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 Separation of Church and State ?? (29)

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Separation of Church and State ??

so WHY is the US Government attempting to FORCE Nuns to pay for contraception and or abortions ?
http://www.c-span.org/video/?407139-1/reaction-zubik-vs-burwell-oral-arguments ....
you wanna kill babies ? then get your own box
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The superstitious mumbo jumbo of the various man made ancient religions have no place in modern society and certainly not in government.

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Practicing your religion has nothing to do with healthcare. Only paying for things you support is not protected under the constitution.

dadman(1703) Disputed
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Indeed the State has invaded the Church .... I'm sure more to come ...

as for the Nuns .. murdering babies has nothing to do w/ Healthcare ...

Obviously you (Cartman) Practicing your religion (atheism) has everything to do with murdering babies (your version of "healthcare") like I said ..... get your own box

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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Indeed the State has invaded the Church

That's not what I said at all. The State is completely separate from the church and your example is stuff that is supposed to be separate.

as for the Nuns .. murdering babies has nothing to do w/ Healthcare ...

When I get to chose what my money goes toward they have a case.

like I said ..... get your own box

You didn't say that. Like I said ... fuck yourself.

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Stop lying about what your religion says. Jesus wouldn't act like you at all.

dadman(1703) Disputed
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"Jesus wouldn't act like you" .... you have no clue of Jesus ...

however you'll find out at his soon to come return if you should survive the Tribulation period ...

if not ? the Great White Throne Judgement ....

the Bible tells me so

Hellno(17753) Disputed
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It's been 2000 years. BRB. Now you say he's coming back soon? When? And how do you know that?

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If it isn't in the Bible, it isn't part of Christianity. Jesus helped sinners.

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If separation of church and state results in contraception being privately funded then so be it. But then sexual aids like Viagra also should be privately funded as well instead because it's unfair to reimburse the means to make women pregnant but then not reimburse the prevention of pregnancy.

Theyre only forced to provide it if they are employers. Because despite what YOU believe you are not allowed to force your employees to live by that code. Their healthcare is not in your domain of control. Theres also a provision in place that allows them to sign and not have to pay for it and the government picks up the check for their contraceptive care.

If you bothered to actually research it, they aren't doing that at all. They are forcing to these people to let OTHERS cover abortion and contraception.

It doesn't matter who you are - you're required to pay taxes. You don't have a right to choose not to fund programs you don't like.

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Pay for contraception and abortion or be fined millions of dollars $$$$$.$$ http://www.c-span.org/video/?407139-1/reaction-zubik-vs-burwell-oral-arguments

so WHY is the US Government attempting to FORCE Christians to not marry the women they rape?

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The Democrat party has been taken over by extremist as proven by Obama's election twice.

These bigoted extremists spit on American religious freedoms and will do their best to take those freedoms from you.

What kind of sick political party can not respect other's passionate beliefs when it comes to controversial issues such as abortion and birth control. These things should not be forced on everyone. People should have the respect and decency to BUY THEIR OWN BIRTH CONTROL OR PAY FOR THEIR OWN ABORTION PILLS, ETC.

Anyone who could afford Obamacare can afford some condoms! If the Left is so concerned about these things, create your own charitibal organizations to pay for abortions and birth control instead of FORCING EVERYONE to think as you do. The utter arrognce is mind blowing.

This is the Left's MO. Just as with controversial subjects like Homosexuality and Transgender people, they would force our children in public schools to be indoctrinated with these subjects by having Gay awareness days, etc.

Few other groups get special mention in our schools, but in order to condition people to the Left's PC way of thinking, they must make laws pushing their agendas.

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Like usual, nope.

AlofRI(3294) Disputed
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The Republican Party has been taken over by extremists as proven by Obama's election, twice. The majority of Americans vote against extremists, let's hope they continue to do so. Then, until the Republicans become logical, and LISTEN to the REAL majority, we'll never have another conservative President. I voted Republican a few times, with today's extremist view, along with the Evangelical influence, I could not. To them, the separation of church and state means the church should RUN the state, and the state should follow THEIR rules.

NOT what the founding fathers had in mind! THAT is religious persecution .... what the founders sought to prevent!

"The purpose of the separation of church and state is to keep, forever from these shores, the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries." James Madison .... Could anything be plainer!!

NOTHING TO DO WITH ABORTION! (OR Democrats)!

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Pure lies as always..... you are such a waste of time. It saddens me that when i post to other's debates I must see some of your radical leftwing rhetoric. if it's my debate i just ban you from all your lies right in the beginning.