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He should build a wall. The Chinese did, and their civilization just keeps getting better and more powerful. You don't see a lot of illegals or jihadists crossing into China.
Well, it seems we can add history to the list of things you're prepared to lie about? You obviously have some serious intellectual issues given how far from reality and critical thought you are.
While you may freely believe thousand year old technology will deal with 21st centrury problems, and you may believe that military fortifications against armies and hoards are equally effective against individuals, you still forget that the cost, man power and other factors required to make such a wall effective; and forget that the amount of Chinese border on which there is a wall is about 0.
But obviously, it appears thinking is not your strong point.
Im not entirely sure what planet you're living on; but the comprehensive denial of reality and rational thought makes it easy to understand why you voted for and still support a charlatan and clown:
Emotionally Desperate and angry people like yourself are easy to exploit and manipulate.
Well, it seems we can add history to the list of things you're prepared to lie about
Let's look at my points.
1)China built a big wall. True
2)China has no open border policy for illegal aliens. True
3)China has no problem with illegals flooding its borders. True
4)China does not have an Islamic jihadist problem. True
Ya see, for me to "tell a lie", I have to actually... tell a lie or be incorrect. Would you like the definition of lie? I can provide a link to the dictionary if you need.
The lie is you claiming 2,3 and 4 is because of 1.
I pointed out why it is a lie: and the fact you sit realise that what you just claimed is refuted by history, geography and basic common sense really speaks volumes about your idiocy
You're denials are relatively meaningless as you lie about pretty much everything; your behaviour clearly indicates you have issues significant anger and emotional issues.
While you may freely believe thousand year old technology will deal with 21st centrury problems, and you may believe that military fortifications against armies and hoards are equally effective against individuals
What, do you think illegal aliens will be flying Stealth bombers and Apache helicopters?
We want a wall to keep out border jumpers and illegal drugs. Your implication was a wall wouldn't work in the modern era. Why not? Like he said, are these migrants going to use catapults and parachutes? Army tanks? What Ramshutu? Why wouldn't a wall work? Are Migrants magic?
I'm out right rejecting the retarded nonsense claim that China's immigration system, the "lack of jihadists and illegals" has anything whatsoever to do with their having built the Great Wall of china.
Could a wall work? Of course: if you spend enough, make it high enough, man it with enough border staff.
To make it work, it's going to cost more money than the cost of the problem you're trying to solve, and anything less than that would defeat the whole purpose. Itlll take time, energy, need to be maintained and unless you spend enough, and spend no effort on the root causes: the instability and problems in Latin America (ironically much of it caused in part by us crucify) are going to just move the problem. There'll just be more visa overstays, or more tunnels, or document forgeries.
It's pretty much a complete waste of money; used to sate idiots like you who want a physical wall because you don't understand how the world works, and have such a naive view of the world you're votes can be trivially bought by such impractical promises.
To make it work, it's going to cost more money than the cost of the problem you're trying to solve, and anything less than that would defeat the whole purpose.
Not allowing drugs to flood the country, protecting our children, and stopping the flooding of ghettos with more and more gang members has no price tag.
Let's ignore that a wall you can afford won't do any of the things you just said, the money you can spend will be better spent doing other things that better and more positively impact people's lives, mainly because you've grotesquely overstated (or overimplied) the problems.
But unfortunately, what you're opposing isn't actually anything that exists in reality. If you want to manufacture a boogeyman that doesn't actually exist, go ahead: but don't pretend it's real.
Sanctuary cities receive over $27 billion each year from the federal government. Cut off the funds to sanctuary cities and there is plenty of money to build a wall.
Pulling $27bn will likely not be enough for any sort of functional wall to actually stop much of anything, and is likely to cause the very types of damage you're trying building the wall to stop.
It kept out the Mongolian hordes and still exists, and is vast, and China has no migrant crisis, all contrary to your claims and your false narrative.
And in order to hold onto your liberal narrative you had to ignore that China's migrant laws...work. The wall, in ancient times, kept out armies, much less its abilities to keep out illegal aliens.
Tell us Ram. That wall around the speakers at the Democratic Convention...what were they for exactly?
Okay, tell us Ram. You have a wall about like the one in Israel, and it's fortified. How do you get yourself and your "dreamer" family over the wall, not get caught, etc etc
Now stop comparing illegal aliens to Mongolian armies at war with the Chinese and visa versa. That's intellectual dishonesty beyond the pale. Also quit portraying it that it wouldn't stop most even if one here and there scaled it and didn't get caught. 500 getting through in a year is doable. Hundreds of thousands or millions is not.
Slow down Moonbeam your heart is going to explode.
The 12 cities with the most illegal immigrants and the federal funding received last fiscal year are: New York ($7.6 billion), Chicago ($5.3 billion), Philadelphia ($590 million), San Francisco ($509 million), Los Angeles ($502 million), Seattle ($284 million), Providence ($235 million), Denver ($227 million), Austin ($207 million), Newark ($207 million), Portland ($174 million), and Minneapolis ($118 million).
Cut off funding to sanctuary cities and a big wall can be built.
Do note Moonbeam's city of San Fran is 4th on the list.
Why you upset Moonbeam ? Do you live continually in a state of aggravation ? With that said what is San Fran doing with the 500 plus million going into the sanctuary city ? Did the money help Kate Steinle ?
Where is the money going and what is it providing for the wetbacks in Moonbeam Land ? You make claim to be from Moonbeam Land so you should as least have some insight on it?
rational thought makes it easy to understand why you voted for and still support a charlatan and clown
So your solution would be that... I voted in the biggest crime family in the history of the United States? Isn't it ironic that the Clinton Foundation suddenly can't get "donations". No thanks. I had no need to see a Monicagate, Chinagate, Whitewater, Haiti fraud, Russian uranium deal, Clinton Foundation dumpster fire again.
Excellent, so you agree you support for a charlatan and a clown.
We have progress!
As for the other stuff; quite honestly you didn't get to a lie count of nearly 300 by honestly and rationally interpreting the evidence and determining the likely explanation. Your a propagandist that repeats lies, dishonesty and fake news from non credible news sources.
While I'm sure you would love what you just said to be true; there is a vast, vast gulf between wanting it to be true, and it being true.
You don't seem to be able to read Wikipedia: it intersects the Chinese border in a few places but is not along the border at any point: or in other words the number of miles of Chinese border at which you'd have to walk further along the border to avoid te wall is 0 miles.
Do you even check your assertions? Or do you just see facts that directly contradict you and simply ignore it?
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence there already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall?
Thinking is not your strong point!
But at least getting a half dozen replies from 3 sock puppet accounts tells me that you're sufficiently triggered!
So what I got from that was that you will be removing the locks from your house and inviting a Mexican family and a possible jihadist to live in your house.
That's probably because you have no ability to critically think in any way shape or form; and because you don't have the ability to think about the problem out side your right wing propoganda and your constructed reality full of lies and distortion.
Im not surprised. To someone who thinks that the Great Wall of china is responsible for how china manages immigration; or that it's on the Chinese border, or quotes a Wikipedia page that shows it's not on the border and says it's on the border; of someone who has lied multiple hundreds of times on everything they say, making shit up must come naturally to you.
That's probably because you have no ability to critically think in any way shape or form; and because you don't have the ability to think about the problem out side your right wing propoganda and your constructed reality full of lies and distortion
Sure we do. That's why I need no "safe space". The left's claim of 50 genders would be a distortion of reality. Migrants flooding the West IS reality.
Nah, you don't have that ability; you've had to repeatedly lie, haven't defended your position with any argument (other than assertions), and your safe space is your sock puppets and your trolling: you can hide away from opposing arguments.
In fact, you hide yourself away like the snowflakes you moan about.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence there already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall?
Thinking is not your strong point!
Answer the question.
But at least getting a half dozen replies from 3 sock puppet accounts tells me that you're sufficiently triggered!
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall?
Thinking is not your strong point!
But at least getting a half dozen replies from 3 sock puppet accounts tells me that you're sufficiently triggered!
You are so intelligent tell me all about what the difference between a wall and a fence are when it is for protecting the borders of a country !!!!!!!!!!!
How about you stop being an intellectually lazy retard, who refuses to defend anything he says, and start actually using logic and reason. I'm not going to do your thinking for you, you have to do that for yourself.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
How about you stop being an intellectually lazy retard, who refuses to defend anything he says, and start actually using logic and reason. I'm not going to do your thinking for you, you have to do that for yourself.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
That's about 20 posts of you throwing random assertions without any support.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
That's 21 posts of you throwing random assertions without any support. Throwing words together and implying you have a point is neither honest nor intelligent.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
That's 22 posts of you throwing random assertions without any support. Throwing words together and implying you have a point is neither honest nor intelligent.
Im still waiting for you to actually provide an argument based on a well reasoned argument.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence in the borsee already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall? Do you not appreciate the issues are not the same? The cost is not the same? The cost/benefit is not the same? Or that The purpose is not the same?
Thats 23 posts so far. You really need to start learning how to construct an argument.
Normally it goes like this:
Facts. Explain what the facts mean and why, draw comparisons, and use logic to draw a specific well thought out conclusions.
People will challenge your logic, to which you can defend your facts and their interpretations
As you're an idiot, you are not able to do that, so you're limited to your trolling; throwing out nonsensical accusations then demanding that people like me disprove an argument you're too lazy to make for yourself.
So now that I've explained how you can make an argument, Im simply just going to count your replies where you just wave your penis at passers by!
Im betting you get to 100 posts of you desperately trying to troll!
There is fences that protect the Political Elite in the US and Britain so why are those fences in place ?
Because the British system is a ruthless hierarchy based on long standing political relationships, money, blood and power. Since that is a corrupt and intellectually backward way of running a society, the people who benefit from it need protection from those it damages.
Illegals crossing a wall or a fence have become unarmed civilians of the country they are invading ?
Armed right wing terrorists should be allowed to murder unarmed children for the crime of hopping over a fence? How can unarmed children invade armed right wing terrorists?
Fences and Walls work for the Elite and they have armed guards but there can't be armed guards on a wall or a fence protecting a nation from illegals entering that nation ?
Fences and Walls work for the Elite and they have armed guards but there can't be armed guards on a wall or a fence protecting a nation from illegals entering that nation ?
Fences and walls work for the elite so we should shoot unarmed kids in the face and call them "invaders"?
Hey, I've got nothing against building a wall to maintain a border. My only issues with it are:
1) I'd rather not break the bank doing it,
2) I really think our economy is going to feel the pain from not having that cheap labor willing to do the crap jobs most of us don't want to, and
3) I hate when people act like d!cks to people less well off than themselves.
But you want a wall, build your stupid wall. Better find a smart way to get it done though, and practice your surprised face for when we find out they're easily beating it.
Boston Boy should the borders be wide open and America just let 100's of million into to the country ? When that twisted ideology of the Left does not work then who are you on the Left going to blame for another Leftist failure ?
I would like to see your comments on Obama spending like there is a magic money tree. If you could provide those comments with links, I'd love to see them.
Yes Mexicans are people, good job you realized that. Just Because their Mexican does not give them a right to take the jobs you work at, doesn't mean the can just waltz over to America because they can!! People worked very hard to get America free and we are not just going to let it go down burning. So sorry if we want to erase the threat to this country.
Oh i'm getting it now one can have fences around their homes and locks on ones door but you can't have a fence or a wall to protect a nation ! You Leftist are insane !!!!!
Anyone who comes in my home uninvited I got a problem with. But if they want to cross a border that's their business. They are committing no crime in my book and I have no beef with them. I don't give a damn about nations I care about people.
Illegal implies a crime has been committed. Crossing a border does not commit a crime for me. My nation is something I share with other people, I don't own it.
Bronto, will you please stop upvoting your own shitposts? You are pulling views away from people who genuinely have interesting and intelligent things to say.
Do you know what the word fence means? Do you know that a wall is different from a fence? Do you know there are already large sections of fence there already? Do you not appreciate a fence a few km in length is not the same as a thousand mile long wall?
Thinking is not your strong point!
But at least getting a half dozen replies from 3 sock puppet accounts tells me that you're sufficiently triggered!
You haven't even made an argument yet; you and your sock puppets just assert a bunch of stuff and pretend it's an argument.
If you were intelligent or cogent enough to make an argument we'd be abl to talk about it.
Yeah, I've hit a nerve; you went full out attack with all your accounts over multiple posts, which is only something you do when someone makes you angry.
He is the president of the United States and I would really appreciate if you respected that. It doesn't matter if you voted for him or if you agree with him or not. He is running America and the least you could do is respect that. I bet if you had to run America you would go running with your tail beetween your legs.
The question is not if The Executive officer should build a wall. It has been built already. The question is will this Executive officer defend, preserve, and protect the United States Constitution from any possible illegal conduct by which the wall has been construction has been started.
A canal has legal merits as a public necessity on all levels from State to international. A fence/Wall just does not provide adequate legal stability.
Regardless of your immigration views, the only thing you would need to get past that wall is a ladder. How could this be practically to control immigration? It isn't.
If you really want to stop illegal immigration, crack down on the corporations that keep hiring them for pennies. Then, and only then will you see the illegal immigration population diminish.
To all Conservatives: At least if you're going to pass a bunch of bs, please do it right.
If you think Donald Trump is building a wall to keep "terrorist" out then you are wrong. We live in BRAIN WASHED America. Everything that somebody says goes to account to our brains. Donald Trump is building a wall to keep us in. There is a reason why we are called "stupid and educated". The rest of the world doesn't think like us. We have presidents, they have monarchy. We are so brain washed that it doesn't make sense. If you disagree answer this for me.
Why is the color red called red? And you can't say because it is or because it looks red. Its red because all of our life we've been told that its red. What ever somebody says with a higher power we listen and we think that its correct, but the rest of the world is living in REAL freedom.
There is a reason why we are called "stupid and educated". The rest of the world doesn't think like us.
Two out of two.
Why is the color red called red? And you can't say because it is or because it looks red. Its red because all of our life we've been told that its red. What ever somebody says with a higher power we listen and we think that its correct, but the rest of the world is living in REAL freedom.
I wouldn't go quite that far but it is definitely closer to freedom.
It wouldn't accomplish anything significant because no wall would be built with sufficient structure, length and manpower to prevent crossing of all areas by land. Furthermore people can go around, above, by sea, or by underground. There are plenty of other ways to prevent drug trafficking, which should be the primary concern not illegal/undocumented immigration. Sure they have no right to enter USA, but its not like they cause damage proportional to the need to prevent them in any significant measure. There is also evidence for positive aspects of illegal/undocumented immigrants being in USA in terms of the economy.
We aren't all equal. No two things are ever equal. A scrub who makes excuses and lives off the welfare system is equal to a man who fought and clawed his way to success? I don't think so. A green recruit is equal to his commander? No. A player on a team is equal to his coach? No. An illegal alien who is breaking the law is equal to a legal resident who is not breaking the law? No. Is man equal to God? No. Is Earth equal to the sun? No. We are all equal is a catch phrase used by the left to sound right, yet contains no logic or depth. It's a myth. It's the catch phrase that those in power want you to believe so that when they turn the country into a socialist hellhole, they can point to equality as the reason they are rationing food and medicine.
We aren't all equal. No two things are ever equal. A scrub who makes excuses and lives off the welfare system is equal to a man who fought and clawed his way to success? I don't think so.
You are confusing the state of not being the same with the state of not being equal. Just because things are not the same does not necessarily mean they are not equal (e.g. 3+3+3 = 2+5+2). The equality you describe is the result of measuring the "worth" of someone against the "worth" of someone else, and your definition of "worth" is entirely subjective. Your definition of worth is not the same as mine.
Furthermore, because of your permanent state of total ideological indoctrination, you neglected to include in your analogy a comparison between say, a man who has worked 3 jobs his entire life without being hit by any magical bolt of "success", and someone like Paris Hilton, who has done absolutely fuck all in life except be born as the daughter of a billionaire. Your infuriating level of brainwashing always causes you to look for language which reinforces your belief structure and to avoid all that which doesn't as if it were infected with the plague.
a man who has worked 3 jobs his entire life without being hit by any magical bolt of "success", and someone like Paris Hilton, who has done absolutely fuck all in life except be born as the daughter of a billionaire
In your mindless diatribe, all you proved was that Paris Hilton was not equal or of as much worth as a man working 3 jobs which proves your opponent's point.
In your mindless diatribe, all you proved was that Paris Hilton was not equal or of as much worth as a man working 3 jobs which proves your opponent's point.
I proved that you are loading your language to reinforce your own brainwashing, and please will you stop referring to yourself in the third person? Every single member of this website knows that you own the Bronto account, the Negligentt account, and the BellaSmella account. You are fooling nobody you goddamned moron.
Spun Out Rabidhead what does your rant have to do with anything ? Answer a question can you do that ? Tell me why a fence is around Buckingham Palace ? Come on i await your insane response !!!!!!!!
Paris Hilton gets paid millions because she brings in millions to the networks that use her to push their sponsor's products.
Sport stars bring in millions to their organizations and therefore worth millions. This is not rocket science.
Everyone in this nation is paid based on their worth to their employer. Some guy that works three low level jobs could easily be replaced by another, and therefore paid less.
It's all about the job and the talents required to perform that job.
Democrats want to pay people the same regardless their work ethic, ability, or value to a company. This is insanity and will quickly destroy a business's ability to compete.
The valuable employees doing more stressful jobs, who are now getting paid little more than the floor sweepers, will demand more or leave.
As you're a dishonest propagandizing troll, I can happily use your logic and state you're not equal to the OP, and as such you're opinion in this regard can be ignored.
We are not equal other than the fact that we are human beings, we are not all equal. Donald Trump does not believe that we should all be separated he believes that the first thing we need to do as a country is to come together. He believes that we need to build a wall to protect YOU and protect YOUR jobs. He beileves we need to do that because of illegal immigration and you should give him a chance because he is America's President after all.