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Yes, makes sense. No, fill up the prisons.
Debate Score:63
Arguments:51
Total Votes:65
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 Yes, makes sense. (22)
 
 No, fill up the prisons. (21)

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Should All Porn (& Nudity) Be Legal To View?

I ask this question because porn is becoming (if not already) main stream, as well as sexting is now common. The age of consent varies across the states from 15 to 18 in the U.S., and throughout the world the ages are even lower/higher. What this means is video/pics of what is a legal act, is getting people charged with a crime. Now, I'm not advocating for abusing animals or children, I'm simply saying, sex that is legal should never be illegal to video, take pics of, or watch. Countries that have legalized all porn, have actually had a drop in underage abuse/rape (contrary to what many thought would happen). Also, we are charging too many teens with illegal porn for consensual sexting (these are the very same teens we were suppose to be "protecting"). These laws have been used to charge teens taking pics of themselves wearing pajamas, others have been charged for pics of "legal" sex, this isn't protecting teens. So we have two choices, legalize it or recognize we are putting around half of our teens in danger of being charged with a serious crime (because they take pics or videos of themselves). 

Ahh yes, the never ending question, "where is your proof"? Well, rather than respond to each and every request for proof, here is a link discussing how legalizing the viewing of all porn actually lowered abuse/rape (let's be honest, to some people all the proof in the world won't change their mind):

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm

Note: I noticed a lot of comments are off topic, please stay on topic and if you really want to talk about incest (or other off topic issues) start another debate of your own (it's easy to do, just click new debate)

Yes, makes sense.

Side Score: 31
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No, fill up the prisons.

Side Score: 32

Yes, if you're old enough to bleed, you're old enough to breed.

That's what nature intended.

Man made artificial laws changed nature's laws which now means that ''doing the what comes naturally'' is a crime.

Sex isn't dirty, only weathered up old self righteous Presbyterians make it seem so.

We shall gather at the river, and all that hocus pocus jazz.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
instig8or(3308) Disputed
1 point

You come say that in a prison, I will like to see them rape you and put you in your place fucking pedo.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
1 point

why not put your mother, sister, aunts, and daughters all in one porn movie with some prisoners?

Side: Yes, makes sense.
2 points

Did you not know that in many countries in the world, including most African nations, as soon as females mature they are married and are giving birth in their early teens.

Whilst I'm not advocating this lifestyle I at least recognize that millions of people have the right to live their lives within the accepted norms of the society in which they live and we have no right to sit in our Ivory Towers and judge them or try to impose our moralistic standards.

Who do you sanctimonious filth think you are?

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Did you not know that God will bring you into judgement for everything you have ever said, done, imagined every place you have ever been in every moment of the time He gives you?

...Oh, this is the pervert's corner excusing or condoning porn. Let's just say you're perverted and I'm glad I didn't read your post past the first few words.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Did you know you are a pervert ?

Side: Yes, makes sense.
Progressive5(79) Clarified
1 point

That question is regarding viewing, rather than making any kind of porn video. This question is aimed at viewing, which is a separate issue... and you forgot to include grandma too in your response.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Yes, put your mother, sister/sisters, aunt/aunts, daughter/daughters all in a porn video for the world to watch...and you can watch with them, and then tell me how porn is ok......and put your grandma in there too, and I suggest using life term prisoners in the video as well, or whatever dirty dog men you can find who want to be perverts with your mother, sister, daughter, your dog too you pervert.

Porn is sick

Side: Yes, makes sense.
1 point

Those people, and only those people wishing to be involved in this vile industry should be allowed to do so.

If freaky weirdos wish to watch such depravity they too should be allowed to do so, but not until after the age of maturity.

I've no doubt that your mother, sisters and wider family are engaged in the making of pornography but mine certainly aren't.

I've also no doubt that your pornographic star mother and other family members will go where you decide to ''put'' them, but my family have minds of their own and would be appalled such a vocation.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If they should be allowed, your sister, daughter, mother, grandmother, aunts, all should be allowed to be sickos. Kiss them good bye.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If they should be allowed, your sister, daughter, mother, grandmother, aunts, all should be allowed to be sickos. Kiss them good bye.

I don't even want to read your post after the first few words, I know it's from the twisted mind of a pervert.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
2 points

I'm simply saying, sex that is legal should never be illegal to video, take pics of, or watch.

As the age of consent does vary from state to state (16-18, not 15), since the ability to watch a video is not limited by each state (open internet), the age would have to be restricted to 18+ as a video of a 16 year old would be illegal to view in states in which the age is 17 or 18.

Countries that have legalized all porn, have actually had a drop in underage abuse/rape

Source?

(these are the very same teens we were suppose to be "protecting")

Define "protecting". Are you suggesting any law that might cause a teen to get in trouble should be changed?

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Progressive5(79) Disputed
1 point

Actually 15 is correct in some states, considering that marriage with parental consent is allowed (than once someone is married, consenting to sex is also part of marriage). Actually the age may be even lower if parental consent marriage still goes lower in some states. The age doesn't "have to be" 18+ because ages vary by state. Laws don't "have to be" anything, they can be changed, and many states are already moving to decriminalize sexting.

Source for crime statistics? I'm not Google, go ahead do your own research. Here is one to get you started the Japanese National Police Agency reports the most dramatic decrease in sex crimes was seen when attention was focused on the number and age of rapists and victims among younger groups . We hypothesized that the increase in pornography, without age restriction and in comics, if it had any detrimental effect, would most negatively influence younger individuals. Just the opposite occurred. The number of juvenile offenders dramatically dropped every period reviewed from 1,803 perpetrators to a low of 264; a drop of some 85%. The number of victims also decreased particularly among the females younger than 13. With CP laws in place, 8.3% of the victims were younger than 13. After legalization the percentage of victims younger than 13 years of age dropped to 4.0%.

"Protecting", I'm "suggesting" that innate sexual behavior in teens is completely normal and is not a crime. The true crime here is in adults that impose overarching laws that do far more harm than good.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
sylynn(626) Disputed
2 points

Actually 15 is correct in some states, considering that marriage with parental consent is allowed

Age of marriage with parental consent and age of consent are two different things. It's quite obvious in that it's the parent giving consent, not the child.

I'm not Google, go ahead do your own research.

No, if you want to make a claim that something is true, the burden of proof is on you.

The true crime here is in adults that impose overarching laws that do far more harm than good.

In what ways? The problem isn't simply two teens sexting or sending pics/videos to each other, but rather they can't keep it private and can quickly get in view of an adult. There was another debate here (likely yours as well) positing that sexting should be legal for teens. My first thought was to agree because whether it's said face to face or via text, what difference does it make? There is a difference in that with a text it will quickly wind up on the internet.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Atrag(5666) Disputed
2 points

Source for crime statistics? I'm not Google, go ahead do your own research.

Presumably you are talking about the legalisation of child pornography. No such crime statistic will exist because it is illegal in every country within the UN. There is a UN resolution on it.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
2 points

I would agree with you if only all participants could be confirmed legally consenting. But the industry that makes it has a long history of lieing about or faking consent, plus there is no way an infant could ever consent.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Progressive5(79) Clarified
1 point

Keep in mind, the issue I'm raising to legalizing is viewing/possession only. You raise a valid point about producing, but that is a separate issue. Also, you are considering just the porn producers... don't forget this impacts teens that sext and nudists as well.

Side: Yes, makes sense.

These no fault anything goes Progressives have the intellect of complete morons!

LOOK AROUND! Did you happen to noticed since this sexual revolution, the numbers of our fatherless children keep spiralling upwards?

Did you happen to notice our welfare roles are filled with unwed mothers?

Did you happen to notice how extreme the Democrat party has become with even no restriction abortions?

Did you happen to notice there are approx. one million Babies aborted every year compared to far less than that in the 60's or before?

DO YOU CARE? Of course not. You are the self love progressives who care nothing that our ntion is going bankrupt fiscally (20 TRILLION IN DEBT) and morally.

Your no fault sexual revolution is a complete failure, but idiots will keep spewing complete lies tht it is doing just fine.

Ask all these children with no fathers at home. Ask them how it's doing.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
ironskillet(220) Disputed
2 points

How does this relate to the argument? We're discussing whether or not porn/nudity should be legal to view. Even if it is part of the "sexual revolution", it's not related to abortion.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
4 points

He never relates to the argument. That's just his technique.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

Well if you do not know how the sexual revolution has led to more porn, nudity, sex on TV, constant sexual imputs into people's minds, etc.

These things lead to a much much much more promiscuous culture which creates all the problems I described.

Abortion is the Left's answer to the results of this sexual revolution. The Left hates the very mention of moral values so their only answer to all the pregnancies created from this self love sexual revolution, is abortion.

Moral values were once lifted up to keep our culture sexually responsible. Today, they have censored any dialogue on moral values in the public square. Their only answer is to kill the Baby.

I can't believe you need to have my remarks explained. It should be obvious what has been going on for decades in this culture.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.
Progressive5(79) Clarified
1 point

"Did you happen to notice"... Honestly, I think you have a tag line for your YouTube channel (no really, I think it is a good tag line and if someone isn't already doing it, you should). Also, too many off topic issues to discuss here but thank you for the comments.

Side: Yes, makes sense.
0 points

They're a bunch of perverts, their lust is the primary reason they will not seek God's mercy, they love their sin more than life and fool themselves into thinking they are exempt from Hell or that it won't be fire forever so they can be relieved....I won't read any of their garbage here.

Side: No, fill up the prisons.