Erm... isn't that exactly what I said ? Or was that satire of my comment? What's your point?

shamanism deals with connecting to the universe, bud, not just our mind, or our spirit, these are important aspects we must purge before we can connect with the universe, but once you lose self of "me" and realize all is one thing, you will have full conciousness, this is why bob marley always said I and I

youtube videos with disabled commentary always makes my inner skeptic raise an eyebrow.

In and of itself, quantum mechanics does not deal with consciousness. It only does if you make the link yourself.

But consciousness =/= everything.

Merely the perception of it.

Even if your first theory was true: everything is frequency. You have no reason to believe YOURSELF when you then say a human or cat can interface with that, because there is no known method or mechanism for this to happen and be proven under scientific conditions.

You are not a quantum physicist. So dont pretend like you understand it and its connections.

You have some kind of mental disorder, and if you keep this up, im going to work out what it is.

You are a complete insult to our most respected leaders,

My my, got your panties in a bunch, did I? Which leaders am I insulting by the way?

and yes, cats do purr to heal broken bones, not only for when they are happy,

Care to show some peer-reviewed material?

they also use sound to sterilize medical equipment,.

I'm well aware of that, it's called sonication and has nothing to do with affecting microbes actual constituent elemental frequencies, it is usually done in a liquid medium waves in the media caused by the high frequency sound cause the media to make the cells contract and compress rapidly, this forces the cell membrane to lyse.

its called frequencies..

I've already pointed out that it's called sonication, and utilises frequencies and does not interfere with the cell's elements.

Everything=energy, therefore, conciousness=energy

Space does not equal energy neither does time.

Maybe if you didnt have a golf ball sized conciousness, you would understand that when the shaman goes into a deep trance, he becomes pure conciousness, conciousness can do anything, it can even view atoms at the subatomic level...

I'm the one with a small consciousness, because I only accept evidence and don't buy into psuedoscience, your insults are quite telling of your state of confidence in your assumptions and conjecture.

"Actual learned men" you dont think shamans dont train from childhood all the way until they pass on? That takes alot of work, so dont be so insultful to things you know nothing about

I'm sure they do, as do witch doctors, priests, rabbis, imams and whatever you wish to insert from the world of the imaginary.

From your article:

Shamanic healing was the main form of healing used by the American Indians, who called upon helping spirits to cure the patient. Though there are few native shamans left in North America, 200 years ago upwards of 30% of the population had some form of spirit-enabled medicine power.

They weren't very successful then, seen as most of the native American populations were wiped out by disease, probably akin to the black plague, why didn't these Shamans' use their inbuilt sonication to eradicate the microbes?

In the late 1920s, scientists-led by Neils Bohr--were convinced, based on observations of their data and mathematics, that our reality was dependent on an "observer effect," an interplay between how our reality manifests and how we observe it.

Wrong, the Copenhagen interpretation only states that quantum mechanics show a probability of observing quanta and not an objective view of how matter is really behaving, the Feynman sum over histories states that a particle takes every available path, however to observe a particle you must introduce some form of energy into the system, a photon maybe, this collapses the wave function and forces an outcome, it is a limitation of our measuring equipment, which are all based on classical physics.

Now we are faced with the notion that there is an interplay between our local space-time reality and human consciousness.

This simply just does not follow, it is not the consciousness, it is the capacity of the measurement.

Nevertheless, this means that shamanism finally has an explanation based in modern physics. Shamans can effect change in local reality through spirit helpers working at the quantum level. This is achieved through their ritual action, in which the shaman's consciousness, in an altered state of being, is intently focused on a singular objective. For example, "Take this cancer out of this sick person."

More wild conjecture, more arguments that simply, do not follow, and unverified claims.

Do you honestly believe that if a Shaman could cure disease, they wouldn't be the most successful physicians in the world?

native ceremonial behavior is exactly what is needed to change reality via the observer effect.

What the actual? Change reality? Nobody is saying "the observer effect changes reality" except this credulous clown.

For example, shamanic rituals are extremely repetitive over long periods of time. This is because they are trying to effect the probability waves that bring reality into time and space in the first place.

The particles that make up you and me and everything around us are not existing outside of time and space.

Once you understand these new findings of physics, what shamans do in ceremony appears rational.

Not to a physicist.

The more "observers," the better the chance for success, so friends and relatives of the patient are often invited to participate.

This is just getting silly now.

For this same reason, a shaman will also ask doubters to leave before a healing ceremony begins. In fact, one often reads ethnographic records in which shamans would not conduct a ceremony if whites were present.

Kind of racist really, especially seeing as we are all observers and can by squinting and concentrating really hard make all disease go away.

I'm tired of copypasting over pieces, you can refute what I've said and we'll go from there.

And just because the website has the word belief in it does not discredit the article that clearly outlines whats happening today in our discoveries,

Nope, it doesn't.

so a primitive person was doing quantum mechanics and the only way they could describe it back then was "spirits" well now that we are in the modern age its time to undertsand what these "spirits" are.

That's not what your article states mate, maybe you should read it before you post it.

Furthermore, quantum mechanics is a set of physics principles, humans are part of the universe and are governed by the principles of the physical laws, to state that a person can change them at will denies that these are laws, so which one is it, magic or reality?

Shamanism utilizes inner technology, not external technology

And what a success rate they have, there's a reason that they don't want white people around, it's because they'll probably not take the drugs and laugh at the ridiculousness of the whole enterprise.

You actually believe what you just said...

Not everything that has ever been made up is real! Try differentiate nonsense and truth! They are not one and the same!