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Religious Conservative Republicans stand up for what's right.
And this is why conservatives will "NEVER EVER GAIN SUPPORT IN AMERICA, YOUR PARTY IS FUCKED UP" You ever wonder why I am so hard on religious fundamentalist conservative Republicans, well here it is, it's assholes like this that make the religious look bad, People of faith here me out, "YOU MUST DISOWN PEOPLE LIKE THIS PUBLICLY", I know there are some good religious people out there and some good conservatives, but your party has got taken over by "NUT JOBS".
I am asking if you are a conservative or what ever will you stand up and help rid people representing conservative values in this way, like this guys and others like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Ted Cruz, Michele Bachmann, Rand Paul and Fox News?
If not say "GOOD BYE" to your party and any sympathy towards any of your religious views.
HAHA I wish these guys could just die of every fucking disease, Republicans don't give a shit about minorities or people who are secular all they care about old white Christians fucks, rich people corporations and other special interests if minority groups are useful idiots for the liberals (which they are not) bigoted redneck idiots are for the conservatives. How can a party that preaches this horseshit ever get fucking elected ever again?
HAHA I wish these guys could just die of every fucking disease, Republicans don't give a shit about minorities
If you were alive many years ago, you probably would have supported the Republicans. Up until 1964, Democrats were viewed as the "Southern" political party. Do you know which party ended slavery? The Republicans. The Democrats supported slavery. The KKK was actually created by a group of Democrats. Times have obviously changed, but the fact of the matter is that the Democratic party, as well as the USA, would be very different if they had gotten their way regarding the abolishment of slavery. In a sense, the Democratic party that you (I assume that's who you support) and many others support, was created by the Republicans.
There are without a doubt, some conservative nut jobs out there... but the same goes for liberals. What it comes down to is who is the better candidate. Choosing someone because of the letter that appears next to their name is retarded. That is why we keep getting shitty presidents.
Carter(D) sucked, so we elected Reagan(R). Reagan was good, so we elected Bush(R). Bush wasn't so great, so we elected Clinton(D). Clinton was impeached after a lot of controversy, so we elected Bush(R). Bush was a mess, so we elected Obama(D). Do you see the pattern? It isn't the party that matters, it's the candidate.
First of all I was talking about the Republican party in the context of the modern conservative Republican party but lets remove party descriptions and replace it with ideological descriptions I am a progressive first and a democrat second don't forget that! Lincoln was a progressive he may have been a Republican but he still had a liberal agenda and so on. Anyway I should end my point by explaining my opinions on the presidents listed.
Nixon was good until Watergate happened then he was impeached.
Gerald Ford took office for the the following 2 years nobody fucking liked him!
Carter got elected in 76 he was cool because he was the first non interventionist president since like 1913 but he got a lot of shit for the Iranian issue despite the fact that freeing them was in carters negotiations.
Reagan may have been perceived as a good president but in all reality he was one of our shittiest presidents he started the trickle down economics movement, cutting taxes on the rich and de regulating corporations which set the stage for the shit we are in today.
HW Bush was no better except Americans were less excited about him than Reagan Bush started the first war in Iraq setting the stage for our modern foreign policy a bit, and the minute Americans realized the hypocrisy on his tax position they immediately elected Clinton.
Clinton never was impeached but he got a lot of shit for the Monica Lewinsky controversy still being mocked about it to this day but Clinton was a brilliant President regardless.
W Bush was elected as a result of the impatience of Floridian Republicans, the Republican national committee contacted federal court to stop all recounts, when failing to do so they went to the supreme court and they did it successfully and announced Bush the winner a year later a study confirmed that had the recounts in Florida resumed Al Gore would have won the election so Bushes election was entirely an accident not a result of Clinton's controversy.
Bush was terrible so we elected Obama, Obama was a disappointment but not as terrible as people make him out to be also I think we are probably going to elect Clinton 2 so maybe it is not a pattern!
You should have clicked "support", because that's what your argument did for me. Since I never listed Nixon or Ford in my previous argument, then I'll add them... and more!
Kennedy(D) was assasinated, so his vice president took over. Johnson(D) sucked, so Nixon was elected. Nixon(R) was impeached, so his VP took over. Ford(R) sucked, so Carter(D) was elected... and that's where my previous list began.
My point is that there is a pattern and we can predict who the next president will be, based on how well the previous President did. Instead of looking at the candidate as an individual, people look at the party. That is why we keep getting shitty presidents! Whether you like it or not, a Republican will probably be elected next.
Gerald Ford took office for the the following 2 years nobody fucking liked him!
Republican; you don't like him.
Carter got elected in 76 he was cool because he was the first non interventionist president since like 1913 but he got a lot of shit for the Iranian issue despite the fact that freeing them was in carters negotiations.
Democrat; you like him!
Reagan may have been perceived as a good president but in all reality he was one of our shittiest presidents he started the trickle down economics movement, cutting taxes on the rich and de regulating corporations which set the stage for the shit we are in today.
Republican; you don't like him.
HW Bush was no better except Americans were less excited about him than Reagan Bush started the first war in Iraq setting the stage for our modern foreign policy a bit, and the minute Americans realized the hypocrisy on his tax position they immediately elected Clinton.
Republican; you don't like him.
Clinton never was impeached but he got a lot of shit for the Monica Lewinsky controversy still being mocked about it to this day but Clinton was a brilliant President regardless.
Democrat; you like him!
W Bush was elected as a result of the impatience of Floridian Republicans, the Republican national committee contacted federal court to stop all recounts, when failing to do so they went to the supreme court and they did it successfully and announced Bush the winner a year later a study confirmed that had the recounts in Florida resumed Al Gore would have won the election so Bushes election was entirely an accident not a result of Clinton's controversy.
Republican; you don't like him.
Bush was terrible so we elected Obama, Obama was a disappointment but not as terrible as people make him out to be also I think we are probably going to elect Clinton 2 so maybe it is not a pattern!
Democrat; you like him!
I pointed all of that out to show how biased you are. You clearly like your candidates based on the party... and that is the problem. Each of these President's records speak for themselves.
I never said I liked Obama I portrayed him as a disappointment, instead of saying Democrat you like him you should have said Democrat you have no real problem with him Also Hillary Clinton (D) is probably going to be president next so that is really going to end the pattern.
I never said I liked Obama I portrayed him as a disappointment, instead of saying Democrat you like him you should have said Democrat you have no real problem with him
Obama sucks. You should have a problem with him. I'm not conservative, and even I can see that. You don't have a problem with him because he is a Democrat.
Hillary Clinton (D) is probably going to be president next so that is really going to end the pattern.
What's funny is I think this is beginning to sound like conservative bias! If she wins, which I don't think she will. So far passed this election the Democrats have the advantage in the electoral map. Virginia which I thought was going to be the most crucial state of the night turns out Obama won that by a higher margin than he won the popular vote therefore Virginia is now more Democratic than the average state, the Republicans have nowhere to go in 2016 unless they get somebody like Rubio to oppose somebody other than Clinton. Also if Bill won I don't see how his wife can't, the electoral map is probably going to turn out similar to 1992 and 1996 with Clinton winning the common red states of Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana and even Arizona if the Republican has a chance of taking traditional Democratic states good for them, but not only does Clinton have the advantage in the Arkansas area the states we expected to be very tight in 2012 turned out to look like average blue states if the Republicans CAN'T take any blue states they will be totally lost in the 2016 election! Overall though I think the map is going to be a mix of 1992 and 1996.
As for my thoughts on Obama As I had said before Obama was a disappointment but he still did great things for the country, the affordable health care act was passed under him making him the first president to pass a law for universal health care. Obama repealed Don't ask don't tell! He ended the war in Iraq and killed Osama Bin Laden. And he passed the dream act. The debt is beginning to drop as well. My problem is that he another corporate drone in office the top 1% of Americans own 40% of the nations wealth and Obama won't do anything about it. The corporate tax rate is still the second lowest in the world as well! He has not signed any bill to ban assault weapons. Also he happens to support capital punishment and the war on drugs!
What's funny is I think this is beginning to sound like conservative bias! If she wins, which I don't think she will.
I already told you that I am not conservative. I'm trying to convince you to be unbiased. If you were a conservative trash-talking all liberals, then I'd still be arguing with you.
I don't think Clinton will win. I never said that I don't want her to win... even though I don't.
the Republicans have nowhere to go in 2016 unless they get somebody like Rubio to oppose somebody other than Clinton.
Obama's final term will be the deciding factor. So far it doesn't look good for the Democrat's.
Also if Bill won I don't see how his wife can't
I never said she can't, I just don't think she will. If she does win, it won't be because of who her husband is.
As for my thoughts on Obama As I had said before Obama was a disappointment but he still did great things for the country, the affordable health care act was passed under him making him the first president to pass a law for universal health care.
Obamacare is a bunch of shit. It's cons outweigh it's pros.
He ended the war in Iraq and killed Osama Bin Laden.
The war wasn't with Iraq, it's with Al Qaeda. We no longer have a military presence in Iraq, but we're still in the Middle East. Turn on the news, we're going to war with Syria! So now we are not only at war with Al Qaeda... but Syria as well. He didn't end a war, he added one.
And he passed the dream act.
Education for illegal immigrants? Yeah, that was real important...
The debt is beginning to drip as well.
The debt has increased by more than $6 Trillion dollars since he took office his second term. It is the largest debt increase under any President.
Doesn't mean this is not really conservative propaganda.
It's not. You just think that anyone who doesn't compliment the liberals or trash talk the conservatives is spreading conservative propaganda... the video however, is total bullshit.
Oh so tell me why it is so shitty and tell me how its cons outweigh the pros.
-The majority of companies will have to pay for the expensive healthcare or face a federal fine.
-It introduces at least twenty new taxes that total at $500 Billion.
-Many doctors will no longer be able to see Medicare patients.
-Family policy has risen $2,200 under Obama, when he promised to cut it by $2,500. Healthcare will cost more.
-It will lead to a "doctor-shortage" do to government control over their decisions. Nearly half of all doctors have said they may quit if Obamacare goes into effect.
-It will cost around $2 Trillion, leading to an even larger deficit.
Those are just a few of the cons.
Again he ended the war in Iraq just because we are going to war with Syria doesn't mean we did not end the war in Iraq.
The enemy we were fighting in Iraq, is still our current enemy. It was called "The War IN Iraq" for a reason. The enemy is spread throughout the Middle East.
Bush increased the debt by 105% he doubled the debt. And also the debt has been dropping since 2012.
Debt increased by $4.9 Trillion under Bush. Obama increased the debt by $6 Trillion.
The majority of companies will have to pay for healthcare or face a federal fine.
No you are wrong on that a provision in the affordable health care act states that businesses with over 50 employees have to pay for their health insurance, do you know how many businesses that effects? 1% of businesses! clearly it is not the majority of businesses. Also originally conservatives were in favor of the individual mandate fuck they introduced the whole thing.
It introduces taxes
The government will use the money on health insurance, the taxes are good.
It will cost around $2 Trillion, leading to an even larger deficit.
Actually Obamacare cuts the deficit by $127 billion.
No you are wrong on that a provision in the affordable health care act states that businesses with over 50 employees have to pay for their health insurance, do you know how many businesses that effects? 1% of businesses!
Fair enough, however the number is more like 5% not 1%. This will effect growing businesses though.
Actually Obamacare cuts the deficit by $127 billion.
$6 Trillion would be the long term deficit.
I hope you didn't get that information off of Barackobama.com lol.
Yeah Obama ended the war IN Iraq!
He withdrew our troops from Iraq, we're still fighting the war! Do you not understand this?
Okay, so you addressed three of the issues with Obamacare and only four of the issues I brought up in my previous argument. I really wanted to know your opinion on ALL of it... but if you don't have one, then that is fine.
Did I really or are you just saying that? Has your mindset changed at all, as a result of my arguments? That's my goal.
Since you assumed I was a conservative throughout a lot of this debate, I figured I'd share some info with you... I supported Obama back in 2008. However, I was younger and dumber back then. I have a better understanding of politics now.
You did partly change my mindset I mean I've always been opposed to what Obama had been doing with Syria but I had always viewed getting out of Iraq an accomplishment looking at it now after your argument it was completely insignificant. You also got me with the debt Obama raised it to a higher rate than Bush but you failed to acknowledge that the debt has been dropping since 2012, also I kind of got you on most of the Obamacare debate especially on saving money its not as bad as Republicans like Ted Cruise and Mitch McConnell make it. Also it kind of made sense to support Obama in 2008 I mean Bush was leaving office there was no better guy to vote for but him even the libertarians which I assume your political positions link up to the most had Bob Barr, nobody liked Barr so I don't really think you were fooled. Also quite clearly I don't think you are a Conservative but the way you debated seemed a little center right IMO!
Well that's partly good news... but I don't think you got me on the Obamacare argument other than that one statement regarding the 50+ employees. Obamacare is still more trouble than it's worth.
The debt may be decreasing, but not very fast... and if we enter a war with Syria, then there is a possibility that the debt will begin to increase again.
I also Pwned you when I brought up the fact that Obamacare cuts $127 billion from the deficit which I had gotten the article from the completely bipartisan CBO company. I don't know where you got the $2 trillion number but It was probably from a conservative leaning source.
CBO keeps changing the price tag for Obamacare. The total cost was originally determined to be about $900 billion over the first decade, now they think it will cost around $1.8 Trillion. That is double what they originally thought.
Education for illegal immigrants? Yeah, that was real important...
I plan to be an immigrant, (I'd rather not say whether it is legal or illegal here), I resent that a little. To be honest though, the dream act can have a lot of practicalities.
But you are right, the only thing Barack has going for him is that he is black and does whatever the people want him to do.... passing laws that will get him votes. He is not very impressive.
I plan to be an immigrant, (I'd rather not say whether it is legal or illegal here), I resent that a little. To be honest though, the dream act can have a lot of practicalities.
I don't like the idea of illegal immigrants coming over and taking advantage of our system. I have no problem with someone moving here legally.
But you are right, the only thing Barack has going for him is that he is black and does whatever the people want him to do.... passing laws that will get him votes. He is not very impressive.
I don't think he does what "everyone" wants him to do. He tries to appeal to the minorities rather than everyone. He is very unimpressive, especially considering the fact that he ran on a moral agenda and then ditched it once he got into office.
People always say that Republicans are the worse of two parties, I never knew anything you pointed out. Me "screwing knowledge" allows me to be ignorant about this in all ways
That's what I'm saying lol, there is no way in hell they will ever hold higher office with people like this lol, I feel kind of bad in a way because they are just making all religious republican look bad, did you know just a few weeks ago, in the state of Maine 13 republican representatives left the republican party, they said it was because of shit like this.
The racist fundamentalist redneck Christians hijacked the republican party lol, so in a nut shell the republican party got hijacked by the KKK 2.0 lol, I'm even starting to see some of the Libertarian party starting to get infiltrated by those whack jobs like Alex Jones lol.
Well I mainly feel enraged at these fucking assholes I don't feel that they deserve sympathy what so ever lol I really do like watching shit like this because the more I do the more loathe these bastards and I love it!
Well I mainly feel enraged at these fucking assholes I don't feel that they deserve sympathy what so ever lol I really do like watching shit like this because the more I do the more loathe these bastards and I love it!
Right, because this post makes you seem far superior than those you oppose...
O for sure they piss me off too, but it's not all Republicans and even Christians it's the fundamentalist ones, but I feel ya for sure, I would love to punch one in the mouth !
Well of course this guy's an idiot and has clue what he's talking about. However, I don't think that conservative Christians are the only major group with nutjobs. You could really say the same about almost any party or group of people, it's nothing new.
You found one of the biggest conservative idiots on YouTube. Good job. Is he an important conservative figure, at all? I truly want to know, because I have no idea who he is.
One person's views do not speak for an entire party.
What about people like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, yes I know Alex is Lib but he's still a conservative Christian extremist?
Rush runs the modern day Republican party, yes he does, maybe not by recognition but by default he does, what are your thoughts on people like him and the others I listed?
I think this video is actually really cool. A lot of times all you ever see in the news is the seemingly outrageous stuff that controversial people say. But given a broader and deeper context, it's much harder to criminalize a person for a remark.
Thats a great video thank you for sharing, I love Penn, and I understood his meaning in this video, then again the door swings both ways, maybe we are just all miss understood, most want freedom and happiness, we just all show it differently in our own ways, no matter how fucked up it may seem.
What about people like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, yes I know Alex is Lib but he's still a conservative Christian extremist?
These are the type of people who vote based on the party, not by the individual. The Democrat's have them too.
Alex Jones will likely never be satisfied. He's just a conspiracy theorist.
Rush runs the modern day Republican party, yes he does, maybe not by recognition but by default he does, what are your thoughts on people like him and the others I listed?
Rush doesn't run anything other than a radio show.
History has shown us that if the previous president is a Democrat and he sucks... then we elect a Republican next, and vice versa.
These people do not matter. They represent themselves.
( Inhales through clenched teeth) Fffffffff, Well religious Conservative Republicanism is not something I reeeaaaally stand for.. I'm actually, you better sit down, actually rather the opposite!
I was writing something and then the power went out. Damn, no internet.
I know that not all conservatives are like this, and while I do find their attitudes to be strongly disagreeable, I won't associate all of them to this creep.
I stopped taking it seriously at the word 'godless' and just stopped watching at 'gays' because the nutjob had already listed homosexuals and redundancy is redundant.
