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 Self interest vs Greed. What's the difference? IS there a difference? (21)

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Self interest vs Greed. What's the difference? IS there a difference?

Hello:

In my view, there's a BIG difference.  Simply said, self interest is where you look out for yourself and your family WITHOUT harming anybody..  Greed is where you look out for yourself AT SOMEONE'S EXPENSE.   

As a capitalist, I don't believe I TAKE from the world..  I believe I CONTRIBUTE to it.

Anyone wanna share?

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2 points

Bill Gates is about as capitalist as you can get, and he gives back to the world. Oprah, same. Her friend Ellen, same. Being a capitalist is great! Being a greedy capitalist is NOT! Being a capitalist that cheats on his taxes, like Trump and HIS friends are the worst kind of capitalists. Be a nice little capitalist and we'll all love you! ;-)

Amarel(4984) Clarified
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What do you think of Capitalists who follow all laws (including tax laws), provides a great environment for labor with a strong wage incentive, and keeps everything they earn to themselves? That is to say, they don’t give to charity.

GhostOfNom(166) Clarified
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What do you think of Capitalists who follow all laws

Their own laws, which they wrote specifically to protect their own interests. The reason you distort everything is because you are a fascist Israeli pig.

provides a great environment for labor

Your interpretation of a "great environment for labor" being that they make you labor while they pocket the profit from the work you do.

and keeps everything they earn to themselves?

I would call them normal capitalists (i.e. sociopathic, greedy reprobates whose only concern is their own self interest).

AlofRI(2842) Clarified
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If they "give to charity", they deduct from taxes. They're, in most cases, just making it LOOK like they're generous for their own benefit. "The Wealth of Nations" covers that subject very charitably. That's EXACTLY the point I was making! ;-)

Simply said, self interest is where you look out for yourself and your family WITHOUT harming anybody..

I tried to build a wall to do just this. I was called a Nazi. Of course libs who call people Nazis, who aren't Nazis, have a word we call them too...

1 point

I was called a Nazi.

I just love how you pretend that has anything to do with a damned wall.

1 point

I meant to say I was called someone who preached Marxism to his closest advisors...

Being called a Marxist with a square stache is the worst.

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Simply said, self interest is where you look out for yourself and your family WITHOUT harming anybody.. Greed is where you look out for yourself AT SOMEONE'S EXPENSE.

By this criteria, what is the moral status of people who demand laws that will give them more things that other people pay for?

excon(13387) Clarified
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By this criteria, what is the moral status of people who demand laws that will give them more things that other people pay for?

Hello A:

You mean like taxpayers who want their piece of the pie?? I think they're FINE..

excon

Fiora(46) Clarified
2 points

Nahhh.. My DNA says I AM a Jew.

Your DNA tells you you're from poland. It's SOCIETY that told you you're a Jew because you are a special type of white person who's ancestors decided to follow the religion of the Hebrew Israelites, who no longer exist as an ethnic group.

I've shown you that actual result done by actual scientists..

Science didn't name your ethnic group Jews, The actual Jews you are descended from who practiced Judaism named it Jews.

By the way.. We agree, of course, that DNA cannot test for religion.

Then shut up.

It tests for ETHNICITY/RACE..

Then why do you call yourself a Jew just because your ancestors unscientifically named their ethnic group after the RELIGION they converted to. RACIALLY you are mostly POLISH and the actual HEBREWS would have considered the vast majority of your ancestry to be INFIDELS and SAVAGES.

Why are you afraid to admit that Jews are a race??

You are not a fucking Hebrew, you are a European atheist associating yourself with the religious cult of an extinct group of semitic tribes.

I guess science just isn't your thing..

Science says excon is mostly polish

Excon says excon is a Hebrew because his ancestors converted to a religion.

Science and excon just don't mix.

GhostOfNom(166) Disputed
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By this criteria, what is the moral status of people who demand laws that will give them more things that other people pay for?

Ah, this old 1950s fallacy. Original.

Under capitalism, you work for an employer who buys lots of nice things with the profit from your hard labour.

Under Communism, you work for yourself and you buy lots of nice things with the profit from your hard labour.

Hence, bite me Adolf.

Amarel(4984) Disputed
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I bet you would believe the gunman who says “I’m not going to hurt you” as he cocks the hammer.

The reason people get away with saying Communism has never been tried is because it’s supposed aims are never achieved. This is attributed to non-communist methods. The truth is that the goals are Utopian pipe dreams that are promised by the evil and believed by the naive and ignorant.

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It really depends on how you define those terms how they practically play out in the world. I can be greedy and not like sharing my wealth or giving things out for free. Yet I can still benefit society by having a price on my activities. If its beneficial, people will pay for it. If it's not I wouldn't have any customers.

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I see what you're doing now, You're trying to say that since there is a difference between self interest and greed capitalism is just this benign thing that never exploits people, rewards the greedy for sociopathic behaviour, or impedes human development because it is UNSCIENTIFIC and based only on what is PROFITABLE rather than what is SUSTAINABLE or LOGICAL or ETHICAL or PRODUCTIVE.