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It's worth the effort humanity is fucked
Debate Score:27
Arguments:23
Total Votes:32
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Should I accept that no one will listen to me and become a capitalist?

The more I have tried to convince people, or think of ways to change the system the more that I see how little anyone cares and how little I could actually do to change how people think. Pair this with being relatively poor, being called a loser by people with half my IQ because they have more money than me, and being treated like a space alien for trying to be real with people, it makes me want to become the scumbag that society would exonerate and let humanity kill itself for all I care.
Why should I speak the truth and be rewarded with social outcast status when I could just say whatever will get me ahead in life?
Why should I focus on creating something meaningful when I could focus on merely making profit and be uplifted?
Why should I care about the future I will likely never live to see, and that will probably be one where humanity goes extinct anyway regardless of what I do, when I could just live for myself?
I will never be a capitalist ideologically, but I am seriously conflicted as to whether or not I should conduct myself like one.

It's worth the effort

Side Score: 11
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humanity is fucked

Side Score: 16

Should I accept that no one will listen to me and become a capitalist?

Yes.

Side: It's worth the effort
1 point

HAY It's worth your the effort to explain the wealth of Jeff Bezos ! Now can you do that is the question ??????????

Jeff Bezos/Net worth

149.7 billion USD

2019

Why is a DEMORAT that wealthy ???????????????????????

Side: It's worth the effort
0 points

I see how little anyone cares and how little I could actually do to change how people think.

Hello hater:

Nahhh.. People CARE about Communism.. They fucking HATE it... People CARE about liars.. They fucking HATE them.. People CARE about people who make up science.. They fucking HATE them..

Die, motherfucker, DIE!!

excon, Jewish Prince

Side: It's worth the effort
Ctrlaltdel(87) Disputed
1 point

See what I mean, the fact is there are more people like you who want me to die for being better than you than there are rational people who care about humanity like I do.

The way I see it, I would be better off taking your money than trying to reason with you.

Side: humanity is fucked
outlaw60(15375) Disputed
1 point

Jeff Bezos/Net worth

149.7 billion USD

2019

The fact is there are more people like you who want me to die for being better than you than there are rational people who care about humanity like I do.

Is that the MOTTO of the owner of the WASHINGTON COMPOST ?????????????

Side: It's worth the effort
Mingiwuwu(1446) Clarified
1 point

Side: It's worth the effort
1 point

People CARE about liars.. They fucking HATE them

Excon, you are one of the biggest liars ever to log onto the internet. You lie in a deliberate effort to goad and annoy those very people who use reason to debunk your arguments. When you lose a debate you stick your fingers in your ears and abuse the other person because you're an obnoxious child.

Fact Machine doesn't lie. You do.

Side: humanity is fucked
1 point

Excon, you are one of the biggest liars ever to log onto the internet

Perhaps, or perhaps not, but we all know you cannot be caught at your lying pace of Mach 5. How many Gs are you pulling now...

Side: It's worth the effort
1 point

Nahhh.. People CARE about Communism

Yes. It's a dumpster fire on top of an atomic blast, covered with whipped cream made from hamster shit.

Side: humanity is fucked
outlaw60(15375) Disputed
1 point

What a great statement from a BUSINESS INDIVIDUAL in SEATTLE !!!!!!!!

Nahhh.. People CARE about Communism.. They fucking HATE it... People CARE about liars.. They fucking HATE them.. People CARE about people who make up science.. They fucking HATE them..

Die, motherfucker, DIE!!

excon, Jewish Prince

SUPER STUPID you are a bit conflicted and a LIAR as WELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: humanity is fucked
2 points

The more I have tried to convince people, or think of ways to change the system

There are co-operatives that exist, so if you want to own a piece of where you work you can join one (e.g The Co-operative Group). You could also save some money and create your own co-operative. Leading by example is the only way to lead; "Demonstrate, do not explicate".

Pair this with being relatively poor

This is hard pill to swallow, but you should sort your own life out before you save others. You should be capable of solving smaller problems (your financial situation) before you move onto bigger ones (the fate of 7Bn people). As you solve smaller problems your field of competency will increase and eventually you may even have the competence to change the world.

Why should I focus on creating something meaningful when I could focus on merely making profit and be uplifted?

There's no reason that you can't figure out a way to do both. Do something meaningful that can be monetized. There are lots of problems and tasks to be done in the world that would make things better and people are generally willing to pay for things that make their lives better. For example, if you got a job as a street cleaner you are actually helping people by making sure we don't all live in a mound of rubbish. Now, I'm sure such a job is far below your station but there is something fitting out there that you personally can do.

humanity goes extinct anyway regardless of what I do

I wouldn't worry about that, historically it's usually the thing we aren't worried about that gets us.

Side: humanity is fucked
1 point

I could just say whatever will get me ahead in life?

I think you should try it for six months or a year and see how it works out for you.

Side: humanity is fucked
Ctrlaltdel(87) Disputed
1 point

I think you should try it for six months or a year and see how it works out for you.

I'm going to get my Littlefinger on in this bitch.

Side: It's worth the effort
outlaw60(15375) Disputed
1 point

Troll want might you put your LITTLEFINGER on being you LEFTIST are the GENDER CONFUSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND bathroom issues cause you some CONFUSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: humanity is fucked
Amarel(5551) Clarified
1 point

Why model Littlefinger who was executed? Bronn came out ok in the end.

Either way, how better off do you expect to be in 6 months? In a year?

Side: It's worth the effort