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Proof That The Osama Bin Laden "Confession Tape" Is Fraudulent

So last night, bronto claimed OBL had taken responsibility for 9/11, which was a deliberately false claim on his part. OBL was interviewed twice after the 9/11 attacks, before he dropped mysteriously off the face of the planet. Here is a transcript of one of those interviews, with Pakistani daily, Unmat:-

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and other people... 

I also illustrated to him that the Vice President himself had admitted there is no evidence linking OBL to the 9/11 attacks:-

So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming 

(https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html)

Please note that this interview with Dick Cheney was conducted in 2006, five years after the OBL "confession" video was allegedly "found" in a country roughly the size of Texas.

Bronto then predictably continued lying and this afternoon claimed OBL "admitted it on video", referring to the same "confession tape". Unfortunately, before I could debunk his lies any further, he changed his debate to private access and upvoted his own lie five times. Below you can see the reaction of various bin Laden scholars to this "confession" tape.

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Israel Did It

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2 points

You were literally provided video of him claiming responsibility.

You are a pathological liar and a joke with two legs. That video has been debunked more times than flat Earth theory, by the most prominent bin Laden scholars in the entire world. It is LAUGHABLY fraudulent, just like you are LAUGHABLY fraudulent:-

See:-

Yet Professor Griffin claims this 'confessional' video provokes more questions than answers. For a start, the Bin Laden in this vital film testimony looks different.

Furthermore, Bin Laden can be seen writing a note with his right hand, although he is left-handed. Bizarrely, too, he makes statements about 9/11 which Griffin claims would never have come from the mouth of the real Bin Laden - a man with a civil engineering degree who had made his fortune (before moving into terrorism) from building construction in the Middle East.

See:-

Professor Codevilla asserted: 'The video and audio tapes alleged to be Osama's never convince the impartial observer,' he asserted. 'The guy just does not look like Osama. Some videos show him with a Semitic, aquiline nose, while others show him with a shorter, broader one. Next to that, differences between the colours and styles of his beard are small stuff.'

And see:-

Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University's religious studies' department and the FOREMOST BIN LADEN EXPERT, argues that the increasingly secular language in the video and audio tapes of Osama (his earliest ones are littered with references to God and the Prophet Mohammed) are inconsistent with his strict Islamic religion, Wahhabism.

He notes that, on one video, Bin Laden wears golden rings on his fingers, an adornment banned among Wahhabi followers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-seven-years--U- S-Britain-covering-continue-war-terror.html

You are "literally" a lying Nazi piece of shit.

Side: Israel Did It
3 points

Yeah, that tape was unintentionally hilarious. Just didn't look anything like bin Laden and it only served to solidify in my mind that we weren't being told everything.

Incidentally, at one stage the American CIA was "toying" with the idea of creating a fake video showing Saddam Hussein having gay sex, which they then intended to drop into Iraq, hoping it would have the effect of destroying his credibility. They didn't go ahead with it in the end, but the story itself evidences that this sort of propaganda is well within the scope and tactics of western intelligence services.

Side: Israel Did It
1 point

I found this and thought it might be of interest:-

The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/14/whatabout7/

Side: Israel Did It
Spuds(1074) Banned
5 points

James Woods Saw the 9/11 Terrorists?

Actor James Woods said he noticed and reported suspicious men on a flight before the September 11 attacks.

True.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/out-of-the-woods-2/

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johnnybad1(1) Disputed
2 points

Actor James Woods said he noticed and reported suspicious men on a flight before the September 11 attacks.

Right bronto. James Woods reports seeing suspicious people before 9/11 = James Woods saw the 9/11 terrorists.

Get out you fucking liar.

Side: Israel Did It
2 points

I wouldn't have any problem with it if bronto was just mistaken, but he actually knows full well he's lying, which is the part I can't get my head around. Why would he lie to protect people who murdered 3,000 Americans? Nobody who is not a psychopath would do that.

Side: Israel Did It
1 point

I wouldn't have any problem with it if bronto was just mistaken, but he actually knows full well he's lying, which is the part I can't get my head around. Why would he lie to protect people who murdered 3,000 Americans? Nobody who is not a psychopath would do that.

I agree, but bronto is a classic textbook psychopath. I strongly believe he has some connection to Israel, or at least to the far right wing.

Side: Israel Did It
Anomally(19) Banned
1 point

9/11 conspiracy theories debunked

For the past 10 years 'truthers' have claimed 9/11 was part of a bigger conspiracy – but does the evidence stack up?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/05/9-11-conspiracy-theories-debunked

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johnnybad1(1) Disputed
0 points

For the past 10 years 'truthers' have claimed 9/11 was part of a bigger conspiracy – but does the evidence stack up?

Here is a peer-reviewed scientific journal containing all the evidence that the official 9/11 story is false:-

http://www.journalof911studies.com/

These scientists are abundantly more qualified than Chris Mcgreal, who was named "World's Worst Journalist" by UK Media Watch:-

https://ukmediawatch.org/2014/08/01/chris-mcgreal-the-worst-guardian-journalist/

Side: Israel Did It
Anomally(19) Banned
0 points

CIA Agent Confesses on Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 on 9/11’?

False

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cia-agent-confesses-wtc7/

Side: Israel Did It
johnnybad1(1) Disputed
1 point

CIA Agent Confesses on Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 on 9/11’?

The CIA had nothing to do with it. Clearly, 9/11 was a Mossad operation. This is supported by the fact that five Israelis were arrested by the FBI for being witnessed "dancing" in celebration while they recorded footage of the disaster. After interrogation it was revealed that at least some of these men worked for Israeli intelligence services, the company they claimed to work for was discovered to be an intelligence operation and both the men and the van they were driving tested positive for explosives residue. The FBI files on their interrogation are in the public domain and can be read for free here:-

http://www.takeourworldback.com/dancingisraelisfbireport.htm#transcrip ts

Side: Israel Did It
masterofall(13) Disputed
2 points

I was looking for that link earlier. Thanks. There's quite a lot of condemning information in there.

I'm surprised nobody has linked the Harrit et al paper. He proved the WTC buildings were demolished by analysing dust samples:-

https://benthamopen.com/ABSTRACT/TOCPJ-2-7

It's fairly obvious who is telling the truth just by who is talking. On one side you have a stack of scientists and professional academics and on the other you have people like bronto, who throw every fallacy in existence at you in order to persuade you to believe their version of events.

Side: Israel Did It
0 points

NOM this shows how ignorant you are or should i call you Excon !

Ripon College, a private school in Ripon, Wisconsin, recently told the Young America's Foundation that they cannot hang their 9/11 memorial posters on campus because it creates an "environment" in which Muslim students "would feel singled out and/or harassed."

Dummy i thought it was Israel ? Are you LEFTY'S cornfused ????????????????

Side: Israel Did It
0 points

NOM or is it Excon ????????????

Let's take a look here and see how incredibility stupid the both of you are.

Now this incredibility stupid response was written by the educated so they think they are.

According to administrators, the objections were “raised to the administration and the bias incident team about the environment that that [the poster] creates… That because of the focus, in this case relentlessly on one religious organization, one religious group, one religious identity—in associating that one religious identity with terrorist attacks which go back far before 9/11 and after 9/11— creates for some students here an environment which they feel like they are not able to learn.”

What NOM Mooslimes cannot learn ??????????

Side: Israel Did It
0 points

Administrators reminded the students that Ripon college is a private institution and therefore Ripon can decide what it feels is appropriate for display on campus and what is not. According to the administrators, they are allowed to rule on bias complaints using a “cost-benefit analysis” where they seek to understand “to what extent does something advance” or “hinder… the educational mission of the institution.”

NOMCON it was Israel that for the 1st time melted steel with fire just check with Rosey she is factless but you could help her out here.

Side: Israel Did It
0 points

By Scott Wilson

April 30, 2012

President Obama has placed the killing of Osama bin Laden at the center of his reelection effort in a way that is drawing criticism for turning what he once described as an American victory into a partisan political asset.

Obama’s decision to send a Navy SEAL team deep inside Pakistan to kill bin Laden, the inspiration and ideologue behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, presents enormous political opportunity for a president, especially a Democratic one with no military experience.

But political analysts and Republican critics say Obama is taking a risk in claiming credit for something that as recently as his January State of the Union address he described as “a testament to the courage, selflessness and teamwork of America’s armed forces.”

NOMCON are you lying or is it Obie that is lying ??????????????????

Side: Israel Did It
johnnybad1(1) Disputed
1 point

NOMCON are you lying or is it Obie that is lying

Bye retard.

Side: Israel Did It
Anomally(19) Banned
-2 points
TheCreator(-1) Disputed
3 points

False.

That's completely true you liar. I'll link you to the PDF. The article is called: "On the physics of high-rise buildings" and it was authored by professor of physics Steven Jones:-

www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf

Side: Israel Did It