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Should Christianity Accept Oral and/or Anal Sex Within Marriage

* The Two Danger Zones of Christian Marriage *

Since the beginning of Christianity, there has been a thoroughly ethical, morally consistent tradition when it comes to what sexual practices are acceptable within the sacred bonds of marriage. In summary, the Church has decided, on more than one occasion, that all oral and anal sex within marriage should be prohibited because it violates the natural law and is a sin against God. This Christian doctrine has its origins in the religion of Judaism, who also strongly and repeatedly condemned the practice of oral or anal sex between man and wife for many, many centuries. In the ancient world, it was the Jews who were the most likely among the many different peoples of Pagan Rome to restrict their marital intimacy to vaginal intercourse alone. This age-old tradition of natural and normal sexual sanctity within marriage played a major role in Christianity's decision to ban oral and anal marital intimacy permanently. That policy has remained unchanged for nearly 2,000 years. Here is the current Church teachings about this issue:

Some people consider that oral or anal sex, extramarital sex, homosexual acts, and masturbation are pleasurable. The Church has condemned such acts mainly because they are a violation of the procreative purpose which sexual acts are supposed to have.

- Pre-history of Humanae vitae, by David Dooley

Unnatural sexual acts (oral sex, anal sex, and manipulative sex, i.e. masturbation of self or of another) are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because these acts are not unitive and procreative.

- Questions and Answers on Catholic Marital Sexual Ethics, by Ronald L. Conte Jr.

It should be noted that, until just recently, nearly every single Protestant (or non-Catholic) denomination of Christianity had the exact same policy as the Roman Catholic Church. Tragically, some Protestants have changed their minds about this age-old Christian teaching and have suddenly declared oral sex, and sometimes even anal sex, to be acceptable marital practices. This represents a total reversal of nearly 2,000 years of Christian sexual ethics and does not bode well for Christianity. This new-found tolerance for these two major types of sexual perversion, what the dictionary clearly defines as sodomy, will only result in more, and more, and more types of sexual behavior becoming accepted by certain branches of Christianity. It appears the road to hell has already been paved with lust in the wrong directions. All that should be said is may God have mercy upon their souls.

Yes

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No

Side Score: 22
4 points

1 Corinthians 7:1-5

Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

If both the wife and husband agree to it then it should be okay. However, this does not include things like orgies, adultery, incest, etc.

Side: Yes
2 points

According to the Bible are we not all descendants of the same family? How did the Earth repopulate after god killed everyone if not through incest?

Side: No
trumpet_guy(503) Clarified
1 point

This is a touchy subject for most. Incest was allowed to populate the earth. Once their was enough of a human population to allow it to grow without it, it was then made an abomination to prevent messing up genes and such.

Side: Yes
maccabaeus(231) Disputed
1 point

Accepting sexual perversion into the Christian marriage bed is like giving a child a rattlesnake or cobra to play with while you are busy watching the latest episode of American Idol. We've been here before. The God-fearing families which make up the bulk of the Judeo-Christian tradition will weaken, degenerate and then fall apart under the spiritual weight of Sodomy- an ancient evil not well understand by many, many people. Here's a Biblical sampling of what may occur if the forces of Christianity refuse to wake and fight against the Beast - Sex, Sex, Sex:

One thing led to another. It was not enough to be wrong about the knowledge of God. They lived in a state of evil warfare, but they were so ignorant that they called it peace. They murdered children in their initiation rituals, celebrated secret mysteries, and held wild ceremonial orgies with unnatural practices. They no longer kept their lives or their marriages pure. A man might kill another by an act of treachery or cause him grief by committing adultery with his wife. Everything was a complete riot of bloody murder, robbery, deceit, corruption, faithlessness, disorder, falsehood, harassment of innocent people, ingratitude, moral decay, sexual perversion, broken marriages, adultery, and immorality. The worship of idols, whose names should never be spoken, is the beginning and the end, the cause and the result of every evil. People who worship them lose control of themselves in ecstasy, or pass off lies as prophecies, or live wickedly, or break their word without hesitation. They tell lies under oath and expect no punishment, because the idols they put their trust in are lifeless. But punishment will finally catch up with them, for two reasons: first, they were in error about God when they worshiped idols, and second, they had so little regard for holiness that they made false statements to deceive people. When unrighteous people commit sin, they will be hunted down, not by the power of whatever thing they swear by, but by the punishment that sinners deserve.

- Wisdom 14:22-31

Side: No
Emperor(1348) Disputed
2 points

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life.

I mean, to call natural human feelings evil is SO typical.

It basically means your church says "You are evil" and then offers a cure.

If the church calls you evil, and says you can be good, then you'd take it, right?

Or perhaps it's better to call your religion a religion of lies, and consider myself good because I do good things.

Faith is not good or noble, it is ignorance in it's purest, most dark form.

Good actions and deeds lead to a better world, not this corrupted religion of faith.

Side: Yes
3 points

Number one, anal and oral sex are both natural, or else we wouldn't have urges to do it. Animals throughout nature give oral sex, for example the bonobo monkey, and the fruit bat. Some animals even have nasal sex, like dolphins.

Number two, even if they were unnatural, that would not make them immoral. I challenge you to show how they are.

You've clearly never had a blowjob.

Side: Yes
mrsci999(41) Disputed
1 point

First question: Are you an animals?( if you yes say i sorry for you) Second question: Do animals have souls?( i personal believe they don't regardless of whatever sentient emotions they can express) Third question: Are you aware that these creatures acquire lethal through these actions diseases? Fourth question: Are also aware that they're creatures that are asexual and that gender differenation was really made to promote gene diversity not sexual gratification? Fifth question: Do know your ass was made expell material that people only fell pleasure in those areas because the nerves cells are similiar to these in your gential areas? Sixth question: Do know that sperm contains a acid compound that a helps in penitrait into your cells? Seventh question: Are aware that sex is really more psychological than it is physical? Eight question: Why would want a dick or vagina in your mouth? I'm not a christian i just think oral and anal sex is disgusting. Please answer anyone.

Side: No
Cynical(1948) Disputed
1 point

Humans are considered animals, yes. If humans have souls, then I'd assume all other animals have souls.

I'll let who you were disputing have the rest, because I honestly don't care for this topic.

Side: Yes
1 point

1. Yes.

2. No. But I don't think humans have souls, either.

3. Not entirely sure what the question is. Are you asking if I'm aware animals can get lethal diseases from anal or oral sex? Firstly, it's pretty hard to transmit STDs through oral unless you have some kind of open wound in your mouth. Secondly, well duh; you can get lethal diseases from having regular sex, so what makes you think anal wouldn't have this potential?

4. I know for a fact not all animals that engage in anal, oral, nasal (etc.) sex are asexual. So I don't know what your purpose is in pointing out that some of them are.

5. Did you know your shoulder is just a joint connecting your arm to your torso with muscle, bone, tendons, (etc.)? Does that make a shoulder rub feel any less good? No, of course not. So even if your anus is designed to expel waste, like your shoulder is designed to be a joint, does that mean we shouldn't stimulate it if it gives us pleasure? Would you really turn down a backrub on the basis that "that's not what my back is designed for?" No? Then why reject anal on that basis that "that's not what my ass is designed for?"

6. Yes. Many women have told me it makes a great moisturizer for this reason.

7. No, not really. Sex in my head never seems to compare to actually physically having sex.

8. Well I don't particularly want a penis in my mouth because I'm not a homosexual, but I do rather enjoy going down on girls for several reasons. I like pleasuring women, particularly those I care about. It also offers a unique kind of pleasure; oral sex and penetration sex feel very different to a woman, and it's nice to have several different kinds of ways to pleasure her so you're not just doing the same thing over and over. It's a great way to lubricate and loosen a girl up. I (generally; not with every girl, but most) like the taste. It's a great way to check for STDs (both visually and in terms of taste, and oral is best for this because like I said it's hard to transmit STDs through oral sex). I like receiving oral sex (for reasons obvious to anyone who has had a half-decent blowjob anytime in their life) and in my experience the more you give, the more you receive.

Some people need more going on to get them off, I guess. Maybe you're cool having polite, tame, missionary-position sex with women or your girlfriend or wife for the rest of your life. Maybe that works for you. Some people like a little more crazy action in the bedroom, and that's what gets them off. But calling that "disgusting" essentially makes you a prude.

Side: Yes

The Church should not concern itself with anything that happens behind closed doors, much less in the bedroom, and much, much less with the act of sticking a penis is someones anus or mouth. In fact, if the Church was less obsessed with this issue, I bet there would be a whole lot of alter boys who would still possess their anal/oral virginity.

Side: Yes
2 points

Sex should have nothing to do with the Church what happens between consenting people is between them and them alone. According to Christian Doctrine Sex should only be for procreation and no other reason which is just ridiculous but if people want to follow Doctrine and only have sex for procreation then that's up to them but they should'nt be ramming down other people's throat's either in the end it's just personal choice

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes, and outside marriage too.

Sex is a gift given from God. Its up to ourselves to decide whether we wanna be in a marriage or outside marriage when we explore it.

Sex is not a sin.

Side: Yes
maccabaeus(231) Disputed
1 point

What exactly is the name of the God you worship and believe. Is his real name something like Zeus, or Bacchus, or Apollo, or Osiris, Ra, Amon, or Marduk, Baal or Molech, or Odin or Thor? I know the REAL name of the God YOU believe is Satan, and he's just not my style.

Side: No
_deleted0_(850) Disputed
0 points

No I believe in the christian God in the bible.

Btw.. Satan isn't a God - and don't think you know what people believe in just by writing one argument.

Side: Yes
1 point

First of all, it is still within marriage and done by informed and consenting adults thus it should not be such a moral problem. You can make a big deal out of premarital sex, sure, but if it is done by married couples you don't have a right to invade privacy and meddle into their own bedroom affairs. If it is done by married couples in their own locked no-children bedroom, there is no damage being done to anybody and no family being destroyed.

And about the talks on "sodomy": Sodom's real sin was GANG RAPE and that's where God lost his tolerance, with "sodomy" (non-vaginal sex) simply being used as a tool. By this same logic, knives are a tool for killing anyone and penises are a tool of violence, so therefore should we ban them?

Also, I can understand ancient Jewish prohibition against anal sex. You put your penis in an incubator for pathogens, and unlike Ancient Greece and Rome, you don't even have access to proper sanitation and you're stuck in a hot desert (more pathogens). Hence the association between homosexuality and STDs which, without proper scientific investigation, were interpreted and hand-waved as divine punishment.

Side: Yes
1 point

Expression of love true making is something that someone do it beyond boundary. In sex, no matter how and what procedure you will do, it is still part of making love perfection.

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Side: Yes
1 point

Yes. The marriage bed is undefiled. :)

Side: Yes
3 points

Christianity - or any religion, for that matter - ought not change its moral standards to reflect the changing moral standards of the populace. Such is to deny the veridicality of the religion, for supreme truths are not subject to change and, if they cannot change, are indicative of fault within the religion and to accept fault within a religion is to deny the religion. Because the religion in question teaches that the seed should only be spilled for procreational purposes, to suddenly, after thousands of years, change this view is to deny thousands of years of doctrine. Every piece of doctrine must be perfect, lest the religion reveal itself to be anything less.

Side: No

Ideally, yes, but unfortunately original Christian doctrine is wholly barbaric. If Christianity hadn't been in a constant state of morphing it's teachings to better adhere to it's host society, all practicing Christians would quickly go to jail for things like owning slaves and killing their children, and the Christian Church would be declared a terrorist organization founded on hate speech.

Side: No
2 points

I do not support this view, but I think your argument is great, so I am going to support it.

Side: No
Liber(1730) Clarified
1 point

"if they cannot change" should say "if they can change".

Side: Yes

Christianity - or any religion, for that matter - ought not change its moral standards to reflect the changing moral standards of the populace.

YES! FINALLY! This is exactly what I've been saying for so long. It truly strikes at the validity of the religion.

Side: No

No they shouldn't, its their religion and they can do what ever the hell they want with it!

Side: No

No, because then there wouldn't be any taboo or "naughty" sex. Sex would become boring and people would become even more outrageous in an attempt to add a little spice to their love making. People would be like,

Person 1: "Hey..., wanna try some anal sex?" and the other person would be like,

Person 2: "Nah..., been there, done that. What's the point? It's not like we would be doing something naughty, exciting and new."

Person 1: "How about some anal sex followed by some oral sex?"

Person 2: "You sick bastard.... wait..., I don't think that's allowed...., OK..., let's do it ;)"

Side: No
1 point

Really, they should just ignore it. It has nothing to do with religion.

Side: No