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Sex and Sexuality

BlizzardBird voiced an interest in debating homosexuality recently, and it's a topic that has been alluded to by a few folk here with vastly different opinions. I figure it'd be suitable to present one location to discuss this.

This is a huge topic to discuss, so here are a few starting points/opinions. There are far more than two so I figure a perspective debate fits best. If posting an opinion please preface it with which of these you agree with (if any).

1. I believe lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and the extended queer community are unnatural and unacceptable lifestyles.
2. I believe lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and the extended queer community are natural and acceptable lifestyles.
3. I feel discomfort around members of the LGBTQ community, but feel no ill-will towards them
4. I am utterly and completely indifferent to the topic of sex and sexuality
5. I have a different abstract opinion that AdmiralBacon wasn't clever enough to think of here

Quick word of caution, I'm expecting trolling here, and will ban if you do not present coherent comments. The validity of these comments is immaterial, but if they simply do not make sense, it'll be ban-hammer time.
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So here's my stance on the matter:

2. I believe lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and the extended queer community are natural and acceptable lifestyles.

My reasoning is pretty broad - I just truly do not understand why it should matter. Why would two peoples gender matter when discussing sex? I don't believe the religious or spiritual faith of one person should affect others, and it occurs in the natural kingdom too, so I don't get why it could be a problem. Then again, even if it didn't occur in naturet I still wouldn't care (I mean, we're the only species that cooks meat before we eat it, why not also be the only species who bones indiscriminate of gender?)

As for transgender people, I've known enough that I find the concept of being prejudicial against them personally offensive.

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In the interest of full disclosure, I am a bisexual male. I am an atheist, and I am cis

blizzardbird(904) Disputed Banned
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I would like to ask you one question.

What does semen consist of, or orgasm for that matter?

This does have relevance to the topic, although at first it may seem off-topic.

admiralbacon(229) Clarified
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Semen is made up of a small percentage of sperm cells. The rest is made up of various proteins and minerals, including a decent amount of fructose.

Orgasm is a verb or abstract noun. They aren't "made up" of anything. I suppose you could be asking what occurs during an orgasm, in which case it really depends on what genitals you have, and what kind of orgasm it is.

Any type of sex between willing adults is really nobody's business. We have much more important things to put our time into.

admiralbacon(229) Clarified
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I feel like there's a joke I can make here about putting our "time" into things other than other peoples sex, but I'm not sure exactly what it would be, because I am an Innocent Young Man who would never think of such dirty gutter comedy.

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Exactly, why should we care what people's sexual orientations are.

I have to pick number 5. If I were a girl, I would be a lesbian, too, but since I'm a guy, I would like to be in between the two lesbians so I can double my pleasure and double my fun.

admiralbacon(229) Clarified
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I can't tell if you're shitposting to be funny or not, purely because I don't know you well enough

HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
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I'm just choosing option 5 and stating my preference, that's all.

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I do not understand why lesbian, gay, and bisexual people have to come out. I am straight and many others are like me. I don't see them coming out. Watch the video, it is inspirational.

Love is All You Need (short film)
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I feel that one's sexual preference(s) is a personal matter and all ''deviant'' orientations should be tolerated by heterosexuals. Whilst there should be absolutely no discrimination against those engaging in irregular sexual activities, they are nevertheless, abnormal. A quick glance at the anatomy of the male and female form of almost all species and one will immediately observe that nature has designed them in a manner conducive to reproduction, thus, in our case, ensuring the survival of the human race. The divergent sexual practices of homosexuals and lesbians cannot produce off spring as nature/god intended so, by definition, those belonging to the aforementioned sexual classifications are abnormal deviants.

TrumpsHair(310) Clarified
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Statistically you are right, but why should it matter if something is statistically abnormal, or if it deviates from a given norm?

Winklepicker(1021) Clarified Banned
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It doesn't matter at all, but it is a fact which should firstly be recognized and then unequivocally accepted by everyone. Unnecessary resentment can be generated against this condition by the growing number of sexual deviants who try, all too often aggressively, to present themselves as normal. They are what they are by an accident of nature and should make no apology to anyone, but they are not normal.

You know, the whole homosexual sex doesn't make babies thing is the most juvenile stance and people still ride that silly argument. At this point in human history, the population is absolutely off the rails. Sex is so detached from procreation. Find a better argument

Winklepicker(1021) Disputed Banned
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You, dear oaf, don't have an argument, so it's important that you realize that your head is full of mad dog's shit and go ''gaily'' about your merry way. As a result of recent scientific breakthroughs mankind doesn't require sexual intercourse between male and female to propagate, but this development sure to hell takes the pleasure out of having a family. What about the millions of other species? Do we launch a worldwide programme of artificial insemination to ensure the survival of every species on earth? You really are a ridiculous fool. However, regardless of that, clutching at straws to promote your unnatural''condition'' with your meaningless rhetoric is embarrassingly stupid and utterly futile as even a shithead like you must understand that nature designed the male, female anatomy for sexual interaction. A shortsighted dimwit on a galloping horse could see this fact from a mile off, but not you!

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Careful Winkle, I don't want to banhammer you. You're not rabid like some of the other folk on this site, but telling someone their head is full of dogs shit is deliberately obscene and not how debating works. That being said, the real thing that'd get a banning here is your comment on starting a "worldwide programme of artificial insemination". I just do not follow how you got there whatsoever. Feel free to explain if if I've misundrestood somehow.

Now, to retort to your argument, you're absolutely right in saying that male and female anatomies have evolved to procreate. That being said, as SlaveDevice (what a screen name btw) pointed out, sex and procreation are very different topics in modern society. That is in part due to the point you raised, that artificial insemination is a thing that exists.

TrumpsHair(310) Disputed
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Do you not see the hypocrisy in throwing so many insults just a day after you and I had that conversation about insults?

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You stay out'a MY bedroom and I'll stay out'a yours! I'm "straight", and as long as others don't force their type of sex onto ME or anyone else, I really don't give a damn how they "do it". Sex isn't a religious matter except as a cult believes it is. Do what you want within your cult and leave others do the same!

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what no "I think it's all in their heads?"

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I don't know if I totally believe it, but I at least entertain the possibility.

admiralbacon(229) Clarified
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What in the shit shilling balls billing taint-bulge are you saying, and why did i t necessitate replying to an ancient thread and reminding me of this shitty website.

*edit: soz I was cranky when I posted this, you seem like an alright peraon, I'd just forgotten how thick-headed and braindead a lot of the community here was until I saw the notification e-mail for your comment

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So my stance is number 1. What lgbt have done and are still doing are unnatural. Lgbt have not brought any equality nor freedom to everybody else but themselves. They have constantly pushed for inclusion on tv and in schools. They want to indoctrinate and are indoctrinating kids into this stuff. It is absolutely unacceptable. Homosexuality is not helpful nor healthy. I understand people may think it's harmless but it's not. I'll tell you why. Scientific research has already determined that AIDs/HIV are the result of uncontrolled sex and guess what? The butt is not for sex. Kids are not produced from homosexual activity nor bisexual activity. There have been recent events where homosexuals and lesbians have actually committed murder. Two lesbians from Brazil castrated and murder a young boy upon him not understanding that he's a boy but he wanted to be a girl. So the lesbos murdered him in cold blood. Next, another two lesbians killed a man for his inheritance. After some deep researching, I found out that historically, there have been serial killers who were homosexual or bisexual. There have been 4 gay serial killers who recently got away with murder. I have the sources down here:

https://inmagazine.ca/2021/04/queer-crime-how-homophobia-helped-4-gay-serial-killers-continue-to-kill/

This is a new one I've found about lesbians being harmful:

https://www.latintimes.com/abusive-lesbian-couple-tortured-murdered-3-year-old-boy-claimed-car-crash-cause-510432

Lesbians in Brazil brutally murder a boy:

https://www.outono.net/elentir/2019/06/10/two-lesbians-castrate-and-dismember-a-child-in-brazil-media-silence-in-europe/

Lesbians murder a man for his inheritance:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/lesbian-lovers-killed-dismembered-man-to-steal-inheritance/

They have been crying that they have been oppressed, yet there is evidence right here presented that they can kill too. Their primary target is to get the youth to join them and it's immoral of them to do so. Lgbt are hypocritical snowflakes and very self destructive in compromising their own stance by going against facts, using opinions and screaming to get what they want. Lgbt should be illegalized and put in correctional facilities away from society. They do not belong in society until they have either been re educated, rehabilitated or as a last resort, punished for their violent acts against innocent victims. Abuse within lgbt and racism within lgbt is also a thing. They claim that normies are "white supremacists", yet they are racist towards people of color and did align themselves with BLM who are not for black people. BLM kills black people and I cannot say I will support BLM because I have friends who are black and white from Church.

They claim that they are born gay but they are not as science goes against that. They go against biological facts of there being only 2 genders and that the 2 genders are connected to the 2 biological sexes. Biological sex determines your genitalia aka your reproductive organ. For men, it's obviously the penis and the testicles. For women, it's the breasts and vagina. Under no circumstance can you ever change your gender because it disrupts your biological structure and it makes the individual uglier. Men are men. Women are women. Boys are boys. Girls are girls. There is no in-between and to support such insanity that there are more than 2 genders, it's pure mental illness. Gender dysphoria should never be treated by giving "gender reassignment". Those people who suffer from such issues need to be put in mental institutions where they can heal up and get re educated about what it means to be a man or a woman. Ellen Page is a woman still. not a man. Bruce Jenner is still a man, not a woman. That is just pure fact. There is no "Transphobia" because I am not irrationally scared to speak the truth. Rather, there is tons of heterophobia, Christophobia and truthphobia from lgbt itself. Their hypocrisy is the pinnacle plus their hubris, pride, lust and vanity. The fact of marriage and true love still remains between a man and a woman. Without the male sperm, the female's egg cannot be fertilized. What determines an individual's gender? Biological chromosomes. Humans are certainly not asexual. Why? Because asexuality is defined as "creatures who can reproduce without a partner". Now, what caused frogs to become gay? Well that was an environmental occurrence but some people thought that just because that happened to frogs, that it's happening to humans too. Except, humans are choosing to be gay not being born with it. Some are being influenced into it. Near the end, heterosexuality is still the way to make babies. Sperm donations just don't make sense to me and I do not believe lgbt should adopt because all they will do is influence the adopted children to turn away from the norm of being straight and instead allow themselves to either be "transgendered" aka mutilated physically or to turn gay or bisexual etc. It's essentially sexualizing kids and yes it's happening and no it's wrong to allow that to occur. Do you want AIDs/HIV to affect you? Seems some people just don't care but we do care about youth here and yes, youth aka children are precious to us, especially to the heterosexual married couples consisting of one man aka dad and one woman aka mom who just want to live a normal life.

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