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I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
Debate Score:52
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 I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa (13)
 
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Say Hello to President Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Elect: Donald John Trump



First they ignored him, then they laughed at him, then they fought him, then he won.

How do you like them apples, MSM and all you nattering nabobs of negativism?



I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

Side Score: 22
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I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!

Side Score: 30
4 points

I'm here to admit I called this one wrong.

The core of my message remains the same though.

As an independent and a moderate I have been dismayed by our two party system in the USA for decades. Yes, through the choke hold of Democrat and Republican Parties the choices we get each time are virtually rigged. And also with conservative and liberal ideologies superimposed on top of that whether right or wrong we end up with little more than left vs right...

So where is the middle, folks? Where is compromise or balance? Where is listening to each other? And how can anyone get truth anymore when it's either slanted mainstream news or the wild propaganda of facebook and internet memes?

Regardless, the USA has chosen what more than half of you thought was the lesser of the two evils. But in doing so you actually chose the riskier one. The one who may break not just the political choke hold but the actual nation. Big gamble. Not one I was willing to take myself.

Most of the world is horrified, stocks are falling, in a sense it's like a USA Brexit. And now you have (potentially) a racist, sexist, egomaniac for President.

Anyway, those of us desperately against his election now need to honor our democratic process and give him a chance to see what he'll do. And those of you desperately for him now need to hold him to the scrutiny you did Obama and Clinton. And with Republican control of all of Washington whatever comes out of this will rest on you Trump supporters.

It's going to be a wild ride.

But through it all, if we actually think and listen to each other and try to find any middle ground we can turn any President's time into a win for the whole country. It's time to stop slamming each other now and gear up to get to work on what comes next.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
2 points

It's time to stop slamming each other now and gear up to get to work on what comes next.

I agree. Regardless of what Trump does, the people can save themselves and their own country. It's just a matter of how it happens. Has it happened before? I'm not historically savvy enough to tell you but I think it may have somewhere. We need to come together as a society and decide to be an active society. A passive society is a submissive society and right now we're pretty passive when it comes to action. I mean a lot more than words.

We need to take action ourselves. We can't rely on leaders to do it for us. The only question is how.

Although Trump is a lot better than having Killary.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

his name is donald john trump ....................................

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
2 points

not james ........................................................

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

Thanks, correction made.

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Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!

i was devastated by the news .not enough that i wish i had voted for hillary instead of gary, but still devastated .how did god let this happen ?

i know hillary was a terrible candidate, but that is no reason to vote for the worst person you can imagine .i can only hope that trump doesnt do most of the stupid things that i think he will, such as giving putin the nuclear codes .

let democrats and republicans both learn from this .people are sick of 16 years of tyranny .they want something different and will do anything to get it .if you want to save america, but aside your silly agenda and elect the damn libertarian next time !

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
2 points

I am not a Clintonite but rather an Moderate Independant.

And I am inviting you to yuck it up now and wallow in your victory. Get it while you can. You don't have that much time, amigo.

I give it about a year before irreparable harm is done to my country due to Trumpian escapades. Be it either creating another Civil War, or getting us into a foreign war that will kill thousands of young Americans.

Wait and see. And remember where you heard this. I suggest you save this post so you can give me due credit when it turns out I am right. I have historically had a keen nack for predicting political catastrophes.

And America just got herself into one.

SS

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

I doubt he winning gives him even a tiny bit more respect from anybody, so I don't understand this ''na-na-na you lose'' attitude. Everybody kinda lost.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

If Trump applies his business acumen to running the country and heeds the advice of his advisers as how best to implement his other proposed policies he could be exactly what the United States needs to turn it's fortunes around.

No more ''easy touch'' America.

No more using the U.S, as a dumping ground for cheap and nasty Asian goods.

No more meeting 75% of the cost for the defense of Europe.

No more exorbitant corporation tax which was driving American companies to relocate their operations overseas.

No more uncontrolled immigration.

These were/are the issues which ordinary Americans wanted resolved and which the weak kneed Democrats didn't even address.

Obama was all fart and no crap, now let's see if Trump is the man which we all think he is.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
SlapShot(2608) Clarified
2 points

No more uncontrolled immigration.

You need to know that in eight years Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other POTUS in history. Look it up.

Also, the numbers of Illegals has been dwindling for four years, and the numbers of deportations rising. To the point that more people were deported than entered illegally over the past eight years.

Again..you are cordially invited to research this yourself.

Also...we have never been an easy touch. We are still the strongest and greatest nation on the fucking planet. And have been for over a century. Don't mistake being the world's watchdog for being easy.

Last, just because we are a nation of rabid consumers and global traders, is not the same as being a dumping ground. If we did not want those Chinese goods we would not have them. It is not as if the chinks are dumping their unwanted goods here against our wishes. It's just a Free Market economy.

Don't hold your breath and that "exorbitant" corporate taxes going away under Trump either.

SS

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
3 points

I said, 'No more uncontrolled immigration'.

That is ''no more, finished, ended, terminated''.

Whether the deportation of illegal immigrants is up down or sideways is irrelevant.

The same principle applies to the apparent reduction in ''ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS''.

If they're ''ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS' they will be working in the black economy and therefore not paying their just and lawful taxes.

The definition of the term illegal is; contrary to, or forbidden by law.

So, by definition these people are criminals.

You don't have to lecture me on the role which the United States of America has played in keeping the democratic nations of the world free. I've been shouting this from the roof tops for years.

To use your ''phraseology'' America is and has been a ''FUCKING'' easy touch for far too long.

Due to your 'gung ho' machismo you failed to interpret the term ''easy touch' within the context it was used.

We're talking here about the import of goods from nations whose manufacturers employ child and virtual adult slave labour to make products with none of the costly industrial relations regulations, health and safety legislation, anti religion and racial discrimination laws etc to add to the cost of their goods.

American and indeed most western manufacturing companies cannot compete with their industrial rivals who have access to cheap labour and reduced operating overheads.

Everyone, including the dogs in the street know that many Asian nations, not exclusively, but including China do use the U.S. as a dumping ground for their cheaply produced goods, often at below cost price.

The upshot of this is that the indigenous manufacturers go belly up with the inevitable loss of American jobs.

You really do seem particularly ill informed about what is happening in your own country.

If you are representative of your countrymen it is no wonder that your national debt is some $ 20 trillion with 67 cents in every dollar being owed to the Chinese.

Please tell me you know this.

Barrack 'Inertia' Obama's increase in corporation taxes saw an exodus of American firms locating abroad.

You know of course that the U.S. Olympic athlete's clothing was ''MADE IN CHINA''

The days when America could be magnanimous and give the so called poorer nations of the world a ''hand up'' has come and gone.

The once mighty U.S, is now contemplating having to default on it's national debt.

It's time to wake up and smell what it is you guys are standing in.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
2 points

http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/

Deportations under Obama fell 43 percent. The Democrat biased mass media helped perpetuate misleading reports pretending Obama was increasing deportations while in reality he was doing everything he could to stop as many deportations as possible without being exposed as a total fraud on the issue. The Democrats want illegals here for their votes and for the demand of social services which the Dems need to control more money in their give-away programs while they line their pockets and sell out the country to our enemies, thinking they are the elite rulers who will be in bed with the elite rulers of enemy states and rule the world in the power vacuum left when America falls quietly turning communistic or when it falls with a bang caused by enemies.

The writing is on the wall for America, and the whole progression of modern events is foretold in the Bible and becoming more and more clear every day that the global stage is being set exactly as the Bible said it would be leading up to the final Battle of Armageddon.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
3 points

I don't care much for discussing politics here, but I sure gave a shout when I read trump won. Hillary and the rest of the Dems are so boldly corrupt it's scary...they hate America, they hate God, they hate Israel, and they hate Christians and of course they hate God's word. Trump is much the lesser of two evils, and a big relief.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!

I'm with you on the Clinton's; it turned my stomach the thought that a lying, conniving, scheming cretin like her could occupy the WH and be leader of the free world. It is a big relief.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!

''Apart from that Mrs. Clinton, did you enjoy the Presidential contest''?

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
2 points

Clinton's made deals with Russia giving them plutonium mines with the payoffs going to clinton foundation, lots of stuff like that. they hate america, and obama is one of them plotting the downfall of America to usher in a new world order and profiting from helping sell out the country every way they can, becoming multi millionaires by gaining political power and using it to sell out America to communists and muslims, and planning to ride the wild horse of the elite in the new world order...insanely criminal minds obsessed with gaining power.

I believe God put Trump in there to prolong America's freedom because the USA, corrupt as we are, is still the bastion of the gospel funding missionaries and spreading the good news around the world. The writing is still on the wall for America's pending judgement for her evils.......55 million babies murdered, enough to populate 25 states today...but I could be wrong, Jesus could come back today and take me and my brothers and sisters home forever and leave you here to fight for Trump while the world falls into the Great Tribulation and the coming final war of Armageddon..........

You might be on the right side in the politics, but promoting sin in your life is heaping up God's judgment, and it's going to fall on America and you for your boasting of sin sooner or later........

You could agree with God's judgement against your sin now and start walking on the highway of holiness now, or you can wait until all your pleasures are ripped away from you before you seek God's mercy and who knows if it will be too late then? I sure can't tell by the way you act.

I don't think you got saved or you could not boast of sin at the same time you claim being saved gives you a license to sin.

I don't want to fight with you.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
ironskillet(220) Disputed
1 point

Sadly Trump is not much of a Christian himself as a boastful lover of money.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

what do you care is he is a Christian or not? As far as you are concerned, trump is the white monkey cousin of obama the chimp.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
3 points

Just listening to day time news over here (republic of Ireland ) the amount of Irish Americans that voted for Trump is amazing , the alternative the horrible cow Hillary would have driven America into the gutter .

It's incredible how the media over here totally supported Hillary and barely gave Trump a look in , and indeed in America I'm told they were very one sided and it seems they were so worldwide ; so it's all the more remarkable that Trump won ...

The best man won :)

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Hey!!!!!! Dermit the Hermit emerges again from his primordial soup.!!!!! Good to see you're not burning in Hell !!

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
Dermot(5736) Clarified
1 point

Hey !!! Saintnow speaks from his drug induced state as there can be no other possible explanations for believing in a place call Hell ...

I blame the parents :)

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
2 points

The SCOTUS is saved from its march toward liberalist socialism. The constitution will be followed for the next 30 or 40 years.

Obamacare is out, with it's crushing cost in jobs for the economy.

Business will thrive without undue regulation.

School choice will change the cycle of poverty and dependence in our rotting urban cities.

Infrastructure projects will re-ignite the American economy.

Not a bad future

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Churches will not be taxed and Planned Parenthood will be defunded

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
1 point

Time for the greatest comedy show on Earth to begin.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
HighFalutin(3280) Clarified
3 points

It will be interesting for sure, the MSM and the left will mock and ridicule him and the right like they always do, but I think he will settle down and take care of business.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

I think Trump has it sealed up for eight years, and Pence after that for four or eight more.........if the country doesn't fall apart or get wiped out by some huge natural disaster or surprise attack from an enemy. He will get things done and straightened out, and have a real record to stand on after four years plus that mighty mouth that can't be tamed by media elites.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
outlaw60(15367) Clarified
2 points

Are you admitting that Hillary got beat there Progressive. Karma is a bitch ain't it.

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa
Cuaroc(8827) Clarified
1 point

Why did the Progressive switch over to his Outlaw60 account?

Side: I'm a Clintonite: Whaaaaaaaaaa

I didn't like either candidate. But he's definitely a better alternative than Clinton for sure.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
1 point

Thanks for voting against WW3. Hillary is NOT in the White House, which for me is the most important result. I hope by next time, you will have done something to avoid having to make such choices.

Hopefully now we will have a chance to do something about Putin. With HRC in office, there would be almost no chance, because each of her hawkish moves would be used as a propaganda tool by Putin and would only strengthen his regime. Now America's faults can no longer be used by Putin as leverage against his own people.

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
1 point

I think they are both evil and they suck so I just went with a random decision

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!
0 points

oops......repeat.....................................................................................

Side: I'm a Trumpian: Yippi Ki-yay!