Republican Party: A Radical Insurgency?
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I wouldn't say the party itself is a radical insurgency at all, but there is indeed a group that is a radical insurgency politically speaking. A small minority within the Republican party has adopted an ideological stance that, by the standards of Western political science, is radical, and they have hijacked the political process on a number of occasions, several of which directly harmed the country. The problem is that the tail is starting to wag the dog, so to speak, and the "radicals" are starting to run the party. It's unfortunate, as many moderates Conservative commentators have gone on the record and said, but in many ways its self defeating. As they continue to push out moderates and further alienate racial and religious minorities, they further decrease the odds of winning national elections. Eventually, they'll either be replaced, or leave us with a one party system. A one party system with Democratics. I truly shudder at the thought. Side: No doubt
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They won't. They don't have the political infrastructure, or the popular ideological support, to break out into a main party. Not only that, but ideologically they are too contrarian to serve as a legitimate watchdog party, as they would essentially oppose just about any government involvement. Considering that's pretty extreme in terms of the ideological makeup of this country, we would quite possibly end up right where we are now, with an opposition party that prevents just about anything from being done. No, we need Conservatives to reorganize into a legitimate opposition party again. One that will temper attempts at Progressive progress without obstructing absolutely everything. Side: No doubt
You DO realize that most Libertarians are Conservative Republicans, don't you? I know that you can be liberal and also have some Libertarian ideas, but I would hazard that, oh, probably 75% of the folks in America who call themselves Libertarians usually vote GOP. Because it is much closer overall to the Libertarians ethos than are the Dems. These days a Libertarian vote is pretty much a wasted one. A cry of protest, basically. Those guys hardly ever win. So most Libertarians with a sense of realpolitik will pull the lever for a GOP guy. Side: No doubt
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Herbert Marcuse beat Hillary to that claim, if indeed Hillary ever said such a thing. But yes, when an entity - such as a political party - is willing to put human efforts to save the species on hold with the expectation that some supernatural being will do it for us - the ultimate deus ex machina - they are radical, and their rebellion against rationality and good sense makes them an insurgency. So, in conclusion, the Republican Party would seem to be a radical insurgency. Side: No doubt
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Again, as I exp!aimed over on your Killer Asteroid debate, this is a weak effort from you, Pantsy. If you would take a few minutes to look up the definitions of the words Radical and Insurgence, I am confident you will find that the GOP meets neither definition. You need to brush up on your Political Science. If you did you would find that contrary to what many who are not savvy in this field believe, neither the GOP nor the DNC are to the far edges of the political spectrum. That is, to the far right and left, respectively. Rather, they sit side be side in the middle. We learn this in even undergrad Poli Sci. Look it up. Ergo...the term Radical is very inaccurate. Further, the term Insurgency refers to a sudden or recent attack, and infiltration, into an existing government. Or a controlling entity. Since the GOP has been a part of the Government for practically since it's inception, beginning with the White, that term is also very wrong. There! I just gave you a primer def for both. Off the top of my head. But I still wish you would look the defs up for yourself. So you will know for sure I am correct. And you are wrong. Please do better next time! Oh...your debate header was also pasted from a quote by Thomas Mann, who is a. Far left Liberal Democrat. Hardly an objective source, eh? LOL Thanks. Side: No way
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Had you clicked on the link you'd have seen that these are not my words but the words of Ornstein, which Noam Chomsky frequently quotes during his interviews. I agree with Noam. The Democrats are right-to-center. The Republicans "are so far to the right that they don't even pretend to be a party anymore" (paraphrase). They allow God to come into the picture far too much, trusting in Him to take care of climate change, wanting to marry the government with religion, etc. Being a radical fundamentalist Christian is virtually necessary to win the election, and each president since Carter has made a huge show of his religiosity. And sure, the Republican Party has been around awhile, but that doesn't mean they can't - and they have, a lot - change. I mean, Eisenhower was a Republican, and during his presidency (from 1944 until 1963) the top tax bracket was OVER 90% (at one time reaching 94%), and it was under LBJ - the Democrat - that taxes went soaring downhill. Side: No doubt
I did click on the link. And it was Mann who wrote the article. Chomsky? Really? Is that your idea of an objective source? He is so far to the left that he probably would call Obama a Conservative. And whoever thinks the DNC is right of center knows nothing about American politics. I don't care who wrote that. Going to Chomsky is like me going to George Will. Which I wouldn't do! Oh....I didn't see where you proved I was wrong about the true defs of radical and Insurgency, and how in view of those defs your claim re the Republicans in clearly wrong. Maybe I missed it? LOL Side: No way
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