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Question for Andy

Last year Andy agreed to clean the site up , the traffic is virtually zero as most have left and all because one vicious troll called Burrito with his 70 odd accounts is allowed post his vicious bile ad nauseum on a daily basis , the site is now a joke as this troll patrols 24/7 looking for fight

Question what is the actual point of this site as it’s certainly not debate?



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I'm still here...

There are so many instances of swearing for which the user BurritoLunch should have been banned. And yet... he's still here.

BurritoLunch(5292) Clarified
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There are so many instances of swearing for which the user BurritoLunch should have been banned.

The very fact that you are singling me alone out for swearing when 80 percent of members here do it illustrates that you are a disingenuous scumbag who is looking to try to have other members banned because of a personal vendetta.

Worse, you have now revealed yourself to be an alt account, since I have done or said nothing to you on that account to warrant this type of personal attack. Hence, I am left to conclude that Andy has already banned you, which really shows us what a scumbag you are to be coming back on other accounts to attack other members from a website you have already been banned from.

AThAPhys(87) Disputed
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To be fair, I do agree that plenty of other members, including the creator of this debate, do swear a lot on this site. However, in the pinned post called 'Keep Calm and Follow The Rules' it does say that swearing is not allowed, and that you will be banned if you do it.

I did call you out for it a few times, and yet you continue to do it.

I am not an alt account. You have no proof for your claim.

I like your trance music more than I like your debating tactics by a long shot.

the traffic is virtually zero as most have left and all because one vicious troll called Burrito

You're literally pathetic, Dermot. Absolutely, utterly pathetic.

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Hi Dermot,

On this site anything goes and the standard of debate material is determined by the lowest common deNominator.

If we wish to continue participating in CD'S gutter forum then we must consider the possibility, if not the probability that A.N.D.Y., is only the marketable title of some sort of consortium which includes Nom within its ranks.

Dermot(5796) Disputed
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Hi Micone , if not the probability that A.N.D.Y., is only the marketable title of some sort of consortium which includes Nom within its ranks.

Yes it seems like Andy couldn’t give a toss either way , I bet he would never admit to family and work colleagues he has anything to do with this cesspit , if one looks at the postings most are Nom agreeing with Nom as in his Alt accounts the guy is seriously mentally unwell

Rusticus(1986) Disputed
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@ Dermot -"if one looks at the postings most are Nom agreeing with Nom as in his Alt accounts the guy is seriously mentally unwell"

But when Bronto does that exact same thing all day long every day, day in day out month after month and year after year you don't mind a bit. Isn't that interesting.

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My impression of CD is that it operates rather strongly on the principle that we get out what we put in. We feed the trolls, we get troll infestations and all that that entails. Every so often users complain about the trolls but we're feeding them in nearly the same breath and not doing much ourselves to improve the quality of the forum. Given that forum administration is resource intensive with little compensation, I can't really fault Andy for not allocating resources to a forum that hasn't shown itself willing to meet that effort. I'd also suggest that if this is a question for Andy that a dm might be more effective than a public blast.

Dermot(5796) Clarified
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also suggest that if this is a question for Andy that a dm might be more effective than a public blast.

Last year several DM messages were exchanged between me and Andy he promised to clean the site up and introduce moderators, this didn’t happen .......several months went by and he stated emphatically he would take action and as usual nothing happened ......

This is a last attempt to get him on board

The quality of the forum was excellent when I first joined , look at how many members fled when Nom was allowed troll unabated and permitted to open 70 odd accounts

Here in lies the problem people like Nom are allowed free reign to spout hate and bile and go uncensored .......I leave them all at it from now on unless action is taken as this site is not worthy to call itself a debate site

Jace(5052) Clarified
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Didn't appreciate the prior dm history. Public appeal makes somewhat more sense.

I've been on CD longer than you (presuming you didn't have an alt before) and I don't recall CD being significantly higher quality before. It if it was, it wasn't because Andy was more present and authoritarian; it would've been on account of the users. Which was really the emphasis of my original remarks.

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Thank you! !

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It's been getting harder to find the debates worth commenting on. Usually when you do find one you get someone else posting sexual garbage that has nothing to do about the debate and everything to do with wanting attention. Sadly I don't know of any quality debate sites that don't have the same issue.

It's been getting harder to find the debates worth commenting on. Usually when you do find one you get someone else posting sexual garbage that has nothing to do about the debate and everything to do with wanting attention. Sadly I don't know of any quality debate sites that don't have the same issue.

A lot of corporate money has been spent flooding these sites with right wing trolls. But the thing which annoys me the most about this site in particular are the affiliate marketers. I'm semi-convinced these posts are all coming from one troll who does it because they think it's funny.

Jace(5052) Clarified
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It's been getting harder to find the debates worth commenting on.

Has it? My recollection is that they've always been the exception to the rule, on debate forums in general as well as here on CD.

Sadly I don't know of any quality debate sites that don't have the same issue.

It's not really surprising, though. Moderation takes a lot of effort and doesn't have much reward. Users have to have some accountability to enforcing their own interests because site moderators often (and I'd say understandably) can't be bothered. CD has more tools for users to do that than some other places (e.g. being able to ban users on your debates).

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just being curious about if this site will continue to work or not...really like it anyways...

addltd(5132) Clarified
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Yes, it will continue. I am working right now on cleaning up the advertising spammers. Then will come the "great cleansing" where some of the people will get their accounts banned...after a very strong warning before deleting them.

Yes, it will continue. I am working right now on cleaning up the advertising spammers.

Honestly mate, I hope you can ban whoever keeps doing that. It's the single most annoying thing about this website. They flood the site every day.

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The ''NOM PROBLEM'' stems from one of two reasons or a combination of both.

It must be recognised that Nom is stark ravening mad and/or he and the elusive, so called Andy are one of the same.

Like all those suffering from Tourette's Syndrome Nom/Andy cannot stop themselves from using swear words, usually ones with sexual connotations.

AS WELL AS SUFFERING FROM THE ABOVE MENTIONED MENTAL CONDITION NOM/ANDY IS ALSO A MULTI PERSONALITY SCHIZOPHRENIC AND HE/THEY REGARD THIS SITE AS THEIR OWN.

C.D., IS ALSO THE THE FULL EXTENT OF NOM'S/ANDY'S LIFE AND HE/THEY ONLY WANT THE FEW PARTICIPANTS WHO AGREE WITH THEIR MADCAP LOONY LEFT POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

MAN, MAN OH MAN.

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The ''NOM PROBLEM'' stems from one of two reasons or a combination of both.

The problem is that you are a bully who likes to pick on people for no reason other than they disagree with you about politics. That's the problem.

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It must be recognised that Nom is stark ravening mad and/or he and the elusive, so called Andy are one of the same.

And I'm the one of us who is mad, yes?

You haven't even used the correct word you bizarre dolt. It's "raving mad". Ravening means hungry.