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Public Schools new lunch menu (Mrs.Obamas healthy eating)
I am asking this because this topic has hit headlines lately and I personally pay for two kids to eat lunch at school. It cost about $900 bucks for the school year, now this may not seem like a lot to some of you, but when your kids are already healthy and fit, because we own our own ranch and both the boys are out side working and if they are not working we are playing out doors. I realize that there are allot of family's that use TV and video games to babysit there kids. But for the ones of us that don't, why punish the rest of us with food that the kids just are not eating. To me this is a family matter not a government matter. If the government was paying for the lunch bill then that would be different. But they are not... as you can tell I'm agaiant this in a big way, I have had people tell me to make my kids lunch, we'll i shouldn't have to, I pay regardless I get that, and I could make there lunch and save money, but this is about our rights as Americans. The government has no right to come in and dictate what we eat.
Public schools are government funded. Are you suggesting that public schools change their cafeterias into full-blown restaurants, where children can order from a broad menu of selections?
If not, the status quo is already 'what is served is what is served' in public schools. When the government is funding and accrediting these institutions, it is wholly reasonable for them to regulate the type of food served.
It's not your only option.
You can pack a lunch for your child.
You can home-school your child and handle lunches yourself.
You can enroll your child in a private school and be subject to their policies regarding lunches rather than the governments.
What is the problem here? "It's different and I don't like it" really doesn't seem to be sufficient here.
It's more than different, it's controlling. And who funds the government?? We do, we pay there wages, we pay taxes and that's how the schools get there money.. The bigger picture is that they want to run our schools into the ground. The lunches are nasty. Plain and simple! You must not have kids and there for you don't get it. You picked me out because of my user name and now your following me around on here. I am new to this site but I'm not new to simple minded ignorant liberals!
Question: How is the prior set of regulations regarding public school lunches any less controlling than the current set? Yes, the people pay the governments wages- the people as a whole. That means that, like it or not, sometimes our taxes will pay for something that we don't personally support- case in point being these lunches. Maybe you feel you should have a say in what is served in school lunches because of your tax contribution- and you're probably right, to an extent- but you're hardly the sole person paying these taxes. If we wanted to base it off of tax contributions, would you be comfortable with the idea of the lower income families who essentially get all of their taxes refunded having no say, while the extremely wealthy have an individually much bigger vote than the middle classes due to their higher individual tax contributions?
How does the government benefit in any way by 'running our schools into the ground?' I seriously question that there is any intent here.
Define 'nasty' too- is it somehow worse than the many times reheated greasy mess they called pizza when I was in school? I find it highly unlilely that it is significantly worse than its predecessor even subjectively, and certainly not objectively.
Not only do I have kids, but I also work in education- so I suppose that I get it a bit more than you do, eh?
As for your username- didn't even notice it until you replied to me. I see the debates in the new or active list, and if they catch my attention and I feel I have an informed opinion, I post on them. Did you think your username offended me? I oppose Obama and most of his policies personally, but I'm not so short-sighted as to unilaterally pre-judge anything with the name 'Obama' attached to it. I'm more of a moderate than a liberal, and I lean conservatively on several issues.
If you're worried about people 'following you around' I would suggest looking at a few different debates. Some of us have a tendency to comment on most debates in circulation. I daresay this is the first time I've had a direct dialogue with this particular persona- perhaps are you confusing this account with one of your other ones?
I don't understand what your problem is. You seem to be complaining that schools both provide and don't provide lunch. Are you mad because it is only s variety of food that fat people should be eating and no "junk" good for the skinny kids?
Lol nope, what I am saying is that government shouldn't control this part of our lives. Monkey Obama has to have her hand in everything. As for kids that are over weight, the parents need to be held responsible. Before I moved to the ranch I was living in a very large city, kids who didn't have food at home and were getting food from the back pack program, would go all day with out eating. Let me ask you if you have tried the new lunches that are being served? Because I have, I wanted to know why my boys were starving when they got home from school. I couldn't eat it, I love fruits and veggies as do my kids, but this stuff was horrible. My 15 year old has the salad bar every day now. He is not getting a balanced meal. As for "junk" I don't allow junk food in the house. No pop, no chips just ice cream maybe 2 or 3 times a month. It's the "junk" that parents are feeding there kids at home that is causing this problem, not "SCHOOL LUNCHES"! I suppose if you want to live in a dictatorship you should move to North Korea.
This is a silly token regulation. It won't really even have a huge impact on what kids eat. My money is that that the first lady is just trying to get attention.
I've been making hundreds (donated a few hundred too) off selling candy in school last year. This year, with the new "healthy" vending machines, I'll be making a killing! By next school year, I definitely won't be the only one.
I can see why your making a killing, as for being silly, I don't see it that way. And hopefully state after state will continue to watch this and the sales decline and hopefully they will change things back the way they were
Lol nope, what I am saying is that government shouldn't control this part of our lives.
How can you complain about the government providing food at a government school? If it is a public school, who is supposed to provide the food?
As for kids that are over weight, the parents need to be held responsible.
Are you complaining that the lunch foods don't provide enough fat and protein because of the fat children?
Let me ask you if you have tried the new lunches that are being served?
No, that's why I am trying to figure out what you are complaining about.
Because I have, I wanted to know why my boys were starving when they got home from school. I couldn't eat it, I love fruits and veggies as do my kids, but this stuff was horrible.
Is it low quality, or poor choices in food? How does this have to do with Obama?
As for "junk" I don't allow junk food in the house.
It was in quotes because your idea of junk food and Obama's idea of junk food are different. I was asking if they don't allow foods that can make you fat if you eat too much.
How can you complain about the government providing food at a government school? If it is a public school, who is supposed to provide the food?
1) We the tax payers supply the food, on too of the parents paying the school for the food..
3) As for the over weight kids, they didn't get over weight because of the old school lunches. They became over weight from home. And webmd states that a child that is over weight can be caused from actually not eating: the body retains all food consumed to store energy because the child is not eating regularly.
4) when the new lunches started my boys said they were horrible, so I decided to have lunch with them one day and I couldn't eat it. If you like rubbery dried out meat then all means eat up. .
5) this is Mrs Obama's Big CHANGE.. She changed the school lunches because she thinks she is god.. Her and her husband both think they can do what ever they want..
The good news is that some states are taking back control, if the sales continue to decline on school lunches then they will bring back the old menu. Schools are losing money over this.
6) to much of any food can make you fat.. Moderation is key to everything. Fun foods are just that, FUN. And should only be eaten during fun times.
Now I'm confused as to why you are responding to this unless you have kids in school? You already said you have not eaten it, so what do you care about this? Or is this because your a liberal and you feel the need to back up the monkeys in the White House.. Also it is common knowledge that Michelle is the one that changed to school lunches, and it is also common knowledge that the parents pay for those lunches NOT THE GOVERNMENT. And let me add, that your tax dollars go to the public schools to, the amt of food being thrown away in school right now is horrible. Also more and more kids are bringing there lunches therefore sales are down and this is hurting the school Dist..
1) We the tax payers supply the food, on too of the parents paying the school for the food..
I understand why you are complaining about the food, but you are also saying that you are mad that the government is involved with providing food. Who is supposed to provide the food? If they go back to the old menu, isn't it still the government providing the food because it is a public institution?
3) As for the over weight kids, they didn't get over weight because of the old school lunches. They became over weight from home. And webmd states that a child that is over weight can be caused from actually not eating: the body retains all food consumed to store energy because the child is not eating regularly.
4) when the new lunches started my boys said they were horrible, so I decided to have lunch with them one day and I couldn't eat it. If you like rubbery dried out meat then all means eat up. .
5) this is Mrs Obama's Big CHANGE.. She changed the school lunches because she thinks she is god.. Her and her husband both think they can do what ever they want..
I don't understand how this is not a problem with the quality of the food and is a problem with the choices Obama made.
6) to much of any food can make you fat.. Moderation is key to everything. Fun foods are just that, FUN. And should only be eaten during fun times.
This sort of indicates that Obama was ok to take away fun foods from schools because school isn't about fun foods.
Now I'm confused as to why you are responding to this unless you have kids in school?
If I wanted to live in a dictatorship where I was only allowed to discuss topics that are currently affecting me I would move to North Korea.
You already said you have not eaten it, so what do you care about this?
Unlike you I actually care about other people.
Or is this because your a liberal and you feel the need to back up the monkeys in the White House..
I never said I liked the change. When I asked what is wrong with the change I was told that I should mind my own business because I don't have kids. How am I supposed to have an opinion if I don't know what the change is?
Also it is common knowledge that Michelle is the one that changed to school lunches, and it is also common knowledge that the parents pay for those lunches NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I said the government provides the food.
And let me add, that your tax dollars go to the public schools to, the amt of food being thrown away in school right now is horrible.
Oh, so now I do have reason to be involved. Weird, first it is "get out you don't have kids" then it is "hey, they are wasting your money, you should be involved." Make up your mind.
Also more and more kids are bringing there lunches therefore sales are down and this is hurting the school Dist..
But, why is the food inedible? Is it because Obama chose foods that are never edible, or because she chose foods that are very hard to make right, or is it just that the schools are doing a horrible job making the food?
Honestly, this is not an important enough topic for libertarians or liberals or conservatives or whatever to be discussing compared to other heated debates. If you are experiencing difficulties with your local school's food, either you yourself prepare the lunches for your children or just ask the people themselves. When you have already asked the people and you still find trouble with this menu, please just bear it and move on with your children's education.
Ask your children about it. If you have and they gave you a negative response, tell them you will just prepare lunch for them. Because if you have enough time in your schedule to debate over this topic, you should have enough time to prepare lunch.
I do not support Obama's ideals either, but this is something that should be up to the PEOPLE and not to the authority. Yes, the First Lady might not prepare the best food, but the problem is not the food itself, just how she is trying to provide food herself instead of appointing more experienced health experts or cooks to deal with the food problems.
President Obama is dumb enough. Michelle Obama is even dumber. When I was in school I packed every day because I got more food for a cheaper price an I got what I wanted. At my school a bland tasteless and stale lunch cost 3.50. A standard lunch for me was a sandwich, water, protein bar.
Bread-2.50
Meat 1lb-5.50
Water- basically free
12 pk protein bar- 6.00 dollars
Now when you add this up it is over 3.50 but it got me like 6-7 lunches. Then I was questioned as to why I packed by school authorities. I said the food tastes like crap and it's expensive. If the gov. Keeps putting their nose in my diet pretty soon you will have to buy lunch like in Chicago.
I don't believe it's the governments business to say what kids can and can not eat. I've even heard of kids passing out because they are not eating enough calories in the day because of this program.
Let's face it, if a teenage kid is going to each junk, he is going to eat junk no matter how hard you try for him or her not eating crap.
Finally someone who understands were I am coming from. The kids are fighting back on this issue. And it really does not help when the White House FB page posted a pic of there dogs sitting at a fancy table eating food that appears to be way better than most Americans can afford. This argument is far from over, not on this site but in our lives. I have taught my kids to eat what they are given and to be thankful as we'll. my 15 year old made a choice 4 years ago to not drink pop, as well as anything that have caffeine and high amounts of sugar. He made this choice on his own, I'm so proud of him. There comes a time when parents need to provide better food options for there kids, and it has to be when they are young. It's sad when the step in and start telling us what to feed are kids. But like you said, teens will eat junk if they want to. And there is nothing the government can do about that. Being healthy starts at home before kids enter school.
If you don't like school lunches, you can pack your own. I agree that school lunches are unhealthy and bad so instead of buying lunches, I just pack my own. Some people might say that it takes too long, but how long does it take to make a sandwich? 5 minutes max. And by making your own lunch, you will be spending a bit less or equal to the amount of money you spend on school lunches, so don't go on saying that you can't afford to make your own lunch. And there are healthy items at my school such as: yogurt, carrots, oranges, and apples. How is it the school lunches fault that kids sometimes choose to eat junk food? Just cuz school lunches offer SOME junk food options doesn't mean that you HAVE to take it. Parents should teach their kids to make healthy choices. Kids may not listen to you but you need to MAKE them listen(as long as it isn't abuse)
If you don't like school lunches, you can pack your own.
If everyone packs their lunches, doesn't that prove that Obama screwed up?
I agree that school lunches are unhealthy and bad so instead of buying lunches, I just pack my own.
It isn't about being unhealthy. The lunches are not fit for human consumption.
Some people might say that it takes too long, but how long does it take to make a sandwich? 5 minutes max. And by making your own lunch, you will be spending a bit less or equal to the amount of money you spend on school lunches, so don't go on saying that you can't afford to make your own lunch.
Doesn't the school generate funding with lunches? Shouldn't schools make food that people can actually eat?
And there are healthy items at my school such as: yogurt, carrots, oranges, and apples. How is it the school lunches fault that kids sometimes choose to eat junk food?
That was the point IHateObummer is making. Obama made them get rid of the junk food they chose to eat and replaced it with food that is gross.
Just cuz school lunches offer SOME junk food options doesn't mean that you HAVE to take it. Parents should teach their kids to make healthy choices. Kids may not listen to you but you need to MAKE them listen(as long as it isn't abuse)
Then why are you supporting Obama getting rid of the junk food? Obama decided you are wrong and that kids can't make those decisions.
I agree with this statement. As I am new on this debate forum, I realize now I should have said so much less that what I did so I could get the best results from everyone. Making school lunches for my kids is not the issue, it does save money and it take less than 5 mins, I can afford to as we'll. I used to work for a big public school district in Ne, and there were so many kids who were coming to school hungry, not only were they not getting breakfast but there only meal was at school. Not sure if anyone knows about the back pack program, but we had allot of kids signed up for it at the school I worked at. And every Friday these kids would get a back pack with food in it for the weekend. That food went home and would feed as many as 5 or 6 other kids in some of these family's. I guess I'm more concerned with the kids that are not eating than those that are. Mrs. Obama took a stand agaiant fat kids, I get it. But what about the thousand's of other kids that are not getting food outside of school. I guess we need to feed are kids PERIODE! Regardless of how we feel about obama or the new lunches.. I guess I have way more things to debate about than I thought. But I just wish we could banned together and make sure that all the children in this country went to bed with a full belly instead of eating dry rice crispys for dinner and having to make them last a week or more.
I believe that children should have healthy options and more traditional options. But I also believe that children should be educated in nutrition in public schools. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force them to drink. We should teach children about their health but ultimately, you have to leave the decision of what they eat up to them. Otherwise, they will not learn the consequences of their choices and cannot learn to make the right choices.
