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 Shootings on the East Coast and West Coast ! Gun Control works ???????? (17)

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Shootings on the East Coast and West Coast ! Gun Control works ????????

One person died and 11 others were wounded in a shooting near a Brooklyn playground on Saturday night, police said.

New York police said Sunday that there were two shooters and two guns but no arrests have been made.

At least three people were killed, including a 6-year-old boy, and 12 others wounded in a shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in Northern California after a suspect wearing tactical gear and armed with an assault rifle opened fire, authorities and witnesses said Sunday night.


Leftist if gun control works so well then how in the hell did these 2 mass shootings happen on the same day ???????

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4 points

Absolutely dumbfounding American imbecility. Blame gun control for shootings. Good one, moron.

That's like blaming traffic laws for car crashes.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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LIMEY tell me how gun control works ??????? You have an answer for the failed Leftist gun control ???????????

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Could it be that Santino William Legan was a disgruntled Leftist driven mad by DNC Media?

mrcatsam(663) Clarified
1 point

Shooting themselves in the foot is what it sounds like. Good job, lads. Hope you all survive the anarchic gun control laws.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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SCATMAN are you saying LEFTIST GUN CONTROL does not work ??????????????

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California Governor made this statement - California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has also responded to the "horrific" attack, stating that his office is "monitoring the situation closely" and expressing his gratitude to law enforcement.

Yet he did not mention how his gun control is an abject failure !!!!!!!!

2 points

In New York State one pays $340 with the application for a handgun, $140 for a rifle, plus $90 for fingerprints in both cases.

The Mayor of New York should raise the cost of the application for firearms and that should cut down on shootings.

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Gun control only works effectively when the laws are the same in the entire country; border checks on every person; scans at airports; strict legislation about who can buy a gun and for what purpose; exceptions to the 2nd amendment for severely mentally ill people; yearly training and/or health screening; license renewal periods; limiting or banning automatic weapons etc etc.

In a country like America, where a mentally ill, obsessive, murderous person can access a gun with little more effort than an air-rifle that shoots pellets, these kinds of things are going to happen.

All a person has to do is cross a state line or buy a gun from a disreputable source.

In order to stamp out the problem, you have to look at the factors that cause it.

There are a variety of reasons why the EU has significantly lower levels of gun crime and violent crime than the USA:

1. Less or no access to guns

2. Strict rules about ownership, training and licensing of guns

3. Better primary and secondary education standards

4. Easier access to mental healthcare

5. More robust duty-of-care for teachers and social workers, and a bigger focus on these services/social obligations in general

6. Less individualistic culture

7. Less predatory economic model

8. Better social safety net

9. Less aggressive people

10. More compassionate outlook, in general

11. Less emphasis on miltarism and violence in general

12. Less glorification of war

There are probably a lot of others, but all these factors combine to various degrees to make European countries generally far safer than the US and far less likely to be victims of guns.

There are about 508 million people living in the EU, and there were 5,200 homicides last year.

By contrast, a combination of just California, Texas, Florida and Illinois had more murders than this last year. That is a murder rate of about 5,200 murders per 103 million people.

To put that in perspective, the US has nearly five times as many murders per person as the EU.

That's what you're dealing with.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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The vast majority of shootings in America are gang on gang violence! It matters not what weapon they choose to kill each other.

When you do not include the vast majority of shootings between gang members, with every day Americans, then there is little difference between any nation.

America is a melting pot of nationalities, and with that comes greater chances of crime.

I want to live in a free nation where I can have a gun in my home to protect my family from the rare chance of criminals breaking in.

The EU has more instances of Islamic terrorism then does America. You can keep your misplaced bleeding heart ideology while your nations are slowly being taken over by Muslims.

Americans are willing to put up with the very rare chance of shootings, to keep our freedoms to own guns and protect our nation from a Socialist Government power grab.

Bootstrap(226) Disputed
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The vast majority of shootings in America are gang on gang violence! It matters not what weapon they choose to kill each other.

Firstly, no they aren't. Secondly, obviously it matters if you willingly sell gang members the most lethal handheld weapons currently in existence.

You are literally a complete fucking imbecile.

Bootstrap(226) Disputed
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America is a melting pot of nationalities, and with that comes greater chances of crime.

Selling people guns like they are candy bars comes greater chances of crime you stupid fucking wingnut.

Jody(1791) Disputed
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The vast majority of shootings in America are gang on gang violence!

You live in a very violent society which glories violence and American save the world machismo bullshit , U S A is shamefully rated 121st least peaceful country in the world In South Africa is rated more peaceful .

We don’t need guns where I live yet yanks cannot walk the fucking dog without carrying a fucking gun , you’s are nuts and cannot envisage society without guns that’s how fucked in the head you’s are

I note also you don’t mention the 70,000 gun accidents a year either you cretin , there’s more brains in an unwatered pot plant than you and your kind, basically you’re a retard

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Does GUN CONFISCATION seem to be more your style LEFTIST ????????????