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Should Christians start standing up for themselves!

There have been many instances where people have tried to get rid of some things  in the us because it is related to God and some Christians (i'm a christian also) some just don't try to stop it!

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Side Score: 116
4 points

I don't see any reasons for any group not to stand up for themselves.

Side: yes
2 points

Anything even remotely pro-religious gets downvoted instantaneously on this site.

Side: yes
3 points

That's so true. It doesn't matter how good your argument may be, it gets voted down if it even hints that you aren't an atheist.

Side: yes
1 point

really well any non religeous and disrespectful gets downvoted by my allies

Side: No
3 points

Every group - even atheists and Muslims and Hindus and Biddhists and activists, etc. - should stand up for themselves. Why should Christianity be any different?

Side: yes
3 points

Its already happening just many claim but they still dont understand

Side: yes
3 points

I think that people should stand up for what they believe in..No matter what the cause..if its what you believe in then fight for it..

and its called Christmas for a reason

Side: yes
1 point

I think Christians should start standing up for themselves. I mean come on its like the WHOLE WORLD is against Christians. They need to at the highest protest. some people are trying to get the replica of the 10 Commandments out of the Supreme Court!

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

I mean come on its like the WHOLE WORLD is against Christians

You sound like a moron. I don't say that lightly, here's why:

The majority of Americans identify themselves as Christians (76%), while non-Christian religions (including Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and others) collectively make up about 4% of the adult population.[3] Another 15% of the adult population identified as having no religious affiliation.[4] According to the American Religious Identification Survey, religious belief varies considerably across the country: 59% of Americans living in Western states (the "Unchurched Belt") report a belief in God, yet in the South (the "Bible Belt") the figure is as high as 86%

And representing that overwhelming Christian majority link

That's right, 45 Jews, 5 unidentified, and all 484 other people representing us in Government believe in your imaginary friend.

If anything I'd say non-Christians should start standing up for themselves. I mean what happened to fair representation? There are currently 0 self-proclaimed atheists, I feel under-represented.

Actually, I don't really care what imaginary friend you want to talk to at church as long as you don't shove it down my throat... like by putting religious paraphernalia up in places funded by tax dollars.

Why can't you just keep your silly religion to yourself? Why this need to make everyone else drink the Kool-Aid?

It's very telling, this need Christians have to make themselves the victims when they obviously are not. Does creating these false dilemmas somehow validate your deep psychosis? I'm genuinely curious.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
3 points

See right now you are you have just proved what i was saying by attacking my Christianity. By the way you don't sound to smart yourself.

Side: yes
MKIced(2510) Disputed
3 points

I don't care what religion my leaders are, because I just want the best leaders and I believe in separation of Church and state. So go ahead and get rid of any religious things from government buildings. I don't care about that.

But I am fed up with atheists bashing Christianity because they don't believe it. I make it a point to not bash atheists (or any other religion, etc) because I know what it's like. So I will stand up against people who claim that I believe in an "imaginary friend you want to talk to at church" and who call my beliefs a "silly religion."

Side: yes
RaveForFun(13) Disputed
1 point

In my point of seeing, I am not a Christian, but I am not agents them. I think that all should be the same, and nobody agents another just because of religion. But it does get pretty anoying when the type of Christians that try to preach about the religion to people that are not.

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

They need to at the highest protest. some people are trying to get the replica of the 10 Commandments out of the Supreme Court!

Good. We are a secular country, not a Christian one.

I mean come on its like the WHOLE WORLD is against Christians

Get over yourself.

Side: No
1 point

I was lost in the Darkest parts of my own wicked ways, spiraling down a path of destruction leading me away from His Almighty ways, and all the while im going down ONLY ONE, He could save me. No matter how far i looked on this lowly planet, i never once found a soul who could manage, to show me the love that i truly needed, because on this planet aint nothing but hate and contempt have been breeded. the lowly snake slithering as he goes through the towns of man looking for lowly lowly souls, to feed on so that it could plant it's evil seeds, and so that throughout the generations nothing but evil and hate we could recieve, but those where the ways of the past, my brothers and sisters. the devil had a hold of us and he managed through our parents, down through the generations His ways have been lost, and because of the us, the devil has turned and tossed, We can All be saved, all we need is Thanksgiving, to the One who Above, for All of His Givings. The devils trying to stop me right now as i speak, but Faithful to the Lord and willit He, that i may be meek. Because it is He not i that gives you this message but it is The One that we All should seek. i know that it is hard to find Rest, as we all go through this test some call a game, every single last one of us, probably, training to gain and retain our fame. But That is not what this life is about, i have a Strong feeling that we are All getting our Water from the wrong wrong spout. because thats all the devil has for us is a little bit, of pleasure, then comes the pain. steady feeding our bodies what i see now Is Insane. because ya'll hafto see that we are all carnally minded, and This is the reason The LORD, us he has blinded, binding, ourselves to our own flesh, so that eventually we would All fail this Test. but know that The Lord, He loves us, and wishes nothing but the best, and all He wants is for us to Love Him all the while through this Test. some wonder why we see nadoes and quakes, He needs ya'll to know that its Ya'lls souls that He is trying to shake. and bake if you will, so the devil may not have his fill, to letchya'll know that there is NONE like that ALMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFULL ONE. i say full because Hes filled with Love, like None that we have seen on this lowly earth, but now that i have SEEN, my Eyes have been UnBlinded, and now it is He, He who signs this, letter so maybe that some of Ya'll could listen, and Maybe get the Message that He is trying to dish, out of His spout, so that ya'll might be fed, with all of His Love, His Water, And His Bread. Don't for a second think any of Ya'll are living, All of ya'll are dead and for the devil are you "living" as i sit here and do this all of the "dome" just know that it is Not me and that this is His tomb. He is singing through me in these words and this song, so that maybe one day we All can be free all the day long, and ya'll can say its cheesy if ya'll want, but just know the devil in you he does flaunt x) i had to stop and show ya'll how i felt about that one, cuz its the truth, and right now i have a Strong feeling He is swinging harder than that brother Babe Ruth, or ballin harder than micheal jordan, and in this song he Is Playing His Accordian. Ya'll just need to know that He is our Guardian, and right now im flying Higher than any single air jordan, because my love i gave to Him more than any of Ya'll so i guess i can say more than them. But dont getit twizted like boi's if ya'll know, that me and moreover Him, have a lot to show. we are all brothers and sisters, but i should call us the missers, because we all fail to see the smaller things in this world, without even thinking twice, what truly brings a man alot of happiness or to see the pain that ALOT of us have in us. i know that we are all hurting on the inside, and for ya'll who say we dont, Boi, you know that is a lie, because only with Him and not that evil leech from down south, can we truly fly. higher than the highest of trees or the tallest of mountains, But in Him we Have to trust, so that We may Drink From The One and Only True fountain, only because of Him can i do this for days, and its Because i gave Him my love, thanksgiving, and praise. so now that i have seen what it is truly to be Man, Men of God, all these hater out there who bout to say something aint nuthing more than sod. sorry if it dont make sense, just know that me and Him the latter first, We are just trying to give His children, ya'll some mother lovin cents. forgive me if i pause for no longer am i a vulgar man life is just a beach, and Now, He is playing in the sand, hopefully in the minds of the young, the daughters and sons, i have my holster, and now the Lord is my Gun, Shining Brighter, than a million suns, times two, because His love is True, actually make that twenty twenty, because He is aplenty, in me in you and All, i just hope that ya'll can hear His call, so that maybe that ya'll may not fall, into the Pit, but right now i can say the devil is probably having a fit, of anxiety cuz he is losing his "children" just know that we are God's and with me He has been pilfering, in my mind day and night, as i have been in my room trying to stay out of sight, of ya'll because all it seems like to me, that nothing to ya'll it would please, more, than to see one of your own fellow brother get shot and fall. when i look around me i dont see any real love, this evil surrounds me, but Now i DO NOT CARE, because the Lord, THE LORD, HE has found me. so now ya'll cannot touch, because with His love, im about to bust. with loving Faith and Trust, i put in Him, so that i can be led away from this life of sin, and Now that i have His Trust, my brotha's and sista's, not just the black ones, comeon now, that just is not a must, there is no such thing man, all that is, is nothing more than an evil thought, brought up in vain, so that maybe a man's soul, that leech, can be bought. Quit being evil, for it is Love, that should be sought, out so once again we may be fed from His Spout, for only He can give us what we need so that in the end we may succeed. my brothers and sisters all we need to do is Believe, and then, Anything, together, WE CAN ACHIEVE. this is an ode to ya'll so in hopes once again that ya'll may hear The Call, and will not fall, so one day me, ya'll, and The Almighty,Perfect, like a prefect without the er, Omnipotent, and Patient ONE, that together we May All Ball. and they keep telling me to stop, but i just cant my brothers me and Him are headed to the top, and right now i got The Heart Of A Lion, King, and pray tell me my brothers and sisters who are reading, what single Beast can stop that king? of the jungle we are running but with Him we can be free. out into the open pasture we all can roam, just know this is not me, and that this is His Tomb. its wierd how they're spelled alike but do not rhyme, im talking bout bomb my brothers, and its One of a Kind. in the Hopes that this petty rhyme, can help lead the black sheep, away from the Blind, being themselves, for who? tell me can save them from that? if you dont answer right then your a part of this blight that runs rampant through the streets, evil im talking about and all it wants to do is eat, your souls because it is angry at the Living God, hahahaha for it is nothing more than a sod, on His Cleat as He is Running, Hoping that some of these Words, hit you right in the stomach, and make you sick, but not you, im talking about the evil you, for we are all children of God, but we have made ourselves nothing more than a sod =( i say with a heavy heart, because all this time we have been playing the devil, his part, but with Him it is nothing but a fart, because He Forgives, and Only Through Him may we EVER, get the chance to Live, and im not talking about on the earth, im talking about another, and maybe one day you can see and i can Truly call you my Brother, for there is Life in Death, but it is only gained through this life which is a test, just know that when we die, if you have lived righteously, on that day you will Fly, for the Lord will Breathe His Breath in you when you die and like i said before You Will Fly, but not if you keep eating from the devil's table, for you can only eat from one, and i hope its Not the devil's table. for if we Eat from Him, we can All go back into His Stable, and only in doing that can we Ever truly be stable, only only if, we are eating from, The Living God's Table. and for ya'll who are sitting at your computers steadily dissin Him, i pray for you, because it you are missin, Him and the bigger picture, just know right now im taking a Big Gulp From His Ultimate Pitcher, not one from the MLB, and if you are listening then i pray that you sea, i mean see, but with Him we can fly over the one before, and higher than mike, dunk it in, right for a score, but not for 2 for it is for 3, because He is Holy in me, but atm holy in you, because you missing some parts, we all need to change, so that we may play His Part, that He intended from the Beginning, because only With Him can we ever be winning, but hahahaha not as long as we are sinning. for that is not the way that we was meant to walk, With Him we was mean to Walk and Talk. once again i say this way i, used to, but we choose to live, is insane in the membrane, but He is using me as His Template, lol or templar whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, ha just without the errrr. as i sit here steadily dissin em i mean the demons in the minds of the children of the One and Only, God Who Is Kind, i hope that they depart, so we can All gaze upon The Divine, not like wine or watch, i aint lil wayne, just know that i feel like im the only one who is sane. because i AM NOT PERFECT, do not get the wrong message for that would hurt me, only He is, and He just wants some love from His Kids, but for some odd reason... we still choose to do the evil leeches bids, for i feel he has sucked to much from us, all of our blood, i mean soul, it has tucked from us, and right now He is aiming at it with a Big Ol' Blunderbuss. to shoot it and unleech it, from His Children's Soul's so one day maybe we can gaze upon, That Wonderful City Of Gold, and dont letit peak your in ter ests, for if you do your not getting whats bests, from this test that He has beset, for our minds to ponder and think on, maybe in some of the hearts out there this message is shining, for He is a Beacon of Light, to shine out all the evils, and end this ugly, hateful blight, that courses through our vains, that nasty garbage that makes us feel insane, because no one is living right, and for That NONE is sane. you can talk and sit there and chatter, but i pray and hope that none get fatter, and im not talking because of mcdonalds, im talking about your ego and pride, because We Alll NEED to push that aside, all we seem to do is breed hate and contempt, sitting there looking for another hurt sould to feed on, thinking it makes us content, but just know NOW people, lolol all your doing is letting the devil be your PIMP! ha ha ha i think that really funny, because in the words of man that just makes ya'll some ho's, and please forgive my trespasses my sisters and brothers, for my vulgar words, because i Did Not mean to hurt, He's just trying to keep our faces from being rubbed in the dirt. but it really shouldnt matter because we are mud, and from One we all came, so can i not call ya'll blood??? nah im not talking about them two glock shotta's, im talking bout from The One Who Has Always Got Us, not us as in the navy, i mean us as in the ones who might sit on that bus, the one going to school and to the ones who drool in class, and all of us who needs a kick in the, pause, ya'll know what i mean, im just sitting here trying not be obscene, all im trying to do is get the bigger picture, through ya'll minds so that maybe one day, we can All WALK IN THE LORDS WAY. forgive me if i make any of ya'll mad, if i do know that i Am sad, but how about ya'll just go to the store and go and grab on of them happy hefty bags, you know i meant glad if you didnt you are simple, and forgive me as i sit here and bust this pimple, lol sorry that was nasty just know that i didnt, and know that we are all fake, and its time for some rhino plasty, or however its spelled im just hoping some hearts will melt, like the plastic we are, and become melded into flesh, as i sit here and type in this Soul Food test, for if ya'll can't hear me then your hearts are so cold, forgive me as i trespass, because, uhm, i Am not trying to be bold, im just tryna through some fia atcha hearts, in the hopes that you may leave the Dark, ness not loch just in case thats watchu thought, all you gotta do is leave your flesh behind, and know that He is the one who Should Be Sought, out so we can drank From His Spout, cuz the Lord Knows, man it has been a drought. we are all so thirsty, but in order to be filled its The Lord who must come firsty x) just know that me and Him are going Stooopid, and for those who are real maaan i thoughtchu knew it. and if you dont i pray you haven't already blew it, up i mean your ego, like a balloon, just know right now i feel like taz boi, yup them looney toones, or tunes whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, just without the err. and i say pre because He was always here, yes before you and me, but with Him i wanna letchu know that we can all be as pure, and as white as the snow, just like powder we can all be melted, i mean melded into the beings we were meant to be, so one day we may fly free as a dove, Right over the sea, so that we all can reach New Jerusalem, yup just right where we was all meant to be, that is the Golden City for those who did not, know, im just hoping that one day we can All be as pure as the snow, because the evil has taunted and flaunted and given us a show, to peak i mean perk up our ears and it, that leech i mean, gave us nothing but fears, fears of ourselves and one another, fears from our sisters and daughter, Father, and brothers, but we have a right to Fear the Living God, because to Him we have all become a sod, He is sorrowful and cries as we follow, the evil being, who was never meant to be followed, and i felt His pain at one point in time, yes i Am talking About the Divine, we both cried together, in my room, because of the little things we miss, something just as small as, a heartfelt kiss... for it is the little things that bring us the greatest joy, not some diamond chain, or a, wind up toy, the biggest thing of all that should, is His Love, should bring us the Greatest joy, in the world, for thats all it is man just cars and noise, all the long going our way, Missing the sweetest noise, zes ya'll know what i mean, im talking about the One who is Never obscene, for He is Just And Right, in each and every single way, and for our sins my borhters and sisters, we have to pay, but do not fret for it is never to late, I think we all need to call upon The Divine, and we should All go on a date, do not worry for on this date there is no rape, or murder, or hate, for that is of the devil, and Your Soul it will take, there is no worries once you follow Him, we should all be hand in hand as we walk down this path, called, life Never having to worry about no pain or strife, or for a bigger picture His Wrath, but ONLY IF WE DRINK FROM HIS PITCHER. for The All Powerful and Righteous Wrath, only comes when you stray from His Path, it is there to show us our wrongs...can you feel His Soul as i sit here and Sing His song? and with Him i will NEVER fall, because with my Brother, I will always Hear His Call. i say we but it is Him, who say these words to in the hopes, that those who have an Ear to listen may never Fall, into the Pit, all you have to do is have Faith, Follow The Ten, Believe, and never EVER Quit, for in order to gain His All Perfect and Good Graces, we have to eliminate ALL the Hate and evil, in all sorts of places, i have a feeling this song was wrote long before, just in His mind and now in mine, and i sing His song in the Hopes, that you follow Him and not any of these "popes" for no hope lies in them, lol and if you truly think aboutit that actually rhymed, just know that im thinking of Him, foremost, but ya'll too as i steadily write This Rhyme, it comes from above yup, Straight From the Divine, in the Hopes that one day ya'll can SEE, exactly it was that we was missing, so we can All fly over the sea. Man this thing is long but i should Say God, because this is His Rhyme, and not from a sod, like me or you, if you real you can feel its True, as His Sword aims at the hearts of His good, flying Straight and Through, lol i mean True, but them if you can follow my friend, all we gotta do is sing Praises and Thanksgiving to Him, until the very end, and give Him all of our love, Because WITHOUT HIM, ha There WOULD BE NO LOVE, all there would be is pain and suffering, and i hope that the ones who are, suffer, i mean acating, Might actually stop and take the time to sit there and be debating, against the devil of course, cuz all it wants to do is, lead us, right, or left, but straight off our course. Lord Please Forgive me, if i am being coarse just know that i am your back, and You Are My Horse, lol ya'll might think He's heavy but He's really not, and i Love Him till Death, i mean Life, cuz i have found It, but back to the point, because i HE HAS TAUGHT, never went to church or none of that, maybe when i was younger but none of that, for our minds our are churches, ha gotit backwards but i feel as tall as the burches, talking bout them trees man im over the seas man, just know i cant, wait, My Father, until You Kick Over My Can Man x) aw man i thoughit was funny, because he's One Cool Dude, and i am His, Bunny, i mean Collie, and know that as i, i mean He, but as i bark, that i have a Strong feeling, that i am playing my Part, or His i prefer the latter but the choice is yurs, because it is His Puzzle, and i am the last part, i cant be for certain because the Knowledge is His, but im just trying to bring His Black Sheep back, you know i mean His KIDS, He thoughtit was funny, But ya'll best Believe that He NOR i the first comes first, but neither one of us is No, pause, Dummy, lol but if you choose you can beat and bite, whatever you do just know it is out of spite, and i dont capitilize because its an evil word, just know me and HIM, are trying to end this wrongful blight, and saying these words i Hope that maybe, just maybe some can be given the Sight, that HE intended us to have, right, from Go, talking bout monopoly,lol but no no more, from the start maaaan all HE ever wanted was us to give our heart, which is HIS, because He gave to us, All that is HIS, HE just Wanted someone to talk to man, thats why HE made HIS Kids, HE was all alone, and then HE built, a Beautiful place for us, and HIM, to walk and talk all the while, just laughing and talking, seeing eachother smile =) because HE is our FATHER, He's not as mean ha as ya'll would believe, just know that HE TRULY IS ONE BENEVOLENT KING. lol ha ha i think this is funny, He knows what im talking about, cuz this is all of the top of the dome with barely a second to pause, Just Know the THE LION KING, Has Opened HIS Claws, Blessed be the children who took the time to listen, to the message that a, and The King is steadily dishin, i say a because i am one too, but know that im a servant, and from a Seed i did Grew, i dont care if it makes no sense to ya'll because i have heard the Lords Call, and they, they know who they are, are always listening, and as He types, through, me i have a feeling they are about to call, Prayer is the Best Wireless Connection X) aint no service down here got that type of Connection, i just hope that i get to see some of ya'll at that intersection, i mean Crossroads, bone thugz n harmony, they said it first, man thats the song man and if you feel their soul, then maybe you should hurt, because those bois on the streets back in the day, all they was doing was searching for some Peace, but in the streets, the oppressors, following the devil, have no love for us in the slums, just know that we All have a Holster and God Is our Gun, we dont need no metal, for The Lord our issues HE will settle, all you gotta do is Have some Faith, saying this in hope that some dont see any wraiths, talking demons people come now and please listen, as the Lord spits his song and these Words HE is dishin, out yup you getting it word of mouf, lol or mouth whichever you prefer just DONT follow that lowly snake, yup the one down south, it might try and offer pleasure and happiness butits all fake, HA what do ya'll expect from a lowly snake? remeber eve as she sat under that tree? sitting there thinking and feeling the breeze? the snake spoke in her Ear temptation it did bring, and after teel me WHO did she fear? she had a split second of happiness and thats all it can give, and after that she felt the WRATH which is ONLY HIS, lol i hope that ya'll see, the way we live people, it just wasn't meant to be, i have a feeling that there all up there laughing, with, not at me as i type out His message, and i pray ALMIGHTY FATHER, THE ONES WHO HAVE AN EAR TO LISTEN PLEASE FATHER PLEASE LET THE HEAR. and the ones who dont i pray you dont hit him hard, maybe just a little tap, just like Babe Ruth, on that baseball card x) Peace be with you my sisters and brothers, just know that HIS LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER, GOD BLESS ALL WHO FINISHED, AND I PRAY YOUR SOULS NEVER, DIMINISH. ONE HEART IS ALL, AND WITH THAT HEART WE CAN NEVER FALL, lol i said i was finished, but i dont think HE is as you can tell this words are not mine, THEY COME FROM THE UPPER BEING, yup THE DIVINE!!! i think im going to cut Him short and please Forgive me, because i know HE could go all day, BECAUSE I CAN FEEL HIM IN ME.

Side: yes
1 point

Start? They never stopped standing up for themselves. Read your bible if you have one, they didn't just stand up, they died for standing up.

Side: yes

Christians should stand up for themselves but they cannot infringe the rights of others.

Side: yes
-3 points
gcomeau(536) Disputed
2 points

Oh yes, you're just terribly persecuted you poor things. I mean, what is a tiny little religion of 2 billion people making up the majorities in most of the most powerful nations on earth to do to defend themselves? Chistians are just so helpless and downtrodden. I weep for them.

Give me a break with the persecution complex.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
3 points

Give me a break your arguments are against me not any other Christian. I have not been persecuted YET and so if you think are group is so large and popular why don't you join us.

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world in case you didn't know.

Christianity isn't persecuted, Christian Nationalism is not tolerated because it is a form of fascism and theocracy in disguise. Try learning about the subjects you want to discuss before arguing about them.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
2 points

Muslim and other religions are also theocracy and a form of fascism. The religions that believe in reincarnation you don't call that theocracy and a form of fascism.

Side: yes
Akulakhan(2985) Disputed
1 point

(holocaust) .

Side: No
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

If Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world it is because of OTHER Christians were persecuting them.

Side: No
4 points

They should stand up for themselves, but not for the reasons given. The government says that they will not make any law respecting an establishment of religion. That includes putting Christian related beliefs into buildings that are government ran.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

Ok but i'm just saying these are just small events but these smaller events are going to lead into bigger events and soon here in the Us Christianity will be outlawed if things continue the way they are going!

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
8 points

Ok but i'm just saying these are just small events but these smaller events are going to lead into bigger events and soon here in the Us Christianity will be outlawed if things continue the way they are going!

Stop listening to your pastors, televangelists or whoever is feeding you your opinion. It is illegal to ban religion in this country. Stop using fear to justify encroaching religious entanglement.

Side: No
brycer2012(1002) Disputed
1 point

I highly doubt that, especially because this country was founded because of religious persecution. The government has no right to outlaw any religion.

Side: No
goundy(18) Disputed
1 point

The founding fathers were seculists. They didn't government entangled with religion.

Side: No
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

That's the slippery slope fallacy, used to justify poorly constructed arguments. There is absolutely no credible connection between removing religion from government, and banning religion, absolutely none. And the constitution specifically protects freedom of religion.

For the government to be fair, it needs to be completely and totally NEUTRAL regarding religion, and it can't be neutral if people keep putting religious symbols on government property.

Side: No
Sulith(508) Disputed
-1 points

The Constitution says that.

Anyway, it's unconstitutional to run the same bill through and get it vetoed but ran through again and get it passed. (Health Care)

So whats stopping them?

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

Your lack of understanding is dizzying.

A veto is a power of a President. Healthcare was not vetoed.

It passed legally, using the laws of the land. And there is nothing in the Constitution or any other document that says people shouldn't be allowed to have Healthcare but there is stuff in the Constitution about separating religion from government.

So your comment really makes no sense at all.

Side: No
kk0bbr(28) Disputed
1 point

thats why they changed the bill and ran it through again, so it wasn't the same.

you got that from fox new right?

some people just believe everything their told. stupid.

Side: No
2 points

Christians are and have been a majority since this country's birth, therefore it should come as little surprise that the majority has turned a blind eye to bills that have been passed which are unconstitutional but support their interests none-the-less.

It's just the recently in American history atheists, nonbelievers and other religious groups are finally able to have a public voice without fearing ostracisation by their fellow Christian countrymen, and are consequently able to fight for a return to our secular roots (I.E. no religion in government affairs).

Side: No
2 points

Christianity is the most common world religion. Compared to other discriminated religions, Christians have nothing to fear.

Side: No
1 point

I'm sorry, what? Is this another "oh poor persecuted Christians in the US" argument? Wow, it's been a while since I saw someone try that.

Oh yes, by all means, what the nation really needs is for Christians to stand up for themselves! I mean come on people! Just imagine the possibilities!!! If you start asserting yourselves and stop letting people walk all over you maybe you can ever get them to put "in God we trust" on the money, and "one nation under God" in the Pledge of allegiance, and have public officials swear on bibles, and get tax exemptions for your churches... and dare we dream? If miracles really do happen, we may live to see the day when we have a Christian president.

So come on Christians! Just think about what might be yours if only you rise up and throw off the shackles of oppression in the United States!

Side: No
1 point

The more extreme Christians (like the one who started this debate) thinks that they are entitled to something. Don't they get it? Separation of church and state. What's there not to understand here. They think that everyone in the US should live by there moral standards. Newsflash idiots, you are not everyone, and not everyone is Christian.

Side: No
Denthomson(3) Disputed
1 point

In each case diffrent degrees ,we are

To do no harm & to help when we can .

Or walk away & leave those persons to God.

Regards denise

Side: no
1 point

Ever read a history book son? If standing up for yourself included colonizing in the form of crusades, witch-burnings and inquisitions. Then they may have crossed the line, just a tad.

If you are talking about modern day weedy, sandle-wearing, pushover stereotype Christians; then yes, probably.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

We Christians are trying to save you non-believers from going to Hell. If you do not repent then you are going there.

Side: yes
goundy(18) Disputed
1 point

Look here my friend, I alread gave you an erudite explanation as to why every word of that sentence is pure processed crap.

I am a Christian. However the difference between me and you is that I do not force my point of view upon others.

Faith is not conceptual or literary but its a mindset which cannot be spread by word of mouth. If you want people to become Christian you cannot scare them into doing so by fear of "going to hell", as that is contrary to the ideaology of faith.

Please read the other dispute I wrote because I dont think you understand.

Side: No
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

And you need the Governments help to do that?

Not on my tax dollars.

Not on my tax dollars.

Not on my tax dollars.

Do you see a pattern here?

Not on my tax dollars.

Side: No
1 point

they should just die out, their time is over just let it happen, shhhhhh, go to sleep llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Side: No

Maybe if Christians would stay out of other people's lives and not spread the gospel of God, then Christians would have nothing to worry about.

Side: No
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

We are just trying to do you a favor and save your souls from going to hell.

Side: yes
goundy(18) Disputed
2 points

Look here my friend. One instance where a Christian, just like you, tried to influence someones choice of faith was during the Spanish Inquisitions. Over 5,000 people were tortured to death over a short space of time. This was carried out over a number of centuries and for many other Catholic/Protestant Countries.

I am a Christian. However the difference between me and you is that I do not force my point of view upon others.

Even in the old testement the Lord himself warned of spreading ones faith, as it leads to consequences such as that stated in the above.

Faith is not conceptual or literary but its a mindset which cannot be spread by word of mouth. If you want people to become Christian you cannot scare them into doing so by fear of "going to hell", as that is contrary to the ideaology of faith.

Why is it then that you also think that your politically correct mainstream Christianity is the only way to eternal life? Pope Benedict 11th said himself that there are many different ways to eternal life as different religions are different paths to the same God, usually.

This is true to Islam, judaism and Christianity. All three spawning from the same man.

So think twice before you accuse others was not being as 'righteous' as you. You cause people to think that our establishment is full of hypocrits ang bigots.

Side: No
1 point

You personally are going to save us or the word of gospel. If the word of gospel, then people should have the free will to pursue that word of god instead of people trying to push it.

Side: No