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 Progressives have created this ungrateful culture of people demanding other's support them (24)

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Progressives have created this ungrateful culture of people demanding other's support them

America was once a nation of hard working self supporting people, never wanting to be a burden on others. They were a proud people, always working to be self sufficient, not wanting charity or handouts.

Then along came the Progressive movement whereby corrupt Politicians used poor people to their political advantage. They pitted one American against the next, demeaning hard working successful people as supposedly not caring for the poor, etc. etc.

This Progressive movement was never about helping those who were incapable of helping themselves, we all support safety nets.
The Left's strategy was to create a welfare voting base of able bodied people that could never be beaten. To do this, they had to create class warfare, creating wedges between successful Americans and poor Americans.

The Left has done a great job of making poor people believe they had nothing to do with their lot in life. They screamed it's not your fault! It's those rich white Republicans holding you back!!!!!

It's not your poor choices in life they scream!

It's not your alcohol abuse!
It's not your drug abuse!
It's not your sexual promiscuity causing your broken families and fatherless children!
It's not your over spending that has created your debt!

It's those Rich White Christian Republicans! That's the problem.... VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS... WE CARE ABOUT YOU!

LOL, if there were any bigger hypocrites and deceivers on the planet, I don't know who they are. Democrats care about one thing, and that is keeping their Government dependent voting block tied to the system. They don't want you to find a job and support yourself, because if you did, you would not vote for them. This is why they are always against workfare rather than welfare.

They keep the Black people right where they want them. In the inner cities tied to welfare and thereby guaranteeing them over 90% of the vote. Trump has given minorities record employment and Democrats hate him for it.
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Now tell us how rich people are the problem and ignore all the irresponsible lifestyles people choose for themselves.

Blame the rich man for all those dead beat fathers walking out on their children.

GET A BRAIN!

Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed Banned
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Now tell us how rich people are the problem

Inequality is the problem, not the liberals. You and Hitler are both wrong.

Cocopops(347) Clarified
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Life is a competition and as with all competitions there will be winners and losers.

In the cut and thrust of this highly competitive world the winners will be, not necessarily wealthy, but will be financially better off than the losers.

The left wing socialists are trying their level best to create a LOSER'S AMERICA in which the hard working high achieving wealth creators are demonised and the losers are over-parented and mollycoddled.

America has become a dangerous place for successful, well to do White Anglo Saxon Protestant males.

President Trump is trying to stop and hopefully reverse America's mad dash to self imposed oblivion

Well said...........................................................................................

seanB(950) Disputed Banned
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Proper white supremacist, you are. Hitler's wee cousin. Jog on.

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Not so many years ago anyone who preached the doctrine of;- the world owes you a living and you don't have to take responsibility for your own lives would have been taken away by the men in white coats and placed in an institution for the socially insane.

In recent decades the progressive inmates who have been running the asylum have, through the introduction of their death wish ideology insidiously normalized this growing form of frightening madness.

Just as the Great Roman Empire was, through complacency and an erroneous belief in its infallibility was destroyed from within so shall America perish from the 'national self loathing being promoted by the left wing, AMERICA 2ND, so called progressive left wing socialists.

Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed Banned
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Not so many years ago anyone who preached the doctrine of;- the world owes you a living and you don't have to take responsibility for your own lives would have been taken away by the men in white coats and placed in an institution for the socially insane.

Which years specifically? And what evidence have you used from which time periods in order to reach this conclusion?

Oh, but you're simply myth-building again, aren't you? You want things to be a certain way and -- since you don't have any evidence they should be that way -- you've just decided to invent a Utopian past where the birds sang in the trees and everybody loved Hitler.

Fuck off.

Cocopops(347) Disputed
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oh, it's only you. That explains everything.

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You of course are correct and have a brain... thank you................................

Hitlersmom(38) Disputed Banned
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You of course are correct and have a brain... thank you

One of the few people here who have a brain according to the militant christian fundamentalist is an openly racist cunt.

Tell me, why is it everyone who goes around unironically saying the word "nigger" on this site such as Jody, Antrim and Outlaw are all right wing?

Just some food for thought.

seanB(950) Banned
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America was once a nation of hard working self supporting people, never wanting to be a burden on others

America currently has record low unemployment. Haven't you heard? (That was a trend Obama created, one Trump has reaped the benefits of). You can't have it both ways. Either people are lazy and don't work, or unemployment is at a record low.

They were a proud people

Far as I can tell, overly proud now.

Then along came the Progressive movement whereby corrupt Politicians used poor people to their political advantage

Poor people will always vote for candidates who offer them compassion. That's why the poorest tend to vote for Democrats.

They pitted one American against the next, demeaning hard working successful people as supposedly not caring for the poor, etc. etc

Seems to me like a lot of high earners don't really give a fuck about poor people.

This Progressive movement was never about helping those who were incapable of helping themselves, we all support safety nets

Do you really? You think people who struggle to put food on the table ought to wait in line for food banks.

The Left's strategy was to create a welfare voting base of able bodied people that could never be beaten. To do this, they had to create class warfare, creating wedges between successful Americans and poor Americans

Whatever wedge exists between high earners and low earners is self-facilitating. When rich people can dodge tax in the Cayman's to the tune of billions while poor people get put in prison for it, that creates a wedge.

The Left has done a great job of making poor people believe they had nothing to do with their lot in life. They screamed it's not your fault! It's those rich white Republicans holding you back!!!!!

This is so far up your own arse and you don't even realize it.

It's not your poor choices in life they scream!

It's not your alcohol abuse!

It's not your drug abuse!

It's not your sexual promiscuity causing your broken families and fatherless children!

It's not your over spending that has created your debt!

You honestly believe most poor people are addicted to drugs, alcohol and "over-spending"? By overspending I will assume you mean attempting to fit into the materialistic paradigm perpetuated by American culture, by having such luxuries as a mortgage (the handout of which by banks was a direct contributor to the economic collapse that saw a massive redistribution of wealth from the bottom earners upwards); a car (almost a necessity if one wants to work more than a few miles from home); a healthy diet (which by virtue of various wholly ridiculous conservative policies is more expensive than a shit diet); a change of clothes for each day of the week and functioning electricity and water?

To afford those alone a person must earn considerably more than about 20% of the American working population make per hour. That's not a mirage, that's a fact. Why would such people vote for politicians whose policies are on the extreme end of laissez-faire?

It's those Rich White Christian Republicans! That's the problem.... VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS... WE CARE ABOUT YOU!

Again, up your own arse.

LOL, if there were any bigger hypocrites and deceivers on the planet, I don't know who they are. Democrats care about one thing, and that is keeping their Government dependent voting block tied to the system

By raising the national minimum wage to a reasonable level, taxing high earners and investing money back into social programmes like cheaper healthcare, cheaper travel and cheaper energy for the poor, they hope to keep the poor dependent?

Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? You can't have it both ways. Either they want to keep poor people poor (which if it were the case, they'd want to, for example, remove minimum wage altogether land completely dismantle social programmes like various Republicans want to do), or they want to lift them out of poverty (by for example raising the minimum wage and using taxation on high earners to fund social programmes).

They don't want you to find a job and support yourself

I again refer to the unemployment decrease during Obama's tenure.

because if you did, you would not vote for them

I would always vote for the party who want to tax higher earners and raise wages for lower earners, nomatter how wealthy I was. That's me as a person at doctoral level education, with very high earning potential.

This is why they are always against workfare rather than welfare

Again I refer to the unemployment decrease during Obama's tenure.

They keep the Black people right where they want them

Three million jobs were created for black people under Obama's reign. Under Trump, nearly 800,000 have since lost jobs.

In the inner cities tied to welfare and thereby guaranteeing them over 90% of the vote. Trump has given minorities record employment and Democrats hate him for it

No, he hasn't. That was all a result of Obama policies and the current decreases in unemployment are a marginal continuation of those policies. Obama increased the American workforce by 9% from when he took office until when he left. That's over 2 million new jobs per year in his last six years as president.

Supporting Evidence: Jobs Gain in US Over Last Three Presidents (thumbor.forbes.com)
Cocopops(347) Disputed
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How many hours of your life do you waste each day typing hysterical and meaningless drivel which no one bothers to read past the first line?

It is important for your own sake that you recognise you're no more than a resentful loser who has nothing positive to add to this or any of the other forums which you undoubtedly infest.

FromWithin is highlighting the perilous, if not fatal narrative of the loony left progressives and how their ideology is encouraging filth like you to pass responsibility for their own lives to those more capable achievers and endorsing their parasitic lifestyles.

Regardless of President Trumps improvement to the American economy there still is no room for low-life wasters such as you to lie and fart in bed all day waiting for their benefit cheque to arrive in the post.

Everyone has to pull their weight according to their abilities.

Like the great orator, ex-President ''INERTIA'', OBAMA DISCOVERED;- socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend.

Be advised that I shall not be taking your bait again as there's no point in both of us engaging in futile time wasting.

Do feel free however to continue to clank away on your keyboard.

Well said once again..............................................................................

Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed Banned
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How many hours of your life do you waste each day typing hysterical and meaningless drivel which no one bothers to read past the first line?

I read his entire post. It's much easier to read what someone writes and be interested in it if every word isn't dripping with venomous spite and the desperation to hurt other people.

Conversely, I stopped reading your personal attack after the very passage I have quoted. Why would I -- why would anybody -- want to read or be entertained by you attacking another person for seemingly no apparent reason?

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Go get a few more degrees... those Socialist Professors are doing a bang up job.

Maybe if you get five degrees, you can just have your paycheck direct deposited right to your Left's political campaign fund. They laugh all the way to their $1000 a plate political fundraiser.

Funny how the Left hob nobs with so many Rich men!

It's funny how when we see Rich Democrat's income tax returns, they are the cheapest people on the planet when it comes to charitable contributions.

According to liars like you, you all want to give most of your money to the needy.

Oh, I keep forgetting. You want to force OTHER people to give their money to corrupt socialist politicians.

Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed Banned
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Go get a few more degrees... those Socialist Professors are doing a bang up job

Sure buddy. Education is bad. Another myth central to fascist cultures. Sneer at education. If educated people don't like you then there must be something wrong with education, right?

Lol.

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Both parties have their issues. ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Of course both Parties have issues, but only ONE Party supports No Restriction abortions. That is the Democrat Party. They are corrupt evil to the max!

There is such a thing as priorities, and decent compassionate tolerant people understand those priorities. Taking an innocent life supersedes all other issues.

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What ye do unto the least of these, you do unto Him. -Jesus Christ....................................................................................................................................................

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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HYPOCRITE!

Those poor unborn babies you support killing ARE THE LEAST OF THESE!

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How Christian of you to call poor people burdens. You are so disgusting right now.......................................................................................................

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Yeh, I'm disgusting for trying to save even viable unborn lives that God says he knows in the womb.

We both know who the disgusting person is here. It's disgusting to support such inhumanity!

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America was once a nation of hard working self supporting people, never wanting to be a burden on others. They were a proud people, always working to be self sufficient, not wanting charity or handouts.

This is a fallacy which permeates through all fascist and/or imperialist movements: the myth that the culture was much greater than it is today and needs to be restored to its former glory. Indeed, the passage above might well have been lifted from any of a hundred different Hitler speeches.

In actual fact, America was a terrible place to live. They didn't call it the Wild West for nothing. Unfortunately, religious zealots are usually the first people to fall for the myths of fascists, because their entire belief system is founded on myth in the first place.