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 Progressives would have us strapped in our chair forcing us to listen to their rhetoric. (38)

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Progressives would have us strapped in our chair forcing us to listen to their rhetoric.

Have you noticed how most of the people who are so against the ban feature on this site, are Progressives who mostly reside in the Democrat Party.

You see, Progressives are in the minority in this nation, but because of the majority of Liberal media, people are conditioned to think that they are the majority. THEY ARE NOT!

Liberals tried to force talk radio to allow equal time because the Liberal radio shows had no ratings and could never stay on the air. You see, they want to force their ideology on people no matter the fact we don't want to be forced to hear it. The Left hates the free market whereby the people will decide what we want to listen to....... and it's not the politically correct Big Brother telling us all how to think.

So since they are the minority, they must try and push their political correct ideology through the courts, through talk radio, through debate sites, and they want to deny the people the right to say no!

Newsflash..... we don't all agree with your political correct extremism, and we do not want to be forced to listen to it.

The ban feature allows us the right to tune out your deception, your vulgarity, your insults, your extremism!

You have all the right in the world to free speech but you have NO RIGHT to force others to listen to it.
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4 points

You use the ban feature to prevent people from presenting counter arguments. It is you that is trying to force people to listen to your rhetoric. Every single thing you complain about is something that you do. It is pure insanity. What's next? Are you going to complain about us calling ourselves FromWithin?

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

As usual, you have it all twisted around.

Tell me how my debates are FORCING you to read them. If you don't like what I say, just don't bother reading my debates or responding to them. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

We are talking about a person's right to ban people, from HIS created debate, who are being vulgar, childish, deceptive, or just plain insulting and disruptive and monopolizing the debate.

To take away our right to ban these people, is encouraging more of the same. When a person knows he will be banned for certain behavior, many times the person will try to do better and who knows..... maybe he won't even get banned.

What a novel idea. It's called (as I like to say) shamming irresponsibility to encourage responsibility.

Cartman(18191) Disputed Banned
1 point

If you don't like our responses don't read them. If you don't like the copied debates, don't read them. We aren't forcing you to read our responses. Again, it goes both ways and you never seem to realize it.

If the website was run by you it would just be your rhetoric without any opposing opinions. That's exactly what your title described. You don't ban people for the reasons you listed.

FYI, you have shamed responsibility, so you should get off your high horse.

cownbueno(407) Disputed Banned
1 point

Your use of the Ban option is similar to sucker punching. You throw a punch and then run and hide because you're afraid to be proven wrong.

Dermot(5796) Banned
2 points

You say .....

You have all the right in the world to free speech but you have NO RIGHT to force others to listen to it.

I've never heard of anyone being forced to listen ; why do you ask a question and make a statement if you do not want debate ?

It sounds like you only want people posting who agree with you which is actually denying freedom of speech .

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

That is your logic and totally incorrect.

I WANT TO DEBATE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE CIVIL AND WILL NOT DENY THE OBVIOUS WHEN IT IS CLEARLY PRESENTED.

Just one simple example is when Democrats deny supporting no restriction abortions of viable babies for any reason up to birth. It is FACT that they are supporting this inhumanity when they vote for the people keeping it legal. But so many of you deny it!

I have better things to do then play pretend debating where people are not honest with what they support. When we debate people like that, we are truly wasting our time. The ban feature instantly stops the deception in it's tracks.

If I can't ban deceptive people in my own created debates, their posts are constantly put in my face and forcing me to read them!

Cartman(18191) Disputed Banned
1 point

You are responsible for unwanted pregnancies which lead to abortions. You don't admit your inhumanity.

Dermot(5796) Disputed Banned
1 point

You say .....I WANT TO DEBATE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE CIVIL AND WILL NOT DENY THE OBVIOUS WHEN IT IS CLEARLY PRESENTED......

Again you're wrong , what you state as the obvious is merely your opinion so again you're saying if people agree with you that's fine if not suffer the consequences

Hellno(17759) Banned
2 points

I wish someone would strap you in a chair in a room where your computer is out of reach.

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

You must enjoy being banned for that waste of time insult.............................

2 points

No one could ever force anyone to listen.Listening is a mental process that requires understanding or at least trying to understand. If someone doesn't want to understand then they are not listening.

Now I agree with banning insults and arguments that personally attack someone rather than respond to the argument. I find those types of arguments useless. Why does someone ever feel the need to insult? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and insults bring nothing.

But then again banning does not remove the argument. Banning should be for people who are harassing. Continuously responding when you decided not respond.

FromWithin(8263) Clarified
1 point

Thanks for your opinions on who you think deserve being banned. On my debate I will decide what behavior deserves to be banned.

Freedom to control how our debates are controlled is a beautiful thing!

pirateelfdog(2655) Clarified Banned
1 point

Freedom to control how our debates are controlled is a beautiful thing!

And yet you wanted to leave the site because it wouldn't let you delete other people's debates that quoted you.

Progressives try to fix government, and while that is well intentioned, we would be much better off by limiting government and trying to fix things ourselves .

FromWithin(8263) Clarified
1 point

I agree with what you say other than Progressives trying to fix Government. Progressives try to make Government bigger. They believe in socialism.

WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
1 point

they do try to make government bigger, but their intent is to fix it .conservatives also try to make government bigger, their intent is also to fix it .

You're referring to the Fairness Doctrine that would allow losing philosophies (liberalism) to piggyback on successful conservative broadcasts and present their viewpoints. The market should decide and it has decided liberalism is BS. Case closed.

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Exactly!.......................................................................................................

1 point

So, you mean to say that a majority of your country is full of those like you?

No, if that were the case, US would have destroyed itself by now.

Those like you will be extinct by yourselves.

Hellno(17759) Banned
1 point

Duplicate.

AlofRI(3251) Banned
1 point

YOU would just LOVE to "have us strapped in a chair" and have to listen to "conservative Rhetoric"! Sit there and shut up and agree with me or I will BAN YOU!

Well, we don't have to listen to you any more than we expect YOU to listen to U.S.! (The majority)! You, apparently, don't like when WE don't like YOUR rhetoric, when WE disagree with "your rhetoric"! Are you sitting down now?? Strapped in comfortably?? I am FORCING you to listen! YOU ARE RIDICULOUS! Got that?? Stupidity comes FromWithin! GOT THAT! You LOVE being "forced", don't you.???

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

What a shock, all the people i normally put on auto ban are proving to everyone why they constantly get banned.

They are deceptive insulting insecure idiots who can not stand to hear anyone speak to personal responsibility for one's actions.

1 point

Nope

1) You smear everyone and anyone who disagrees with you as being Progressive or Democrat. There indeed are independents, there indeed are people at every stage of the political spectrum on this site and you lump anyone not as conservative as yourself as simply Progressive.

2) You control whether you're in your chair or not. You log on. You can log off. you can also pre-ban almost the whole site if you want.

3) You literally paper this site with conservative topics. Between FromWithin and SaintNow the majority of the live debates tend to come from one of the two of you.

4) What the hell are you doing on a debate website if you don't want people to debate you?

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

You deceptive IDIOT!................................................................................

cownbueno(407) Disputed Banned
1 point

So basically he summarized your erratic internet behaviour and now he's being deceptive? What drugs are you on?

Sitar(3682) Banned
0 points

You conservatives are the ones forcing people to listen to unwanted ideas.

FromWithin(8263) Disputed
1 point

Thanks for that nothing response. No examples means............. bye

Atrag(5553) Disputed Banned
0 points

You are the example you complete wally.

Atrag(5553) Banned
0 points

You spam this site with the same thing every single day. It is YOU that is forcing your rhetoric on us.