of the United States don’t get to pick anything that happens to anybody in their own country. They rely on a group of founders who set up plans to ensure the important parts of the country’s government remain in tact, whilst anyone in the world who yearns to be free from oppression, can apply and join. The constitution was never written to protect the biased views of any religion or political party. American laws can progress along with American society but all the while we must endure the rhetoric of organizations that seek the limit and splendour of a free democratic society. Something that Americans have not had in years.

0 points

I don’t think the decisions to remove a blanket portion part of the population is necessarily up to the party in power. Should the people that were here first get to decide anything? Does the greater portion of the population get to decide? Does a rotten tangerine scumbag treason get to decide? Which of these makes more sence?

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
3 points

So Illegal Aliens which by law are illegal makes up a blanket portion of the population of America ?

Make some sense out of your very insane comment for me if you will.

Antrim(1297) Clarified
3 points

People must begin to understand that the United States can no longer accept the wandering masses from the failed nations of the world and that their presence is placing a massive financial burden on our economy as well as causing dangerous civil unrest.

The so called war refugee Muslims are refused entry to the oil rich Arab states including Saudi Arabia and other nations such as Russia that were involved in the Middle East conflict.

For instance, no Muslim immigrants are allowed in Japan, Russia or China.

Insofar that illegal means '' CONTRARY TO, OR FORBIDDEN BY LAW, all illegal aliens are by definition criminals.

Those working here illegally do not, and indeed cannot pay the just and lawful taxes.

Those self employed illegal businessmen leech off the bounty of a buoyant economy which enjoys relative political stability but put nothing into the nation's coffers.

Rick_Zeta5A(357) Disputed
0 points

A blanket portion is any portion you can convincingly attribute to be being part of a group you don’t like. Stupid.