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The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em Right wingers NEVER lie
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Repub governors SAY they support coverage for pre-existing conditions, but SUE to stop it

Hello:

Yup, it IS kinda crazy, but that's exactly what right wing governors are doing.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/twenty-states-sue-the-federal-government-seeking-an-end-to-obamacare.html

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The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em

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Right wingers NEVER lie

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Repub governors SAY they support coverage for pre-existing conditions, but SUE to stop it

Dishonest headline.

Stopping a piss poor bill that has one thing you like in it is not the same as simply opposing the one thing you like in the bill.

Your dishonest attempt is the same as someone creating a bill that says we get to:

Punch you in the face.

Pour boiling water on you.

Beat you with bats.

And you get Superbowl tickets.

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Then you reject the bill, and I say you must be anti Superbowl tickets.

In reality, the bill sucked.

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em
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Democrats said they wanted kids to not be seperated from their families. Trump orders it. Democrats sued him, and blocked it. Reason; you can't hold kids in cells while their parents are vetted.

The Nazi death camps that weren't death camps during Obama's tenure because he did it less but some but less but only some.

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How 'bout taking $1 from every highly overpriced prescription or over-the-counter, and putting it in a fund to pay for it. Then there'd be more people with pre-existing conditions around to buy meds. A win-win for Big Pharma! Maybe $2??? after all, a life saving med that should cost $15, but costs $1500 … leaves a bit to play around with! :-)

Side: Right wingers NEVER lie
Crank(65) Disputed
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It'll never happen because the Democrats are fully in bed with big pharma.

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Crank(65) Disputed
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How Cory Booker went from progressive hero to traitor in under 2 days

But by Thursday, the story about Booker had flipped. The New Jersey senator and 12 other Senate Democrats had joined the bulk of the Republican caucus to kill a proposal aimed at lowering prescription drug prices. What made Booker’s vote all the more anguishing for the left is that the proposal won the backing of 13 Republican senators, and had a real chance of passing.

The recriminations came quickly. “This is classic Booker — stand out front on feel-good social issues, regardless of his past positions, and align with big money everywhere else,” wrote Walter Bragman at Paste Magazine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2017/1/14/14262732/cory-booker-senate-democrats

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outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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How 'bout taking $1 from every highly overpriced prescription or over-the-counter, and putting it in a fund to pay for it. Then there'd be more people with pre-existing conditions around to buy meds. A win-win for Big Pharma! Maybe $2??? after all, a life saving med that should cost $15, but costs $1500 … leaves a bit to play around with! :-)

DUMMY what you babbling about today ? DUMMY do you not know that meds can be bought over the internet ? How stupid are you IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES ?

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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GRANDPAW when will you SOCIALIST fix the BIG PHARMA you complain about ??

DUMMY you SOCIALIST do not want to fix any problem but Kleenex stock rises !!!!!!

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em
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SUPER STUPID do you have a pre-existing condition that needs to be dealt with ? Could it be TDS ? LMMFAO ! DUMMY you are a SWORD SWALLOWER for Left !!!!!!!!!!

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Hello excon:

It's even CRAZIER than that.. When Obama made coverage for pre-existing conditions a hallmark of Obamacare, right wingers asked, HOW you gonna PAY for it.. It's a good question. The answer was MANDATES..

But, Trump ELIMINATED the mandates...

So, this left winger asks right wingers, HOW you gonna PAY for it??

http://wqow.com/news/top-stories/2018/10/28/governor-scott-walker-talk-pre-existing- conditions/

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Side: Right wingers NEVER lie
CrapWeasel(534) Disputed
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I'd say axe it and stop making half the country pay ridiculous amounts to fuel a "free" system for the other half. If my kids can die in the streets, so can theirs.

Thanks for boosting my premiums to ungodly amounts and fining people without insurance. You guys are saints.

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AveSatanas(4425) Clarified
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So you want millions kicked off healthcare and an uptick of tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths because you dont want 5% of your taxes going to healthcare for people less fortunate.

Glad to see the party of family values give so few fucks about the american family.

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em
Crank(65) Disputed
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The answer was MANDATES..

But, Trump ELIMINATED the mandates...

Sweet. Punishing people who can't get insurance with a $1,000+ fine is noble as hell.

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em
AveSatanas(4425) Disputed
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Individual mandates is a republican idea. The heritage foundation drafted the idea decades ago as a healthcare rwform. Nixon, bob dole, and newt gingrich all championed it among others. Romney passed it in mass.

Yes its a shit idea and a bandaid on a gaping wound that is our broken healthcare system. But its actually a right wing policy.

Also most people didnt even get hit with the fine. It was in the policy but very few people actually got a bill for it. Partially due to the poor rollout of obamacare

Side: Right wingers NEVER lie
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID what mandates are you babbling about ? Did you wake up in another confused world this morning ? Honestly you Leftist have to be the STUPIDEST people on the planet !

Side: The Dems DON'T wanna cover 'em