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 "Shithole countries"-Trump am glad Africa heard it for themselves (80)

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"Shithole countries"-Trump am glad Africa heard it for themselves

I always told them, they never believed me, i wish to invite many to come here to see all the racists on display, Antrim, Dermot and Co. I should bookmark/archive all the links to the racist topics and give them something good to read.
The only person i got respect for here is Minttea though we fight  a lot on moral and religious basis.
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7 points

Only last year you proclaimed Donald Trump was your hero now you do not like him because he correctly called some African countries shit- holes , how quickly your adoration has changed

To call a country like Zimbabwe , Chad or the Congo a shot - hole is correct , how would you label them ?

To call a country a shit - hole is not racist you idiot a country is not a race , also regarding your claim that I posted up “ racist debates “ prove it bet you cannot , why’s that ?

You are one of the sites biggest racists and a hypocrite as well , you claimed white people were pigs and white women worthy of rape , you also claimed Irish people were filth and blacks used them as prostitutes

Now go away you racist fuck

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Yeah, but going out and calling countries who are poor, developing nations that just want to make things better hole countries is offensive.

Dermot(5736) Disputed
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But to say one is offended does not constitute an argument it’s used to shut down debate , I’m afraid it doesn’t work with me .

To call certain countries shit - holes is actually an honest and fair assessment of some of these dreadful countries , tell me how would you describe the Congo , Chad , Somalia , North Korea or Saudi Arabia ?

Also why do some countries my own included take in people from various countries as a humane gesture if they’re not shit - holes ?

WinstonC(1225) Disputed
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The truth is often offensive.

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If you think that's offensive go find out what Muslims call gay people and white women.

Atrag(5666) Clarified
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I think its more the point that most Americans wouldn't be able to tell you were Zimbabwe, Chad or the Congo are on the map but yet have such pride as to even express an opinion on them - thats one issue. Another is merely that a head of state would damage international relations just because he feels he needs to express that opinion.

Dermot(5736) Clarified
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You say ....... Another is merely that a head of state would damage international relations just because he feels he needs to express that opinion............

How does one damage international relations by honestly expressing themselves ?

Fellow politicians and high ranking governmental officials know these countries are shit - holes but prefer to go along with the pretence that the opposite is true so no one gets upset or outraged

My country like many others is involved in exporting vast amounts of various products to Saudi Arabia yet will never condemn them for their despicable human rights abuses , this is obviously despicable behavior but there again we wouldn’t want to damage international relations would we ?

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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"Only last year you proclaimed Donald Trump was your hero "

As a business mogul, and TV star.

I like old men generally, i thought any old man will be wise for presidency hes not..he may be a stable genius but not a match for wisdom.

The rest are lies and nonsense

Dermot(5736) Disputed
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The only liar is you and your posts demonstrate clearly you are incapable of posting anything but nonsense , now back to your shit -hole of a country with you

Atrag(5666) Clarified
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I like old men generally

Utoh! Watch out granddads he comes Jeffrey with his giant African cock! Don't bend over too far!

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3 points

Great countries such as the United States of America deserve to be described as such.

In the same context 'SHITHOLE COUNTRIES such as Mexico and most African nations should be accurately portrayed for what they are.

I didn't make the United States a great country nor did I make so many of the African states shitholes.

So why criticize the truthful authors for their candid accuracy?

Do fools such as you think that if we describe SHITHOLES such as Liberia as a prosperous and progressive country with one of the highest standards of living in the world that it would miraculously come to fit the description?

Wise up shithead and smell what it is you're trying to shovel.

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We can't be described as a great nation. We elected a sociopath for president, care more about out military than education, and can't even agree with ourselves, let alone other countries.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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Quite Accurate

Then there shouldn't be anyone from a shithole country more successful(business wealth made) than you are. Are there any? Can you confidently say there are none? If No, why? What is the your essence in life if shithole people are above you.

Trump is an idiot because his dad gave him a million to start business as a young boy back in the 1900's and so far he only made 3billion. If not for the million i believe his life will be a shit-truck today. There are many who started with zero and above him today even from shithole countries. Had trump been a country, he would have been worse than anyshithole in africa because he is an idiot who couldn't multiply resources well.

cruzaders(325) Clarified
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I dont think you really understand the point, he is calling those countries a shit hole because politically, economically thats what they are, we are talking about a national level not a personnal level.

If my calculator is correct he made a gain of about 300 000%, if that isnt multiplying resources then what is?

"There are many who started with zero and above him today even from shithole countries" well to be honest I dont know a single one, the only rich people from african countries I have heard about are the dictators who take 80% of the national taxes and tcheat during elections to get elected for life

Antrim(1287) Clarified
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You're a confused and spiteful individual whose all consuming resentment at the success of others has made you a victim of your own bitterness.

Donald Trump ''ONLY*'' made $3 billion and became President of the United States of America and you call him an idiot.

Man, man oh man, try to realize just how stupid that makes you sound.

If anything, we're a hole country. At times of piece, we're increasing our defense budget because we're paranoid. We let our president run rampant and insult countries undeserving of our hate.We, for some reason,use an absurd amount of energy. We have the third most people but use the most energy. And we ruined a country by sending back 200,000 people who will all need jobs (jobs that their country won't have).

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Race has nothing to do with what Trump said, nor does it have anything to do with whether any particular country is a shithole.

Here are some general guidelines to whether your country is a shithole.

- If your country is so bad that, in order to get people to stay, the government has to shoot people who try to leave, then it is a shithole. (DPRK)

- If your country is so bad that people will fill boat after boat to overflowing, and risk drowning in order to leave, then it is a shithole. (Libya, Syria, Yemin, etc.)

- If genocide is happening in your country, then it is a shithole. (Myanmar)

- If your country is so bad that it can be described using the words "One of the poorest countries in... ," then it is a shithole. (Haiti, Democratic Republic of Congo, Somalia, Birundi etc.)

- If your country is so bad that a third of your citizens live in some other country, then it is a shithole. (El Salvador)

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It was reported that Donald Trump said these things, but I see no real primary source.

If Donald Trump did call Haiti a shithole country, it's probably because Haiti really is a shit hole country.

The Haitians probably got a lot to say about the Clintons.

People keep twisting the argument by first twisting the truth.

Africa was the word trump used , he didn't mention specific countries in Africa. Africa is highly recognised for a particular race;Blacks, sooooo he is a racist.

foratag(257) Clarified
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When people hear Africa they think poverty, corruption, crime, and the constant overthrow of governments. Maybe you think of it in terms of race, but many people do not. BTW, the northern part of Africa has over 200 million people who are not black. That is a lot of people.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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Ok let's play a finger magnet game. The magnetic attractions are already built in your mind. Get a map and hold your finger up.

Think of caucasian. Where does your finger first point to?

Now think of Latinos. Where does your finger first point to?

And now think of Blacks. Where does your finger first point to?

If your mind is objective you shouldn't find it hard arriving at my point.

seems you have a problem making outhighly recognised

Though i disagree with you i applaud you for showing openess to actually debate on debate website for the first time.

Bravo!!!

marcusmoon(576) Disputed
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Jeffrey,

Africa is highly recognised for a particular race;Blacks, sooooo he is a racist.

Africa is not only known for Black people. It is also highly recognized for poverty, cleptocratic dictatorships, and political instability and violence.

Why would you pick the only one of the four that has nothing to do with making so many countries in Africa into shitholes?

Seriously, why do you think poverty has nothing to do with making a place awful?

Consider:

Of the 30 poorest nations (by per capita GDP in terms of buying power) 24 are African countries.

Only 5 African nations have per capita GDP above $15,000/year.

Only 11 African Countries are in the top 100 nations by per capita GDP.

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-richest-and-poorest-countries

Explain to me how the characterization of Africa as a shithole is an expression of racism, not the result of objectively measurable economic standards.

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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known for Black people

I like your honesty. Only uneducated minds will still deny.

It is also

Nice way to make your next/actual point.

Do you have any mental image of a shithole? you call a human settlement that? Who shits in that hole?You? Are you better/important/globally influential than every individual there?

Why do European/Asian/American companies seek customers there for their products to make money. If africa shoul block international trade/impiorts, do you know the damage it will do to foreign companies and countries as a whole. All raw materials can be grown in Africa.

Infact if africa stops exports the world will stop having tea and chocolate lol(a quip, but factual).…… Pray Africa never establishes all factories to refine all their natural resources. In other words pray africa remains a shithole

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It's not racist to call a continent or country a shithole. It's a crude way of expressing that there are serious issues in that country/continent, be it with human rights, sanitation, access to education etc.

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There are youtube compelations of Democrats, Republicans and news personalities using the same and similar language. Lyndsey Graham called them hell holes in one speech 5 times.

To be clear, people in the room say it wasn't said, and Durbin is a known fabricator even according to Democrats.

The0bserver(141) Disputed
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You know what's amazing Nom? You're actually smarter when you're trying to be stupid.

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